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[Lulupab]

I was bored and I did a very long search on the internet to find clues and I don't think anyone else can find more. I left no stone unturned!

Apparently Adam Howden (Anders' voice actor) said he might not work on DA:I but shockingly at jan 9th in a tweet he said he is recording his 1st work of the year:

https://twitter.com/...6915584/photo/1


Its obviously for a game as SIDE is involved, but is it DA:I? If it is indeed for DA:I then it  usually means two things. He is to replace someone as ally/companion/enemy so as a replacement Anders had no role in first playthrough of the game. Usually all replacements and additional things that change based on decisions of previous games are added later. Or he might be involved in a DLC. I predict something like "path of Justice" or "true vengeance" or something. The DLC will be all about Anders/Justice possibily revealing more about him like his real name. Its worth of note that Justice's voice actor Adam Leadbeater is indeed recording for DA:I. He was Justice's voice actor in both DAA and DA2.

An interview with David Gaider: http://swooping-is-b...om/1286233.html

Question: "What effect if any Anders being merged with Justice is going to have on his Calling?"

David Gaider's answer: "Uh...interesting. I'm getting some...okay, it's gone now, I was hearing a mental voice there, it was weird. [laughter] There were some plans to address that but in the end it became very complicated. I think there are a couple possibilities. One is that the spirit within Anders can affect the level of his corruption, so it may delay or remove the necessity for his Calling altogether. Either that or at some point the corruption within Anders is going to corrupt the spirit. I think those are the two most likely outcomes. I'm not going to say which of those we prefer, because Anders can survive DA2 so therefore there's a possibility that we may need him in the future."

David Gaider hints he might appear in future. Take what you will:

http://dgaider.tumbl...tions-on-anders


Amusingly Anders uses the line "There can be no peace" in Act 3 as does Flemeth in the beginning of the DA2. inb4 wild rumors that Anders is flemeth. Nope  but it is interesting, I'm guessing its not mere coincidence.

And that's it. In the end its all speculation, gossip and rumor. Its very complicated really, he might fully appear as a companion(replacement character), simply be an ally or even become an enemy probably depending on choices. Or Justice might take over and again become a companion/ally/enemy he might even become a bid bad boss, maybe something like corypheus. However the chances of  alive Anders appearing is slighty higher than not appearing, emphasize on slightly. Justice however has a very high chance of making an appearance.

Thoughts? If I indeed missed any rumor please enlighten!

Modifié par Rassler, 16 janvier 2014 - 12:28 .

[Veruin]

You're going to die if Anders isn't in Da:I aren't you?

[Naesaki]

Too bad I always kill Anders in my DA II playthrough xD...justice/vengeance could come back in some form, posses another host since its technically a demon now rather than a benevolent spirit.....

but hopefully they respect that, some people will kill Anders, and he won't somehow be magically alive again....but then again he only gets stabbed in the back, Hawke doesn't 100% check he's dead either and who knows how much power Justice/Vengeance actually has.

overall I'm not particularly fussed about Anders

[Lulupab]

Veruin wrote...

You're going to die if Anders isn't in Da:I aren't you?

Not "die". A bit disappointed? sure. There are limitless paths devs/writers can set for Anders. No other character, at least in my opinion, has this much versatility. His complication with both being tainted and possesed. His short story revealing how powerful Justice can be. His possibility of fully losing himself to Justice. The fact that Justice can cure tranquils if he wanted to and knew how (I'm guessing he will do it much better than a desire demon mentioned in asunder). He has commited something very significant in thousand years, destroyed a chantry with magic, its consequences can be very interesting. I'm guessing I missed some stuff but it has to be enough. No other character in DA universe has this much versatility in regard to what might happen to them if they appear in DA:I

Modifié par Rassler, 16 janvier 2014 - 12:29 .

[Naesaki]

I think If Anders did appear in DA:I, I would have an overwhelming urge to kill him again for what he did xD

Grand Cleric Elthina R.I.P

It would be interesting to see what Varric and Cassandra would say to him as well

I mean Varric knew him for 6-7 years and Cassandra hates him since he is one of the main instigators of the current crisis

Modifié par Naesaki, 16 janvier 2014 - 12:28 .

[Angrywolves]

The anders VA might be doing another voice.
Gaider has hinted Anders won't be back, although he did seem to say Justice may return.
I recall he has hinted that and no I don't recall when or where.

I always killed Anders and don't want him back.

[Orian Tabris]

These topics about Anders should just get locked. People get into stupid arguments, or they talk about how they either they hate/d him or troll the thread. There's never any constructive conversations. You might get one constructive argument but no one will talk about it without their stupidity showing.

[Orian Tabris]

Angrywolves wrote...

The anders VA might be doing another voice.
Gaider has hinted Anders won't be back, although he did seem to say Justice may return.
I recall he has hinted that and no I don't recall when or where.

I always killed Anders and don't want him back.

Apparently, the actor said he won't be returning in Inquisition.

Modifié par Orian Tabris, 16 janvier 2014 - 12:31 .

[Lulupab]

Orian Tabris wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

The anders VA might be doing another voice.
Gaider has hinted Anders won't be back, although he did seem to say Justice may return.
I recall he has hinted that and no I don't recall when or where.

I always killed Anders and don't want him back.

Apparnetly, the actor said he won't be returning in Inquisition.

