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[Creator Limbs]

The Raptor isn't bad? Have you been drinking today...?

[didacuscarr]

That's right, it's terrible.

[Striker93175]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

F the Raptor.

Because it needed to be said.

Ahh yes, I've been waiting for a comment like this to bust this one out!

Argument invalid!  Raptor is OP!

Modifié par Striker93175, 15 janvier 2014 - 03:46 .

[Miniditka77]

Raptor is one of the group of guns that are borderline awesome if you have some sort of firing macro or an autofire controller.  Its potential is great, but most people (esp. on console) will never realize its potential.

[Jamesui]

Dovakiin-TheSlayer wrote...
Also incisor. Never used that gun.

Incisor with Incendiary or preferably warp rounds on a weapon-spec Turian Sentinel with one of those stability single-use modules you'll never use otherwise is beastly. Becomes very easy if your am is decent to blast through the gate and down shielded anything in one or two bursts with a little headshot discipline. Also, so fun.

[Dovakiin_N7]

prostheticlimbs wrote...

The Raptor isn't bad? Have you been drinking today...?

Let me put it this way. I wont use it if there were no challenges. Why use anything if you have BW, Widow, Kishock ,  Valiant or Javelin. If nothing you have Mantis. You could still carry Raptor in Gold.

[Supreme Leech]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I definitely consider the Raptor to be in the wrong category as an Uncommon SR. It should switch places with the Mantis, as it is probably one of the 3 least effective guns in the game.

I wish I had advice on what kit could make good use of it, but other than picking a weapons platform, and loading up on passives, I can't think of anything.

I don't know why people dislike the raptor so much. It's miles better than the viper, incisor or mantis. It's not an absolutely terrible weapon. It's very powerful on gold, not very effective on platinum though. I used to use it on a couple of infiltrators. With the right character, appropriate build, appropriate weapon mods and appropriate consumables, it's not terrible.

[Grim68]

If you're using the guns just to get the challenges out of the way, do it with a Sabotage kit (QFI, for example).

Solo Silver - Shoot stuff with the Raptor (don't have to kill it) -> Sabotage -> Let Backfire do its work -> full kill points go to the last thing to hit the enemy (in this case, the Raptor) -> Achieve Challenge -> Throw Raptor out the air lock.

[Tonymac]

The raptor challenge was some BS. Its nearly as insulting as using the M8 Avenger. "Deadly on full auto" is STILL the running joke.

After a game or two on the Raptor, you needed to put and bandaid on the stump where your forearm used to be - wait a few days for it to grow back.

[billpickles]

I just did Raptor for the second time to work on Outsider and didn't find it too bad, actually. I used it on the QFI and topped the scoreboard several times. Sabotage to set 'em up for headshots. I played all matches against Cerberus, since I find it to be the QFI's best enemy faction.

As for other gun/kit recommended combos for some of the less user-friendly snipers:

Incisor = Turian Sentinel
Stability boosts in passives help keep all shots on target and Overload freezes targets in place.

Kishock = Asari Vanguard
I find this gun challenging, so Stasis is what makes it work for me. I play the AV as more of a biotic soldier. I use Charge primarily only for emergency shield recovery and primarily roll with Stasis and Lift Grenades.

Javelin = Cabal
Wallhax glitch to see enemies far away even without scoping. Stack piercing mods with Drill ammo and fire through multiple walls at helpless enemies. Biotic Focus is the perfect Reload Cancel, spam it liberally.

Collector SR = Collector Adept
Collector weapon bonus and just to have as much kit variety as possible while working on sniper rifles.

All others = Salarian Infiltrator
My go-to sniper kit. For Viper, you could make a sound argument that a Marksman would be better. ROF is my one gripe with that gun.

[EP3nquin]

XFG-65 wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I definitely consider the Raptor to be in the wrong category as an Uncommon SR. It should switch places with the Mantis, as it is probably one of the 3 least effective guns in the game.

I wish I had advice on what kit could make good use of it, but other than picking a weapons platform, and loading up on passives, I can't think of anything.

I don't know why people dislike the raptor so much. It's miles better than the viper, incisor or mantis. It's not an absolutely terrible weapon. It's very powerful on gold, not very effective on platinum though. I used to use it on a couple of infiltrators. With the right character, appropriate build, appropriate weapon mods and appropriate consumables, it's not terrible.

While I like the Gun it is kind of under Powered, I think that is why people hate it so much. 

[megabeast37215]

Even on a GI it's bad.. I mean like, awful bad. Even the Hornet is better.. and I was just doing both those challenges last night for Outsider Mastery. So much effort for so little return.

[billpickles]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Even on a GI it's bad.. I mean like, awful bad. Even the Hornet is better.. and I was just doing both those challenges last night for Outsider Mastery. So much effort for so little return.

No way...NOTHING is worse than the Hornet.  I was trying to do that one also and gave up for the time being.  I basically have to put it on a class that doesn't really "need" guns in order to effectively get through matches with it.

I check my status in the challenges menu and I'm always shocked at how LOW the percentage gain is after each match.  Using it on the Drelldept right now and even when I top the scoreboard I guess nearly all the work is being done by Reave.  Can't imagine what it would be like to rely solely on the Hornet to do damage...that thing sucks!

