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[PsychoticBiotic]

I've tried making that gun work many times. But even on the OP kits it still sucks.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

ArgentN7 wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...
I couldn't do that to my beloved Drell Assassin! HE DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER! 

I try to not repeat weapons, like using the Black Widow on everything would be boring.


I tried the CSR, but the scope was too annoying and it has limited range. plus the elbow glitch was weird. I found that I could accomplish the same thing with the Raptor, while having a much better cooldown.

I love the CSR on my Salarian Infiltrator. Energy Drain sets up small groups of mooks nicely for quick CSR headshots to finish them off.

On the DAI, I do love the Black Widow, now that I have it levelled up a bit (used to use the Widow on him, which I loved, too.)

I tend to play the Assassin for pure sniping fun, though. I barely ever even detonate Recon Mine. I just leave it up there until the team has killed everything. Sometimes I'll set it off to finish off the last few mooks, but usually, I just fire away with my SR (which is pretty much always the BW these days.)

[megabeast37215]

MasterReefa wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Even on a GI it's bad.. I mean like, awful bad. Even the Hornet is better.. and I was just doing both those challenges last night for Outsider Mastery. So much effort for so little return.

The Hornet GI is good, that's if you can aim.

20 headshots by wave 3 babby... Thanks to Barrage upgrade and the stabilization mod on the weapon. Zero kick and a pretty tight spread.. headshotting at medium range was no problem. Much MUCH better than the Raptor.

[megabeast37215]

ArgentN7 wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

ArgentN7 wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I definitely consider the Raptor to be in the wrong category as an Uncommon SR. It should switch places with the Mantis, as it is probably one of the 3 least effective guns in the game.

I wish I had advice on what kit could make good use of it, but other than picking a weapons platform, and loading up on passives, I can't think of anything.

The DI is a pretty good kit to use the Raptor on, I found it to be very effective on him even on Platinum.

just stack piercing mods and use Incendiary ammo.

he has natural high weapon damage passives and a universal debuff from recon mine, which can be detonated for a stagger in a wide radius.

I use a Hurricane sidearm since scoping in on a Banshee right in front of me can be annoying. Guerilla upgrade is the most ideal gear for him to use.

I couldn't do that to my beloved Drell Assassin! HE DESERVES SO MUCH BETTER! 

I try to not repeat weapons, like using the Black Widow on everything would be boring.


I tried the CSR, but the scope was too annoying and it has limited range. plus the elbow glitch was weird. I found that I could accomplish the same thing with the Raptor, while having a much better cooldown.

The Indra is dominant on him.. and light enough to carry a proper sidearm for Phantoms.

[hostaman]

If you enjoy the Raptor, good for you, but I haven't touched it since the SR challenge.

The Valiant is a better bet in most situations or even better the Incisor, although it's best used on a character with inate stability such as a TGI. Thats how I run mine. Very good against Geth. I'll admit not as good as the BW but a fun alternative if you want a light SR so you can max powers. Aim for the chest to get head shots.

[hellman77]

Dovakiin-TheSlayer wrote...

hellman77 wrote...

Dovakiin-TheSlayer wrote...

jrob6 wrote...

You're right; it's not bad. It's horrendous.

GPSMG too? I also did not like it much.

I really enjoy using the GPSMG with the GE, tons of fun...

kalence.drupalgardens.com/me3-builder#35!4406525!!..M54364!GF9A.9

I'll usually run Cyclonics in the armor slot.

The Indra is also Spectaular on this kit, just replace SMG with Sniper Amp and Operative Package in the Gear slot.

Another setup for the GPSMG is the Destroyer specced for accuracy and RoF with Ext Mag/Heat Sink/AP rounds. Also a lot of fun.

Edit: The destroyer setup works best if you spec into Hydra missiles, and bring something like the scorpion/venom as a Phantom-dispatcher.

