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[FlyingSquirrel]

This has probably been asked and answered, but if you do the Citadel DLC after the Geth Dreadnought but before Priority: Rannoch, does Legion come to the Citadel?

(I realize it makes zero sense to send the Normandy in for repairs while the geth and quarians are still blasting the crap out of each other, which is why I don't know the answer to this first-hand - I'm just curious.)

[jtav]

No, nothing.

[DeinonSlayer]

Nope. Legion has no Citadel content. Tali doesn't appear in Citadel unless you finish the Rannoch arc first. Miranda doesn't show up unless you beat Horizon first, which sucks because I like to fit Citadel in between Rannoch and Thessia.

[CrutchCricket]

Legion and Kelly were not important enough to be included in Citadel. Mordin's messages come off as an afterthought as well.

What you expected ME2 characters to get more, particularly when they've already grudgingly gained borderline significance? Pfft. Don't you know who your real squad are?

/barf inducing sarcasm.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 15 janvier 2014 - 08:23 .

[CroGamer002]

Bioware had pretty bad priorities so we got nothing from Legion.

[Sovereign330]

Can always count on BSN to take a small flaw and make it look like the reapers flew by and destroyed everything.

[Vortex13]

I would have liked a mention of Legion, especially since Thane got a whole memorial scene.

[dreamgazer]

Sovereign330 wrote...

Can always count on BSN to take a small flaw and make it look like the reapers flew by and destroyed everything.

It's not even much of a flaw, given the Citadel's restrictions on AI and the geth's reputation. 

[Sovereign330]

dreamgazer wrote...

Sovereign330 wrote...

Can always count on BSN to take a small flaw and make it look like the reapers flew by and destroyed everything.

It's not even much of a flaw, given the Citadel's restrictions on AI and the geth's reputation. 

Indeed thats my explanation as well...but for those who deem it a flaw..if, as you say, it even is one, is a very small one if any. nothing's ever good enough around here is my point and it's been that way for longer than most care to admit.

[CroGamer002]

dreamgazer wrote...

Sovereign330 wrote...

Can always count on BSN to take a small flaw and make it look like the reapers flew by and destroyed everything.

It's not even much of a flaw, given the Citadel's restrictions on AI and the geth's reputation. 

So I was imagining EDI whole time in the DLC?

[Kunari801]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Nope. Legion has no Citadel content. Tali doesn't appear in Citadel unless you finish the Rannoch arc first. Miranda doesn't show up unless you beat Horizon first, which sucks because I like to fit Citadel in between Rannoch and Thessia.

I know it's rare, but I like to think of Citadel DLC as post-war where Shepard lived.  

[Sovereign330]

Mesina2 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Sovereign330 wrote...

Can always count on BSN to take a small flaw and make it look like the reapers flew by and destroyed everything.

It's not even much of a flaw, given the Citadel's restrictions on AI and the geth's reputation. 

So I was imagining EDI whole time in the DLC?

Speak to Joker. First time on the Presidium Commons. Your explanation will be waiting for you.

[Br3admax]

Mesina2 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Sovereign330 wrote...

Can always count on BSN to take a small flaw and make it look like the reapers flew by and destroyed everything.

It's not even much of a flaw, given the Citadel's restrictions on AI and the geth's reputation. 

So I was imagining EDI whole time in the DLC?

Nobody knows that EDI is an AI. They think that she's Joker's mobility assistantance mech. 

Modifié par Br3ad, 15 janvier 2014 - 09:04 .

[Helios969]

Sovereign330 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Sovereign330 wrote...

Can always count on BSN to take a small flaw and make it look like the reapers flew by and destroyed everything.

It's not even much of a flaw, given the Citadel's restrictions on AI and the geth's reputation. 

Indeed thats my explanation as well...but for those who deem it a flaw..if, as you say, it even is one, is a very small one if any. nothing's ever good enough around here is my point and it's been that way for longer than most care to admit.

Yeah, it's no big deal, but it might of made for a good chuckle to have Shep, Garrus, and Tali do a little mission impossible skit to sneak Legion into apartment.

[chris2365]

Br3ad wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Sovereign330 wrote...

Can always count on BSN to take a small flaw and make it look like the reapers flew by and destroyed everything.

It's not even much of a flaw, given the Citadel's restrictions on AI and the geth's reputation. 

So I was imagining EDI whole time in the DLC?

Nobody knows that EDI is an AI. They think that she's Joker's mobility assistantance mech. 

Yet they let Legion casually ''unintentionally" infiltrate the Citadel during ME2.

[Sovereign330]

chris2365 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Sovereign330 wrote...

Can always count on BSN to take a small flaw and make it look like the reapers flew by and destroyed everything.

It's not even much of a flaw, given the Citadel's restrictions on AI and the geth's reputation. 

So I was imagining EDI whole time in the DLC?

Nobody knows that EDI is an AI. They think that she's Joker's mobility assistantance mech. 

Yet they let Legion casually ''unintentionally" infiltrate the Citadel during ME2.