[GriM_AoD]

Raptor... is pretty damn bad...

A way to have some fun with the GPSMG
Stick it on a Hsol with with both mag upgrades and AP ammo, amp it up and kill everything with continuous fire ;D (no conc shot, as you don't want to wind up the GPSMG too much, if at all in combat.. frags will be the close quarters panic button / group stagger). Great on gold, and doesn't perform as bad as I thought it would on plat.


Incisor
Great weapon, no need for any special kit, stick it on any sniper infiltrator and kill all the things. Stability is not a necessity, but I suppose you cold use some in the armour slot to help if you need it.


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Modifié par GriM_AoD, 15 janvier 2014 - 07:12 .

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

GriM_AoD wrote...

Raptor... is pretty damn bad...

A way to have some fun with the GPSMG
Stick it on a Hsol with with both mag upgrades and AP ammo, amp it up and kill everything with continuous fire ;D (no conc shot, as you don't want to wind up the GPSMG too much, if at all in combat.. frags will be the close quarters panic button / group stagger). Great on gold, and doesn't perform as bad as I thought it would on plat.


Incisor
Great weapon, no need for any special kit, stick it on any sniper infiltrator and kill all the things. Stability is not a necessity, but I suppose you cold use some in the armour slot to help if you need it.


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I quite like the Incisor, as rarely as I use it.

But dat GPSMG...

I was very relieved when I finished that challenge. Ick.

[Argent Xero]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I definitely consider the Raptor to be in the wrong category as an Uncommon SR. It should switch places with the Mantis, as it is probably one of the 3 least effective guns in the game.

I wish I had advice on what kit could make good use of it, but other than picking a weapons platform, and loading up on passives, I can't think of anything.

The DI is a pretty good kit to use the Raptor on, I found it to be very effective on him even on Platinum.

just stack piercing mods and use Incendiary ammo.

he has natural high weapon damage passives and a universal debuff from recon mine, which can be detonated for a stagger in a wide radius.

I use a Hurricane sidearm since scoping in on a Banshee right in front of me can be annoying. Guerilla upgrade is the most ideal gear for him to use.

[ClydeInTheShell]

The Raptor is great.

...in the hands of a Nemesis after you've just been shield-gated.

Beyond that, no the Raptor isn't bad.

Putrid is more accurate, and even that is too much credit.

[The-Fantasm]

Pint and Biggs made me use it before. Never again.

[Tyrant112580]

prostheticlimbs wrote...

The Raptor isn't bad? Have you been drinking today...?

What, since when is drinking copious amounts of alcohol a bad thing?

[Silvershroud]

Dovakiin-TheSlayer wrote... I used to press Shift to bring up the power wheel.

I did that once yesterday for some reason.  I spent the rest of the day wondering what was wrong with me...

Like others have said, I'd recommend using a Turian for the GPSMG, and something with a stagger for the Raptor.

Modifié par Count Silvershroud, 15 janvier 2014 - 08:18 .

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

ArgentN7 wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I definitely consider the Raptor to be in the wrong category as an Uncommon SR. It should switch places with the Mantis, as it is probably one of the 3 least effective guns in the game.

I wish I had advice on what kit could make good use of it, but other than picking a weapons platform, and loading up on passives, I can't think of anything.

The DI is a pretty good kit to use the Raptor on, I found it to be very effective on him even on Platinum.

just stack piercing mods and use Incendiary ammo.

he has natural high weapon damage passives and a universal debuff from recon mine, which can be detonated for a stagger in a wide radius.

I use a Hurricane sidearm since scoping in on a Banshee right in front of me can be annoying. Guerilla upgrade is the most ideal gear for him to use.

I couldn't do that to my beloved Drell Assassin! HE DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER! 

[tjbearpig]

Mattock with a scope is a better Raptor than the Raptor.

Argus with a scope is a better Incisor than the Incisor. >.>

[Stanry Roo]

The Raptor makes a better paper weight and baseball bat.

[Argent Xero]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

ArgentN7 wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I definitely consider the Raptor to be in the wrong category as an Uncommon SR. It should switch places with the Mantis, as it is probably one of the 3 least effective guns in the game.

I wish I had advice on what kit could make good use of it, but other than picking a weapons platform, and loading up on passives, I can't think of anything.

The DI is a pretty good kit to use the Raptor on, I found it to be very effective on him even on Platinum.

just stack piercing mods and use Incendiary ammo.

he has natural high weapon damage passives and a universal debuff from recon mine, which can be detonated for a stagger in a wide radius.

I use a Hurricane sidearm since scoping in on a Banshee right in front of me can be annoying. Guerilla upgrade is the most ideal gear for him to use.

I couldn't do that to my beloved Drell Assassin! HE DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER! 

I try to not repeat weapons, like using the Black Widow on everything would be boring.


I tried the CSR, but the scope was too annoying and it has limited range. plus the elbow glitch was weird. I found that I could accomplish the same thing with the Raptor, while having a much better cooldown.