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#101
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I don't see the point of including smoking. Unless it was an ancient Dalish recipe that sends you into an unstoppable berserk rage or something.

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AppealToReason wrote...

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Drinking should blur the screen and cause a control delay. Smoking should reduce health and stamina and be considered a permanent injury. Attempting to stop either should also cause an injury (withdrawal).

OK, surgeon general.:P
Well I think they should have benefits as well.  Like metal gear smoking should give the ability to make your hands steady (make archers miss less).

Alcohol should make your characters immune to fear and be able to take more punishment.


"... hey! You! High dragon! Yeah you! You ain't so tough (burp) lookin'! bet I could beatcha without any clothes on, tough guy!"

Oghren, is that you? :?

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In before some hippocrite finds it offensive to smoke and drink in a video game but finds it completely ok to murder people ;)

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SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

In before some hippocrite finds it offensive to smoke and drink in a video game but finds it completely ok to murder people ;)


It's a bit late to do that when a thread is already 5 pages in.  If it's not.  Then obviously your hypocrites aren't in a big number.

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Wulfram wrote...

I don't see the point of including smoking. Unless it was an ancient Dalish recipe that sends you into an unstoppable berserk rage or something.


Smoking is awesome and cool. Not being sarcastic.

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Wulfram wrote...

I don't see the point of including smoking. Unless it was an ancient Dalish recipe that sends you into an unstoppable berserk rage or something.


I had forgotten about that.  In The Stolen Throne both Maric and Loghain are nauseated by the cloying smell of jasmine in the Dalish camp they are taken to.  Loghain sarcastically asks if they are smoking it.  Smoking did exist in Ferelden.  I think a couple of those bald elf dockworkers in DA2 were holding pipes.  Take a moment to imagine what it would have looked like if smoke had been coming out of the pipes.  This is why they were bald.  Maybe the new game will be able to include details like this - I'm hoping for it.

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Magdalena11 wrote...


I had forgotten about that.  In The Stolen Throne both Maric and Loghain are nauseated by the cloying smell of jasmine in the Dalish camp they are taken to.  Loghain sarcastically asks if they are smoking it.  Smoking did exist in Ferelden.  I think a couple of those bald elf dockworkers in DA2 were holding pipes.  Take a moment to imagine what it would have looked like if smoke had been coming out of the pipes.  This is why they were bald.  Maybe the new game will be able to include details like this - I'm hoping for it.


i dont get that part:huh:
"this is why they were bald"
lung cancer has nothing to do with hair. if thats what you meant.

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Nuloen wrote...

Magdalena11 wrote...


I had forgotten about that.  In The Stolen Throne both Maric and Loghain are nauseated by the cloying smell of jasmine in the Dalish camp they are taken to.  Loghain sarcastically asks if they are smoking it.  Smoking did exist in Ferelden.  I think a couple of those bald elf dockworkers in DA2 were holding pipes.  Take a moment to imagine what it would have looked like if smoke had been coming out of the pipes.  This is why they were bald.  Maybe the new game will be able to include details like this - I'm hoping for it.


i dont get that part:huh:
"this is why they were bald"
lung cancer has nothing to do with hair. if thats what you meant.

I don't know if smoking jasmine causes baldness.  What I meant was that if low-res hair came out as horrible as it did think of what smoke would have looked like.

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Aren't people blowing this a tiny bit out of proportions by stating cancer as a reason for why they don't want smoking in the game?

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EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Aren't people blowing this a tiny bit out of proportions by stating cancer as a reason for why they don't want smoking in the game?

Yea its ridiculous to make the claim that murder is ok but smoking is going to far. People need to learn how to seperate fictional immersion and reality

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Magdalena11 wrote...

I don't know if smoking jasmine causes baldness.  What I meant was that if low-res hair came out as horrible as it did think of what smoke would have looked like.


oh erm...:whistle:
sorry

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Sentinel358 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Aren't people blowing this a tiny bit out of proportions by stating cancer as a reason for why they don't want smoking in the game?

Yea its ridiculous to make the claim that murder is ok but smoking is going to far. People need to learn how to seperate fictional immersion and reality


and there already is drug in DA
LYRIUM:wizard:
and deep mushroom:blink:

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Sentinel358 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Aren't people blowing this a tiny bit out of proportions by stating cancer as a reason for why they don't want smoking in the game?

Yea its ridiculous to make the claim that murder is ok but smoking is going to far. People need to learn how to seperate fictional immersion and reality

Exactly. This is the same world in which Hawke miraculousy doesn't catch syphilis, gonorrhea or herpes from banging with Isabela and the BR's prostitutes.

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The Hierophant wrote...

Sentinel358 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Aren't people blowing this a tiny bit out of proportions by stating cancer as a reason for why they don't want smoking in the game?

Yea its ridiculous to make the claim that murder is ok but smoking is going to far. People need to learn how to seperate fictional immersion and reality

Exactly. This is the same world in which Hawke miraculousy doesn't catch syphilis, gonorrhea or herpes from banging with Isabela and the BR's prostitutes.