I have decided not to argue with anyone about Anders himself in this thread. Only on speculations of his return. I expect everyone else to do the same. We are not here to judge but to speculate.

Also if I remember correctly Adam Howden previously said he wasn't invited (yet) to the voice acting of DA:I. He didn't imply he declined. He personally likes Anders and have his action fogures (toys) all over his house <3

So this can mean he just received an invitation and started recording.

[Grieving Natashina]

May I get the twitter source that said he wasn't invite to do Inquisition yet?

On topic: I'm not sure if I want to see Anders again, unless he's with my Mage Hawke. I usually keep him alive, but I can't deal with another game of his bipolar anger and angst.

[Naesaki]

I think if Anders was in it again I doubt he'd be as bi-polar, he'd probably be more single minded

Anders : Oh look!!! a mage needs my help!!!! / Oh look!!! a templar!!! you will never hurt another mage again!!!!!

xD

[Steppenwolf]

...this is essentially baseless conjecture. The voice actor who voiced Anders is doing voice acting so you assume it's for Dragon Age for no reason? David Gaider gave thought to the lore of the game and the characters in it? Truly a shocking revelation!

Settle down, dude. There's no good reason to think Anders is going to appear in Inquisition, let alone get his own DLC*.






*and fyi, Justice has no "real" name. he's a spirit. justice is what he is and what his name is.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

I'm pretty sure Anders is dead.

[Angrywolves]

I don't know what people consider "constructive conversations" about such a polarizing character.
I doubt there can be any.

If Anders returns he returns, because Gaider, Laidlaw, Darrah etc etc etc decided he should.If he doesn't it's because they decided he's through.

I don't want him back.I doubt that makes any difference.If others want him back I doubt that would make any difference to Bioware either.

If he was in DAI and I was aware of it I would try to catch him and turn him over to the chantry for execution.

My guess is for others he could become a hero and they would support him and protect him.
More headaches for the saves imports for the next DA game if he is in it and people respond to him differently.

I'm not concerned because I doubt he will be in DAI. But others can believe otherwise if they so choose.:innocent:

Modifié par Angrywolves, 16 janvier 2014 - 01:12 .

[Hurbster]

BasilKarlo wrote...

...this is essentially baseless conjecture. The voice actor who voiced Anders is doing voice acting so you assume it's for Dragon Age for no reason? David Gaider gave thought to the lore of the game and the characters in it? Truly a shocking revelation!

Settle down, dude. There's no good reason to think Anders is going to appear in Inquisition, let alone get his own DLC*.






*and fyi, Justice has no "real" name. he's a spirit. justice is what he is and what his name is.

I call him Dave..... Dave Justice.

But seriously Anders ? No. He'd just get murdahknived to death every time I saw the murdering sod.

[The Hierophant]

So can we take this as good news?

Modifié par The Hierophant, 16 janvier 2014 - 01:47 .

[Lulupab]

I meant Anders name lol. Not Justice's. Anders is his nick name, meaning from Anderfels. We don't know his real name.

Modifié par Rassler, 16 janvier 2014 - 01:18 .

[JoltDealer]

Justice was more than capable of reanimating Kristoff's body. Who's to say he wouldn't survive in a way regardless?

[Steppenwolf]

Who cares what Anders' real name is? What does his name have to do with anything?

[grumpymooselion]

I hope this is nonsense, I killed Anders in every single play through. If he randomly pops up despite such decisions, or if they offer options up at the beginning of DA:I that don't include the option that you killed Anders, I'll have no faith that any action I take has any consequence or meaning within the game universe. I despise everything about Anders, the Divine was the only sensible leadership character in the entire city. The only one I actually wanted to support, the only one I wanted to save.

Anders was lucky to get a quick death.

Modifié par Janan Pacha, 16 janvier 2014 - 02:32 .

[CybAnt1]

Too bad I always kill Anders in my DA II playthrough xD...justice/vengeance could come back in some form, posses another host since its technically a demon now rather than a benevolent spirit.....

Disagree. It's simply a spirit that has been driven by its experience outside the Fade to its own extreme. 

You can have Justice without Vengeance, but Vengeance (which is what it is now) has simply decided this is the only kind of justice worth meting. 

Our modern day law system says justice is not based on revenge, we're not supposed to be under the lex talionis anynore .... but that is a fairly recently evolved view. If you look at the statutes of justice outside a courthouse, you'll see the blind lady holding some scales and a sword.

The sword is a reminder that even today justice can involve some vengeance. 

You don't see Hawke letting a lot of bad guys live, do you? (Well, other than Sister Patrice, but because ... plot.) This is a world where a lot of justice is delivered through vengeance.

So because Justice became Vengeance doesn't mean it's a demon now. But Vengeance (imho) pushed Anders to a lot more extreme actions than Justice did Warden Kristoff's corpse. 

I love the Anders threads. I personally don't care whether he's coming back. And the constant arguments over what he did to the Chantry. All I would say is, in judging that action, you do have to remember he was a man possessed .... literally .... with the Spirit of Vengeance. 

[Nefla]

He better not. Unless I get to kill him again in a more satisfying and brutal way and burn the body this time I don't want Anders or Justice anywhere near the game, especially since both would be potentially retconning death for the SECOND time. >

[Magdalena11]

My F!Hawke ran off into the sunset with Anders and I loved his character in DAA and DA2. I hope his only appearance is as a codex entry. This player wants to play a new game not keep revisiting the old ones.