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[Farci Reprimer]

I dont know if this has been already discussed or if this is the kind of question that has been alrady answered in that Dragon Age world book or something, but I have just been wondering...

Who exactly rules Thedas nations like Nevarra and Anderfels during the events of DAI? Do they have king or queen? And if so, what kind of persons are they? Because rulers of kingdoms and nations are usually more or less the figureheads of their society who everyone follows. Agressive Leaders create agressive goverments and so on.

If we truly wield great military power as inquisitors, we are bound to run into situations where we have to negotiate different things with different nations. And those nations got to have represantives who we get to know very well.
I am talking about for example negotiation tables where rulers of Thedas gather to discuss the future or something.

I hope we can learn in DAI for example who exactly rules Tevinter now. Fenris talked quite a bit about how Magisters are taking power once again and Imperial Chantry, templars and Black divine are going in their shadow.
But how much is this really happening? Do they allready have ruler who is also a mage?
I would love to know.

Modifié par FarciReprimer, 16 janvier 2014 - 08:34 .

[The Elder King]

....the codex states clearly that magisters rule Tevinter, and they elect an Archon as the supreme ruler. And the Black divine isn't losing powers, since he's always a mage. They're all on the same side.
As for Nevarra and the Anderfels, they're both ruled by a king, though in Nevarra the king is usually strong, while in the latter he's a little more than a puppet.

[Iron Star]

The Anderfels is ruled by a king, but according to The World of Thedas, most of the inhabitants considers the First Warden to be the true ruler.

Modifié par Get fired up, 16 janvier 2014 - 12:34 .

[azarhal]

Tevinter is ruled by the magisters and the Archon. That haven't changed. I doubt we are going to have all of their names this time (we meet a few in the previous games).

Nevarra is ruled by Markus Pentaghast, but he's old and apparently sick. Might be totally unimportant with Cassandra in your Inquisition though...

The Anderfels are ruled by a king, but the Grey Wardens are the real power there and there are rumors that the First Warden might be planning a coup to crown himself (I can not see ending well).

[Potato Cat]

I'm really hoping Cassandra helps build up Nevarra's lore. It's probably the country I'm most interested in seeing and learning about.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Didn't Nevarra's king die recently, paving the way for a brewing civil war in Nevarra?

[Hellion Rex]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Didn't Nevarra's king die recently, paving the way for a brewing civil war in Nevarra?

No, he's barely alive though, expected to die at any time. It's hinted that the Mortalitasi are basically running the show through him. Ferdinand Pentaghast is next in line to replace Markus. Maybe it will be a part of Cassandra's companion quest. Good chance to see Nevarra.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Yeah the thing with Nevarra is that the King is old and perhaps senile and has no heir. His opponents accuse him of letting the Mortalitasi of ruling instead. He has a younger brother but he is also old and apparently has no interest in ruling the Kingdom. This makes both the Kingdom's ruling dynasties lining up to replace him and the other noble houses belieiving that both the Penterghasts and the Van Markams have ruled long enough.

[Hellion Rex]

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Yeah the thing with Nevarra is that the King is old and perhaps senile and has no heir. His opponents accuse him of letting the Mortalitasi of ruling instead. He has a younger brother but he is also old and apparently has no interest in ruling the Kingdom. This makes both the Kingdom's ruling dynasties lining up to replace him and the other noble houses belieiving that both the Penterghasts and the Van Markams have ruled long enough.

I wonder where Cassandra fits into all of this.

[The Baconer]

Install Cassandra as heir apparent to Nevarra, or another viable Pentaghast who will follow my instruction > Secure the support of Nevarra and the Mortalitasi in dealing with the Veil tear or other possible conflicts.

[azarhal]

eluvianix wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Yeah the thing with Nevarra is that the King is old and perhaps senile and has no heir. His opponents accuse him of letting the Mortalitasi of ruling instead. He has a younger brother but he is also old and apparently has no interest in ruling the Kingdom. This makes both the Kingdom's ruling dynasties lining up to replace him and the other noble houses belieiving that both the Penterghasts and the Van Markams have ruled long enough.

I wonder where Cassandra fits into all of this.

Somewhere between a rock and a hard place I bet.

[drake heath]

The Tevinter government sounds like it would be very corrupt, like the late Roman Republic or a Byzantine Empire with mages, I hope we get to be involved in it.

Modifié par drake heath, 16 janvier 2014 - 10:17 .

[Asdrubael Vect]

Tevinter Imperium have a Archont as ruler with "Black" Divine as Imperium chantry ruler and government administration-Senat with noble mages, non-mages and some dwarves.

Anderfels is ruled by their King but a real power always have a Grey Wardens with their First Warden

Nevarra ruled by King who are from Pentaghast clan(Cassandra is not from royal family and she was raised in Orlais as Templar/Seeker, so forget about her as Nevarra ruler) and Mortalitasi(who were founded by Tevinter mage)-blood mages that have great cultural and political influence

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 16 janvier 2014 - 11:50 .

[dragonflight288]

eluvianix wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Yeah the thing with Nevarra is that the King is old and perhaps senile and has no heir. His opponents accuse him of letting the Mortalitasi of ruling instead. He has a younger brother but he is also old and apparently has no interest in ruling the Kingdom. This makes both the Kingdom's ruling dynasties lining up to replace him and the other noble houses belieiving that both the Penterghasts and the Van Markams have ruled long enough.

I wonder where Cassandra fits into all of this.

I'm going to be watching Dawn of the Seeker again tonight, because my memories are a little muddled, but doesn't Cassandra have a brother as well?

[Hellion Rex]

dragonflight288 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Yeah the thing with Nevarra is that the King is old and perhaps senile and has no heir. His opponents accuse him of letting the Mortalitasi of ruling instead. He has a younger brother but he is also old and apparently has no interest in ruling the Kingdom. This makes both the Kingdom's ruling dynasties lining up to replace him and the other noble houses belieiving that both the Penterghasts and the Van Markams have ruled long enough.