HEY! Its a world with demons, dragons, weird creatures, dwarves, elves, qunari, magic, ghosts, monsters, etc. which is nice and totally realistic!

Having smoking and drinking in the world is not realistic. Too far fetched to fit the setting. Especially if you aren't immediately getting lung and liver cancer.

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metatheurgist wrote...

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Drinking should blur the screen and cause a control delay. Smoking should reduce health and stamina and be considered a permanent injury. Attempting to stop either should also cause an injury (withdrawal).

That doesn't sound very fun :((((

Imagine your LI starts a convo when you get back to camp with a blurry screen. You have to guess which options to choose, The game blanks out the responses. You have no idea what happens. In the morning you discover you have lost 50 influence and need to buy her gifts to get it back to normal. How is that not fun?! Posted Image



That'd be too easy to circumvent. You could just avoid everything with save/load.

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OperatingWookie wrote...

metatheurgist wrote...

AppealToReason wrote...

metatheurgist wrote...
Drinking should blur the screen and cause a control delay. Smoking should reduce health and stamina and be considered a permanent injury. Attempting to stop either should also cause an injury (withdrawal).

That doesn't sound very fun :((((

Imagine your LI starts a convo when you get back to camp with a blurry screen. You have to guess which options to choose, The game blanks out the responses. You have no idea what happens. In the morning you discover you have lost 50 influence and need to buy her gifts to get it back to normal. How is that not fun?! Posted Image



That'd be too easy to circumvent. You could just avoid everything with save/load.


If you're one of those buttheads sure.

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M25105 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I don't see the point of including smoking. Unless it was an ancient Dalish recipe that sends you into an unstoppable berserk rage or something.


Smoking is awesome and cool. Not being sarcastic.


Juggling is both more awesome and cooler.  They should implement that first.

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Wulfram wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I don't see the point of including smoking. Unless it was an ancient Dalish recipe that sends you into an unstoppable berserk rage or something.


Smoking is awesome and cool. Not being sarcastic.


Juggling is both more awesome and cooler.  They should implement that first.


True story: My dad got into juggling to help him quit smoking.  He's been smoke-free for almost 5 years.

I support juggling in Inquisition. :wizard:

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Sentinel358 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Aren't people blowing this a tiny bit out of proportions by stating cancer as a reason for why they don't want smoking in the game?

Yea its ridiculous to make the claim that murder is ok but smoking is going to far. People need to learn how to seperate fictional immersion and reality


A very good point that I failed to ponder over before I posted earlier a few days ago.  I respectfully recant.

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http://en.wikipedia....tory_of_tobacco

Tobacco was native to North and South America and this area.
Europeans prior to Columbus didn't have it.:innocent:

It could exist in thedas somewhere undiscovered. Or on another continent.

Modifié par Angrywolves, 18 janvier 2014 - 04:58 .


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Angrywolves wrote...

http://en.wikipedia....tory_of_tobacco

Tobacco was native to North and South America and this area.
Europeans prior to Columbus didn't have it.:innocent:

It could exist in thedas somewhere undiscovered. Or on another continent.

Good point but what would he be smoking in the concept art? lol

Modifié par Sentinel358, 18 janvier 2014 - 05:13 .


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Angrywolves wrote...

http://en.wikipedia....tory_of_tobacco

Tobacco was native to North and South America and this area.
Europeans prior to Columbus didn't have it.:innocent:

It could exist in thedas somewhere undiscovered. Or on another continent.

you do not need tobbaco
there are mutch more plants than just tobbaco
please every one do not compare Earth to Ferelden
:pinched::pinched:

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AppealToReason wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

Sentinel358 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Aren't people blowing this a tiny bit out of proportions by stating cancer as a reason for why they don't want smoking in the game?

Yea its ridiculous to make the claim that murder is ok but smoking is going to far. People need to learn how to seperate fictional immersion and reality

Exactly. This is the same world in which Hawke miraculousy doesn't catch syphilis, gonorrhea or herpes from banging with Isabela and the BR's prostitutes.


HEY! Its a world with demons, dragons, weird creatures, dwarves, elves, qunari, magic, ghosts, monsters, etc. which is nice and totally realistic!

Having smoking and drinking in the world is not realistic. Too far fetched to fit the setting. Especially if you aren't immediately getting lung and liver cancer.

if you drink it wont start liver cancer it will just damage it becouse alcohol will transform into vinegar acid and that will harden liver leaving just anorganic material OVER TIME

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Wulfram wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I don't see the point of including smoking. Unless it was an ancient Dalish recipe that sends you into an unstoppable berserk rage or something.


Smoking is awesome and cool. Not being sarcastic.


Juggling is both more awesome and cooler.  They should implement that first.


I'm down juggling a tabacco and alcohol addiction in game. They're both basically like needy significant others that you're playing. BUT YOU'VE GOT TWO OF THEM! Its basically a new romance option so everyone will love it.

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I admit, the citadel DLC has made me want a "drunk party" again with your companions. It was a nice way to have fun instead of always serious. I don't see why a character can't smoke but it seems more of a companion thing, much like Ogrhens drunkeness.