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[NuclearTech76]

Ferocious Panda wrote...

you should probably mention that if you get around a +45% cooldown, you can time it so that the pylon resupplies right before your cooldown ends. This gives you the maximum amount of grenades, about 4 every 18 seconds.

Taking radius/split homing grenades and using them to set off area tech bursts from the arc grenades is also a viable option.

Try damage on your splits instead of radius. 

Arc nades prime everything in their radius. Split homing will detonate a double tech burst if the two pieces detonate outside of each other's radius. On small maps, particularily Glacier the two pieces or split a lot of the time will be in the same AOE and thus only generate one tech burst instead of two especially if the radius is larger. 

I have to respec mine after messing around with it but I was getting more tech bursts with the smaller radius. It might be at least worth looking at. 

[Magniflyer]

Only female in the Galaxy who gets Cerbies on their knees this easily

[Mighty Omnibutton]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Ferocious Panda wrote...

you should probably mention that if you get around a +45% cooldown, you can time it so that the pylon resupplies right before your cooldown ends. This gives you the maximum amount of grenades, about 4 every 18 seconds.

Taking radius/split homing grenades and using them to set off area tech bursts from the arc grenades is also a viable option.

Try damage on your splits instead of radius. 

Arc nades prime everything in their radius. Split homing will detonate a double tech burst if the two pieces detonate outside of each other's radius. On small maps, particularily Glacier the two pieces or split a lot of the time will be in the same AOE and thus only generate one tech burst instead of two especially if the radius is larger. 

I have to respec mine after messing around with it but I was getting more tech bursts with the smaller radius. It might be at least worth looking at. 

Basically you are saying that if one wants to achieve the double tech burst (I mean the highest chance of double tech burst), he/she must spec arc for wider radius possible, and homing for the smallest possible, right?

Modifié par Mighty Omnibutton, 16 janvier 2014 - 04:20 .

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

I use a Venom on my Demolisher. It takes a little while to get it charged up, but when it goes off, it covers everything

[NuclearTech76]

Mighty Omnibutton wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Ferocious Panda wrote...

you should probably mention that if you get around a +45% cooldown, you can time it so that the pylon resupplies right before your cooldown ends. This gives you the maximum amount of grenades, about 4 every 18 seconds.

Taking radius/split homing grenades and using them to set off area tech bursts from the arc grenades is also a viable option.

Try damage on your splits instead of radius. 

Arc nades prime everything in their radius. Split homing will detonate a double tech burst if the two pieces detonate outside of each other's radius. On small maps, particularily Glacier the two pieces or split a lot of the time will be in the same AOE and thus only generate one tech burst instead of two especially if the radius is larger. 

I have to respec mine after messing around with it but I was getting more tech bursts with the smaller radius. It might be at least worth looking at. 

Basically you are saying that if one wants to achieve the double tech burst (I mean the highest chance of double tech burst), he/she must spec arc for wider radius possible, and homing for the smallest possible, right?

Pretty much. Her arc nade radius is smaller than the Quarians anyways. The good thing is arc hit fast and are easy to throw accurately. Homing take a little longer to reach the target so thing have a little time to split. 

On topic though yes only one combo detonation per piece and those detonators cannot fall without the same AOE or you only get one combo detonation. Both are good options but for me damage was a little better.

[Kel Riever]

FatherOfPearl wrote...

I use a Venom on my Demolisher. It takes a little while to get it charged up, but when it goes off, it covers everything

Really.  The burst effect is astounding.

[ClydeInTheShell]

Kel Riever wrote...

FatherOfPearl wrote...

I use a Venom on my Demolisher. It takes a little while to get it charged up, but when it goes off, it covers everything

Really.  The burst effect is astounding.

You should try her with the Adas. It's staggering, and goes to work as soon as you pull it out.

[PB06]

Magniflyer wrote...

Only female in the Galaxy who gets Cerbies on their knees this easily

They go down as soon as they see Fury.

[dudemacha]

I prefer armor damage on rank 6 for HG on her as she is pretty well set for shield damage and AoE CC as is by arc nades ( 2 benefits of TB ), this way you get more armor damage which is useful on higher difficulties

[dudemacha]

PB06 wrote...

Magniflyer wrote...

Only female in the Galaxy who gets Cerbies on their knees this easily

They go down as soon as they see Fury.

They stand still when they see my asari

[geordiep]

The Demolisher is a grenadier pure and simple... Nothing more.
LOLmolishers specing into things like melee and carrying heavy weapons obviously dont know/care or understand what this character is.
This used to be my favourite character and I would like to point out that the final tier of N7 Demolisher 'power damge +20%' does jack **** except an in menu increase to +65%.
Grenade power does not increase in the menu or in a mission.

The weapon and ammo upgrade is almost irrelevant, as long as a light weapon is used allowing you to deploy the pylon every 9 seconds. Like I said she's a grenadier if you want to play melee/ gunner use a different character.