I wonder where Cassandra fits into all of this.

I'm going to be watching Dawn of the Seeker again tonight, because my memories are a little muddled, but doesn't Cassandra have a brother as well?

I actually just watched it for the first time yesterday. He died because a blood mage wanted his dragon hunting skills.

[azarhal]

Dark Korsar wrote...

Nevarra ruled by King who are from Pentaghast clan(Cassandra is not from royal family and she was raised in Orlais as Templar/Seeker, so forget about her as Nevarra ruler) and Mortalitasi(who were founded by Tevinter mage)-blood mages that have great cultural and political influence

DA2 Collector edition guide has it written black on white that Cassandra is a member of Nevarra royal family. Dawn of the Seeker is quite clear that Cassandra is a member of the Legendary dragon hunting family of Nevarra as well (in both the movie and BioWare featurette on the DVD).

Also, nowhere are the Mortalitasi said to be blood mages. They deal with death and spirit, as in the Entropy and Spirit  schools of magic.

[Gregolian]

The Anderfels has basically become what Dryden tried to do at the Warden's Keep isn't it?

azarhal wrote...

Dark Korsar wrote...

Nevarra ruled by King who are from Pentaghast clan(Cassandra is not from royal family and she was raised in Orlais as Templar/Seeker, so forget about her as Nevarra ruler) and Mortalitasi(who were founded by Tevinter mage)-blood mages that have great cultural and political influence

DA2 Collector edition guide has it written black on white that Cassandra is a member of Nevarra royal family. Dawn of the Seeker is quite clear that Cassandra is a member of the Legendary dragon hunting family of Nevarra as well (in both the movie and BioWare featurette on the DVD).

Also, nowhere are the Mortalitasi said to be blood mages. They deal with death and spirit, as in the Entropy and Spirit  schools of magic.

I believe the books written by Gaider even mention the Pentaghast family several times towards the end of Stolen Throne about how they might have missed one or two dragons and in The Calling when Maric's sword gets a description.

Modifié par Gregolian, 17 janvier 2014 - 01:42 .

[Augustei]

I wouldn't mind finding out the specifics of the rulers of thedas. I know Tevinter is ruled by the Imperial Archon but who are they? whats their name? their politics? What is the name of the royal house of Orlais? who is the First Warden? (Idk why but I imagine him to be a dwarf)

[Viktoria Landers]

Gregolian wrote...

I believe the books written by Gaider even mention the Pentaghast family several times towards the end of Stolen Throne about how they might have missed one or two dragons and in The Calling when Maric's sword gets a description.

I can't recall such reference in TST or TC. 

[Gregolian]

Viktoria Landers wrote...

Gregolian wrote...

I believe the books written by Gaider even mention the Pentaghast family several times towards the end of Stolen Throne about how they might have missed one or two dragons and in The Calling when Maric's sword gets a description.

I can't recall such reference in TST or TC. 

I just finished both in like the last week and I know I saw her family name written at least twice toward the end of one of those two books...  could have been in The Calling given the High Dragon that Duncan, Maric and company have to fight.

[Hellion Rex]

XxDeonxX wrote...

I wouldn't mind finding out the specifics of the rulers of thedas. I know Tevinter is ruled by the Imperial Archon but who are they? whats their name? their politics? What is the name of the royal house of Orlais? who is the First Warden? (Idk why but I imagine him to be a dwarf)

Ok, Archons are the rulers of the TE. The position is usually handed down personally to an apprentice, or another magister. We do not know the name of the current Archon in Tevinter. I don't believe we know the name of Celene's family. The First Warden is the "head" of the Grey Wardens, ruling in Weisshaupt in the Anderfels, and is considered nothing but a figurehead. He is heavily involved in the politics of that region, and I think he is human.

[Augustei]

eluvianix wrote...

XxDeonxX wrote...

I wouldn't mind finding out the specifics of the rulers of thedas. I know Tevinter is ruled by the Imperial Archon but who are they? whats their name? their politics? What is the name of the royal house of Orlais? who is the First Warden? (Idk why but I imagine him to be a dwarf)

Ok, Archons are the rulers of the TE. The position is usually handed down personally to an apprentice, or another magister. We do not know the name of the current Archon in Tevinter. I don't believe we know the name of Celene's family. The First Warden is the "head" of the Grey Wardens, ruling in Weisshaupt in the Anderfels, and is considered nothing but a figurehead. He is heavily involved in the politics of that region, and I think he is human.

Yeah I know all this but i'm curious as to the specifics. Who these people actually are and what their politics are.

[deuce985]

Elfman wrote...

I'm really hoping Cassandra helps build up Nevarra's lore. It's probably the country I'm most interested in seeing and learning about.

Who's to say we won't visit it in DAI or in some DLC?

[Banxey]

XxDeonxX wrote...

I wouldn't mind finding out the specifics of the rulers of thedas. I know Tevinter is ruled by the Imperial Archon but who are they? whats their name? their politics? What is the name of the royal house of Orlais? who is the First Warden? (Idk why but I imagine him to be a dwarf)

It is weird that we never see the name of the royal house of Orlais connected to any information regarding Celene or her uncle Florian. Perhaps they are decendents of Kordillus Drakon. 

[Danny Boy 7]

I remember a long time ago it was mentioned Cassandra was a member of the royal family, but was nowhere near the actual line of succession. Not those exact words, but they did say nowhere near.

As for Celene she isn't a direct heir of Drakon, she was far behind everyone else and then her opponents started to fall off. It's suspected that she had them killed. I'm sure she is still connected to Drakon, but not like a straight line.