Why Expert package? With even SMG package you get 200% recharge. Indra is great on everyone unlike BW, but unfortunately I already completed the challenge.

LOL:lol:

You're right, force of habit I guess...... always 12+12 over 15 additive.

[hellman77]

Dovakiin-TheSlayer wrote...

stealth_202 wrote...

Dovakiin-TheSlayer wrote...

stealth_202 wrote...

GI or DI are best for weapon challenges.
It's not hard to topscore with Raptor on Gold.

Confession. There is so much GI praise here that he scares me. I was pretty pathetic when I started playing ME multiplayer. It was my first ever online gaming try. So when I started, I used to press Shift to bring up the power wheel. LOL. After 1200 hours I am much better and can Pug Gold with most classes. My points and N7 ranking would mean people expect me to top score with huge margin if I play GI. And I am not sure I can. Same goes with other popular kits such as TGI and AIU or Kronguard. Silver bores me. And not willing to solo after i got that lone wolf.

If you don't like Infiltrators, try TSol or Destroyer.

Oh I do. My absolute fav are Huntress (for farming platinum along with Collector adept), QFI and Shadow. Also Drell Assassin. Any suggestions on them? Soldiers are actually my least fav.

For weapon challenges or general builds? If builds, I'll give my two cents even if my credibility is jeopardized....

kalence.drupalgardens.com/me3-builder#59!4802515!!13O54314!5FEA5S

This is one of my strongest kits, but I don't use him that much anymore as he turns the game into extreme easy mode.
Hurrican and/or Harrier, Raider, Wraith, Talon, or anything with high Rof or burst damage.
SR setups are good as well, but rushing spawns to wreak havoc is just too much fun.

[OMGsideboob]

The Raptor is pretty good if you like semi-auto tools of destruction. I can use it for a game, then my trigger finger gets really freakin tired.

For gold i would recommend Damage and Ammo V, Sniper Amp 3 and Incendiary/AP or Warp 3 or 4. Should work just fine then IMHO.

Modifié par OMGsideboob, 16 janvier 2014 - 12:25 .

[stealth_202]

Recorded a video showing scrubby Platinum gameplay with Raptor.
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[peddroelm]

always had a soft spot for Raptor ..

[Tonymac]

stealth_202 wrote...

Recorded a video showing scrubby Platinum gameplay with Raptor.
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Now that made me laugh and cry at the same time.  Good work.

[Credit2team]

if you don't mind the arthritis/CT that comes with it

[LemurFromTheId]

For those who don't know: Raptor has minimum refire time set to 0.15, so its actual ROF is 400 and it doesn't benefit from ROF bonuses. Definitely less than ideal choice if you have Hunter Mode, Marksman or Devastator Mode. Not that it's a good choice on any other kit either...

[EP3nquin]

Wow never knew there was so much hate for the raptor.

[Dovakiin_N7]

Ran GE again yesterday. Geth/Daggar Hazard/Gold. Did pretty well. We were only 3 and extracted without consuming a medigel. Only difference I made that I leveled up to 20 from 19 and used Disruptor instead of Cryo .

Finished tad behind a BW yeilding DAI.. so yeah Raptor OK.

[Dovakiin_N7]

stealth_202 wrote...

Recorded a video showing scrubby Platinum gameplay with Raptor.
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Interesting Build. I should try this. Always thought most people skip out on fitness because Stiumulant pack.

[OniGanon]

People dislike the Raptor because they can't (or just really don't want to) click at 400RPM or because they're slaves to the OP 1000+ DPS weapons. It's not even close to the worst weapon in the game. It's somewhere around the halfway mark, still better than much of the non-UR pistols, SMGs and ARs.

The Raptor is a decent enough weapon for its rarity, essentially the semi auto version of the Indra, with 700ish DPS, decent accuracy, light weight, low hipfire penalty and a very nice low magnification scope. Seriously I love that scope. A damage buff of around 10-20% would have made it perfect, but oh well. Note that ROF increases aren't useful for the Raptor, as it has a Minimum Refire Time. I'd recommend using it on the QFI or SI for the hefty TC damage boost along with ED/Backfire damage.