[NuclearTech76]

geordiep wrote...

The Demolisher is a grenadier pure and simple... Nothing more.
LOLmolishers specing into things like melee and carrying heavy weapons obviously dont know/care or understand what this character is.
This used to be my favourite character and I would like to point out that the final tier of N7 Demolisher 'power damge +20%' does jack **** except an in menu increase to +65%.
Grenade power does not increase in the menu or in a mission.

The weapon and ammo upgrade is almost irrelevant, as long as a light weapon is used allowing you to deploy the pylon every 9 seconds. Like I said she's a grenadier if you want to play melee/ gunner use a different character.

Lulz or we've destroyed the game in every conceivable way and like to have fun with weird ass builds. 

As good as her nades are you need weapons to make her work on Plat or you'll get your ass handed to you.

[megabeast37215]

geordiep wrote...

The Demolisher is a grenadier pure and simple... Nothing more.
LOLmolishers specing into things like melee and carrying heavy weapons obviously dont know/care or understand what this character is.
This used to be my favourite character and I would like to point out that the final tier of N7 Demolisher 'power damge +20%' does jack **** except an in menu increase to +65%.
Grenade power does not increase in the menu or in a mission.

The weapon and ammo upgrade is almost irrelevant, as long as a light weapon is used allowing you to deploy the pylon every 9 seconds. Like I said she's a grenadier if you want to play melee/ gunner use a different character.

Lolno... Saying the Demolisher doesn't need a decent weapon is just stupid. Saying the melee build is bad is also dumb as it hits 3 enemies, has multipliers against defenses, is pretty fast and does brutal damage. 

L2P scrub..

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

geordiep wrote...

The Demolisher is a grenadier pure and simple... Nothing more.
LOLmolishers specing into things like melee and carrying heavy weapons obviously dont know/care or understand what this character is.
This used to be my favourite character and I would like to point out that the final tier of N7 Demolisher 'power damge +20%' does jack **** except an in menu increase to +65%.
Grenade power does not increase in the menu or in a mission.

The weapon and ammo upgrade is almost irrelevant, as long as a light weapon is used allowing you to deploy the pylon every 9 seconds. Like I said she's a grenadier if you want to play melee/ gunner use a different character.

I found this funny.

[ClydeInTheShell]

geordiep wrote...

The Demolisher is a grenadier pure and simple... Nothing more.
LOLmolishers specing into things like melee and carrying heavy weapons obviously dont know/care or understand what this character is.
This used to be my favourite character and I would like to point out that the final tier of N7 Demolisher 'power damge +20%' does jack **** except an in menu increase to +65%.
Grenade power does not increase in the menu or in a mission.

The weapon and ammo upgrade is almost irrelevant, as long as a light weapon is used allowing you to deploy the pylon every 9 seconds. Like I said she's a grenadier if you want to play melee/ gunner use a different character.

You're entitled to your opinion, and it sounds like you're pretty sour on the Demogirl.

In my opinion however.....



...her body of work speaks for itself.

[Ferocious Panda]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Ferocious Panda wrote...

you should probably mention that if you get around a +45% cooldown, you can time it so that the pylon resupplies right before your cooldown ends. This gives you the maximum amount of grenades, about 4 every 18 seconds.

Taking radius/split homing grenades and using them to set off area tech bursts from the arc grenades is also a viable option.

Try damage on your splits instead of radius. 

Arc nades prime everything in their radius. Split homing will detonate a double tech burst if the two pieces detonate outside of each other's radius. On small maps, particularily Glacier the two pieces or split a lot of the time will be in the same AOE and thus only generate one tech burst instead of two especially if the radius is larger. 

help me understand this. Why would the radius damage from HGs  overwrite the tech burst-primed enemy?

[millahnna]

The weapon and ammo upgrade is almost irrelevant, as long as a light weapon is used allowing you to deploy the pylon every 9 seconds. Like I said she's a grenadier if you want to play melee/ gunner use a different character.

Mathematically, that literally gives you fewer grenades than forcing your cooldown to match the recharge speed of pylon (2 every 9 seconds or 4 every 17.14 seconds). I can see but not explain why the 9 second recharge might be good for some players, though. However, she needs a powerful gun on gold and above (Even later waves on silver will challenge a weak gunned demo). There's plenty of light and heavy varieties available that work well with her. Harrier, Venom, Adas, Arc Pistol, HurrDurrcane, Acolyte, Raider, Claymore, GPS, CSMG all work very well and I would assume many others do, as well.

[Argent Xero]

geordiep wrote...

The Demolisher is a grenadier pure and simple... Nothing more.
LOLmolishers specing into things like melee and carrying heavy weapons obviously dont know/care or understand what this character is.
This used to be my favourite character and I would like to point out that the final tier of N7 Demolisher 'power damge +20%' does jack **** except an in menu increase to +65%.
Grenade power does not increase in the menu or in a mission.