1)It was with a spectre and had to be with shep at all times
2)Youll notice that they refer to Legion as a mech at the Csec checkpoint and Anderson even refers to it as a trophy. Likely they saw it as an individual geth platform, who is no more intelligent than a varren.  Might as well be a LOKI mech. However, if they knew it was a gestalt consciousness of over 1000 geth programs (which they did by the time of the reaper invasion), then you probably would have witnessed a bigger stink over the ordeal in me2.

[chris2365]

Sovereign330 wrote...

chris2365 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Sovereign330 wrote...

Can always count on BSN to take a small flaw and make it look like the reapers flew by and destroyed everything.

It's not even much of a flaw, given the Citadel's restrictions on AI and the geth's reputation. 

So I was imagining EDI whole time in the DLC?

Nobody knows that EDI is an AI. They think that she's Joker's mobility assistantance mech. 

Yet they let Legion casually ''unintentionally" infiltrate the Citadel during ME2.

1)It was with a spectre and had to be with shep at all times
2)Youll notice that they refer to Legion as a mech at the Csec checkpoint and Anderson even refers to it as a trophy. Likely they saw it as an individual geth platform, who is no more intelligent than a varren.  Might as well be a LOKI mech. However, if they knew it was a gestalt consciousness of over 1000 geth programs (which they did by the time of the reaper invasion), then you probably would have witnessed a bigger stink over the ordeal in me2.

That's true, but more likely than not those lines from ME2 were forced in just so that you could bring Legion onboard. Not saying they couldn't really have thought that the Geth was dumb, but wether you are a Blue Suns grunt or a Blue Suns boss, you'll still get a welcoming comittee regardless.

[Sovereign330]

chris2365 wrote...

Sovereign330 wrote...

chris2365 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Sovereign330 wrote...

Can always count on BSN to take a small flaw and make it look like the reapers flew by and destroyed everything.

It's not even much of a flaw, given the Citadel's restrictions on AI and the geth's reputation. 

So I was imagining EDI whole time in the DLC?

Nobody knows that EDI is an AI. They think that she's Joker's mobility assistantance mech. 

Yet they let Legion casually ''unintentionally" infiltrate the Citadel during ME2.

1)It was with a spectre and had to be with shep at all times
2)Youll notice that they refer to Legion as a mech at the Csec checkpoint and Anderson even refers to it as a trophy. Likely they saw it as an individual geth platform, who is no more intelligent than a varren.  Might as well be a LOKI mech. However, if they knew it was a gestalt consciousness of over 1000 geth programs (which they did by the time of the reaper invasion), then you probably would have witnessed a bigger stink over the ordeal in me2.

That's true, but more likely than not those lines from ME2 were forced in just so that you could bring Legion onboard. Not saying they couldn't really have thought that the Geth was dumb, but wether you are a Blue Suns grunt or a Blue Suns boss, you'll still get a welcoming comittee regardless.

If that Blue Suns merc (i.e. zaeed with the blue suns tattoo screaming "blue suns!"  from his neck) accompanied anyone other than a spectre...point taken. However, if the individual in question is a spectre (i.e. Shepard), nobody can say squat unless the Council steps in.  C-Sec, the Alliance, and the like may not approve, but they have to let the spectre do what they wish unless the Council says they cant.  Entities outside the Council's jurisdiction (like the Migrant Fleet)...will give you a welcoming committee since they don't answer to the COuncil (see Tali's loyalty mission)

[KaiserShep]

ME2 was a bit of a free-for-all where you could bring Legion. Aside from the Citadel, it should have been totally restricted from entering the quarian flotilla, especially since the only reason you're even there in the first place is because geth have taken control over another ship and killed its crew.

[Sovereign330]

[quote]KaiserShep wrote...

ME2 was a bit of a free-for-all where you could bring Legion. Aside from the Citadel, it should have been totally restricted from entering the quarian flotilla, especially since the only reason you're even there in the first place is because geth have taken control over another ship and killed its crew. [/quote





To be fair if you don't have charm or intimidate, like all "impossible situations", it would play out that way. (that is, no geth allowed, no exceptions) - for the Migrant Fleet mission that is

Modifié par Sovereign330, 15 janvier 2014 - 09:42 .

[Sir DeLoria]

To be honest it was a stupid risk of Shep to take Legion with him off that dead Reaper in the first place. It made no sense, that Legion could be taken anywhere either.

[Sovereign330]

Necanor wrote...

To be honest it was a stupid risk of Shep to take Legion with him off that dead Reaper in the first place. It made no sense, that Legion could be taken anywhere either.

Again under normal circumstances yes...if you think its too risky to activatem give it to Cerberus. But if you do keep it, Shepard is the best person for that geth (Legion) to be with. Like Saren, Shepard can be very charismatic which is why a lot of these situations that wouldnt normally fly, are granted to Shepard as an exception to the rule.

[KaiserShep]

It's not likely that a single platform could pose that much of a risk aboard a warship that's armed with a more sophisticated AI. Plus, there's an armed guard ready to put it down if it flipped out.

[Sovereign330]

There's that too.

[MyChemicalBromance]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Nope. Legion has no Citadel content. Tali doesn't appear in Citadel unless you finish the Rannoch arc first. Miranda doesn't show up unless you beat Horizon first, which sucks because I like to fit Citadel in between Rannoch and Thessia.

What I do is put the main mission and the side quests there, and then save the party as a final thing before the big battle.