As for the Incisor, I reckon the Turian Sentinel is the best user of the gun with his stability/damage passives, Overload shield stripping and Warp to weaken Armor. Turian Havoc with his Cryo debuff might work well. And of course the sniper Infiltrators.

Modifié par OniGanon, 16 janvier 2014 - 04:14 .

[DaryAlexV]

DI.

[robarcool]

OniGanon wrote...

People dislike the Raptor because they can't (or just really don't want to) click at 400RPM or because they're slaves to the OP 1000+ DPS weapons. It's not even close to the worst weapon in the game. It's somewhere around the halfway mark, still better than much of the non-UR pistols, SMGs and ARs.

The Raptor is a decent enough weapon for its rarity, essentially the semi auto version of the Indra, with 700ish DPS, decent accuracy, light weight, low hipfire penalty and a very nice low magnification scope. Seriously I love that scope. A damage buff of around 10-20% would have made it perfect, but oh well. Note that ROF increases aren't useful for the Raptor, as it has a Minimum Refire Time. I'd recommend using it on the QFI or SI for the hefty TC damage boost along with ED/Backfire damage.


As for the Incisor, I reckon the Turian Sentinel is the best user of the gun with his stability/damage passives, Overload shield stripping and Warp to weaken Armor. Turian Havoc with his Cryo debuff might work well. And of course the sniper Infiltrators.

Works with Destroyer too. Although, after using it for 3 matches, I didn't want to play anymore (too much clicking).

Modifié par robarcool, 17 janvier 2014 - 07:41 .

[Sinapus]

I've tried the Raptor and completed the challenge twice with it. I don't consider it the worst sniper rifle, since the Incisor is definitely that. The recoil is utterly annoying. The Indra's recoil w/o stability module is actually still useable while with the Incisor I need to use the stability III module to have a chance of controlling the thing.




Edit: A bit more on topic. I consider the Raptor good against mook-level enemies, and not quite as useful against bosses.

Modifié par Sinapus, 17 janvier 2014 - 08:08 .

[Zorinho20_CRO]

robarcool wrote...

-Snip-
Works with Destroyer too. Although, after using it for 3 matches, I didn't want to play anymore (too much clicking).

I don´t bother with such things

[MajorStupidity]

The Raptor might not be overly bad, but the Mattock really beats it in most instances except that the raptor has a scope built in and wieghs less (but both weigh so little that it really doesn't mean much). Mattock does more damage and does not have its RoF capped like the raptor. Not to mention that the Indra is basically a direct upgrade to it (even if it is a UR).

If you can manage to keep up the RoF around 350-400 RPM and pull of repeated headshots it can take out infantry with little difficulty.

Modifié par MajorStupidity, 17 janvier 2014 - 09:05 .

[stealth_202]

Sinapus wrote...

I've tried the Raptor and completed the challenge twice with it. I don't consider it the worst sniper rifle, since the Incisor is definitely that. The recoil is utterly annoying. The Indra's recoil w/o stability module is actually still useable while with the Incisor I need to use the stability III module to have a chance of controlling the thing.

Any Turian kit with full passive and Stability Mod III eliminates recoil for every weapon in game. Unfortunately, it's bugged off-host.

[Argent Xero]

The Raptor is a fine weapon, totally underrated.

[Dovakiin_N7]

I wanted to kill 3 birds in one shot. Raptor challenge, GPSMG challenge and 200 GE waves for Machine challenge. So I been playing GE with raptor and gpsmg. Raptor challenge completed but rest 2 are still a way to go.

Now time to replace raptor with incisor or viper or kishock or krysse. Which one is better with him?

Modifié par Dovakiin-TheSlayer, 17 janvier 2014 - 11:31 .