The weapon and ammo upgrade is almost irrelevant, as long as a light weapon is used allowing you to deploy the pylon every 9 seconds. Like I said she's a grenadier if you want to play melee/ gunner use a different character.

By this logic, it's like saying Volus are support characters pure and simple.

[Caineghis2500]

ArgentN7 wrote...

geordiep wrote...

The Demolisher is a grenadier pure and simple... Nothing more.
LOLmolishers specing into things like melee and carrying heavy weapons obviously dont know/care or understand what this character is.
This used to be my favourite character and I would like to point out that the final tier of N7 Demolisher 'power damge +20%' does jack **** except an in menu increase to +65%.
Grenade power does not increase in the menu or in a mission.

The weapon and ammo upgrade is almost irrelevant, as long as a light weapon is used allowing you to deploy the pylon every 9 seconds. Like I said she's a grenadier if you want to play melee/ gunner use a different character.

By this logic, it's like saying Volus are support characters pure and simple.

They are:P

[megabeast37215]

Just throwing this out there.. after playing the melee Demogirl a bunch the last few days (thanks to this thread) I can comfortably say the following:

With the following gear: Shotgun Omni-Blade and Strength Enhancer.. you can:

OSK a full shields Nemesis (when rank 5 melee boost is on)
Take out 1/4 of a Gold Prime's armor in one punch
Light melee a Dragoon to death in one combo
Knock Possessed Abominations across the room before they detonate (great for aiming them at other players)
Kill a Gold Phantom, Bomber, Possessed Trooper, etc. after one Arc Grenade Pyros require the light melee combo to finish them, or a little gun fire.
Rack up double melee kills like a bawss...

[Caineghis2500]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Just throwing this out there.. after playing the melee Demogirl a bunch the last few days (thanks to this thread) I can comfortably say the following:

With the following gear: Shotgun Omni-Blade and Strength Enhancer.. you can:

OSK a full shields Nemesis (when rank 5 melee boost is on)
Take out 1/4 of a Gold Prime's armor in one punch
Light melee a Dragoon to death in one combo
Knock Possessed Abominations across the room before they detonate (great for aiming them at other players)
Kill a Gold Phantom, Bomber, Possessed Trooper, etc. after one Arc Grenade Pyros require the light melee combo to finish them, or a little gun fire.
Rack up double melee kills like a bawss...

How will her meelee capabilities fare on platinum. Surely more headknowlledge is required

[Koenig888]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Just throwing this out there.. after playing the melee Demogirl a bunch the last few days (thanks to this thread) I can comfortably say the following:

With the following gear: Shotgun Omni-Blade and Strength Enhancer.. you can:

OSK a full shields Nemesis (when rank 5 melee boost is on)
Take out 1/4 of a Gold Prime's armor in one punch
Light melee a Dragoon to death in one combo
Knock Possessed Abominations across the room before they detonate (great for aiming them at other players)
Kill a Gold Phantom, Bomber, Possessed Trooper, etc. after one Arc Grenade Pyros require the light melee combo to finish them, or a little gun fire.
Rack up double melee kills like a bawss...

Just to add my 2 cents (though I'm sure you already know this) - if you use a chargeable weapon like the Venom, you can charge up the weapon and then melee.  The melee will simultaneously fire the Venom to stagger the enemies.

[Koenig888]

Ferocious Panda wrote...

help me understand this. Why would the radius damage from HGs  overwrite the tech burst-primed enemy?

Assume you have two enemies primed by Arc Grenade.  You then fire a split HG.  If both enemies fall within the AOE of the first HG part, you will get a tech burst on only one enemy.  The second HG part then hit the second enemy.  As the second enemy had fallen within the first HG part's AOE, you will not get a tech burst from the second HG part.  It is similar to how Cluster Grenades work. 

Qualifier - This is theory and I have not tested to verify.

[ClydeInTheShell]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Just throwing this out there.. after playing the melee Demogirl a bunch the last few days (thanks to this thread) I can comfortably say the following:

With the following gear: Shotgun Omni-Blade and Strength Enhancer.. you can:

OSK a full shields Nemesis (when rank 5 melee boost is on)
Take out 1/4 of a Gold Prime's armor in one punch
Light melee a Dragoon to death in one combo
Knock Possessed Abominations across the room before they detonate (great for aiming them at other players)
Kill a Gold Phantom, Bomber, Possessed Trooper, etc. after one Arc Grenade Pyros require the light melee combo to finish them, or a little gun fire.
Rack up double melee kills like a bawss...

I will certainly try this. I've been looking to experiment with a more hands-on approach, and this sounds like something I can use to get up close & personal with the Demo. 

Thanks mega! 

Modifié par ClydeInTheShell, 17 janvier 2014 - 03:43 .

[chcknwng]

Demolisher is Godly.