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Just how big is the planet that Thedas is on? (Thedap)


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Naesaki wrote...

^That would be an interesting twist with the Qunari, I would quite like to see how that type of thing would unfold


I seem to recall when the Warden asked Sten where the Qunari came from. He said something along the lines of it does not matter. To me that tells me that there is more to it or Sten simply dosen't know.

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

another continent with a "jade empire" feel could be awesome
or a more tropical jungle, mayan or incan inspired continent
maybe even a land completely alien when compared to our world.

So many possibilities.

It's my impression that this is what Par Vollen is like.  According to The World of Thedas and other sources, it's a tropical climate, and the culture of the human population evolved very differently from the mainland.  They built pyramids, which I imagine were pre-Columbian, not Egyptian in style.  Later, the Qunari took over and built their architecture, which apparently includes domed buildings.

I agree with you about the possibilities.

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Killdren88 wrote...

Naesaki wrote...

^That would be an interesting twist with the Qunari, I would quite like to see how that type of thing would unfold


I seem to recall when the Warden asked Sten where the Qunari came from. He said something along the lines of it does not matter. To me that tells me that there is more to it or Sten simply dosen't know.



Its probably safe to assume only the highest levels of authority in the Qun would know of their true origins if they want to keep their so infalable "logic" of the Qun safe so they can "subjugate and convert the world"

The Qun really does annoy me though, you ask them things about their religion and they just go you "You wouldn't understand or they say no"

How do they know we won't understand unless they tell us anything xD

Modifié par Naesaki, 16 janvier 2014 - 04:53 .


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Naesaki wrote...

Killdren88 wrote...

Naesaki wrote...

^That would be an interesting twist with the Qunari, I would quite like to see how that type of thing would unfold


I seem to recall when the Warden asked Sten where the Qunari came from. He said something along the lines of it does not matter. To me that tells me that there is more to it or Sten simply dosen't know.



Its probably safe to assume only the highest levels of authority in the Qun would know of their true origins if they want to keep their so infalable "logic" of the Qun safe so they can "subjugate and convert the world"

The Qun really does annoy me though, you ask them things about their religion and they just go you "You wouldn't understand or they say no"

How do they know we won't understand unless they tell us anything xD


The Reapers in a nutshell..lol..

Anyway, yeah I bet that the Higher ups know. But the Qun would not be as effective if their origins where known.

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What is a planet? You guys are not part of those heretics claiming we live on a round ball are you? Thedas is flat!!!!

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Beerfish wrote...

What is a planet? You guys are not part of those heretics claiming we live on a round ball are you? Thedas is flat!!!!


Chantry lies and propaganda you fool!

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Thedas presumably runs from the antarctic region in the south (Korcari Wilds) to a tropical region in the north (Par Vollen). If you could work out the distance between those two points I assume someone who understood math and geography (unlike me) could provide a rough estimate of the size of the planet.

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

another continent with a "jade empire" feel could be awesome
or a more tropical jungle, mayan or incan inspired continent
maybe even a land completely alien when compared to our world.

So many possibilities.


Roderick Ponce von Fontlebottom visits Thedas looking for the Fountain of Couth.

Or the Black Whirlwind comes wandering by looking for a drink and gets into an epic brawl with Oghren

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It's no moon. And it's too big to be a space station. :D

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Quill74Pen wrote...

Odds are, it's an Earth-size planet, at least if Bioware is going by known scientific standards.

Get much smaller, and the odds of a planet's core solidifying increase, which leads to a loss of a magnetic field, which in turn allows cosmic radiation to strike the surface of a planet unimpeded. Needless to say, that's bad for development of complex life forms.

Get much bigger, and you could wind up with tectonic plates never forming, thus freezing the crust largely into place, preventing the recycling of minerals, metals, water and so on. Mind you, this scale is one that works on the order of tens of millions of years.

Though, in both cases, there could be some magical force that maintains desirable conditions.

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Quill74Pen wrote...
Odds are, it's an Earth-size planet, at least if Bioware is going by known scientific standards.

Pfft. They don't even do scientific standards in their SF games, so what do you expect? Maybe the DA team would do better - they certainly appear to make a better effort in keeping their lore consistent - but I've lost all respect for the ME team in that regard.

Get much smaller, and the odds of a planet's core solidifying increase, which leads to a loss of a magnetic field, which in turn allows cosmic radiation to strike the surface of a planet unimpeded. Needless to say, that's bad for development of complex life forms.

Get much bigger, and you could wind up with tectonic plates never forming, thus freezing the crust largely into place, preventing the recycling of minerals, metals, water and so on. Mind you, this scale is one that works on the order of tens of millions of years.

Not quite correct. A small planet with a high metal content would work, except that it probably couldn't hold an atmosphere for long. And tectonic plates depend on a planet's age rather than it's size, at least in the size range we're talking about. However, get too big, and you'll have a high helium content in the atmosphere.

Still, the possible range of useful planets goes from about 0.5 Earth masses to about 3.5 Earth masses, with some uncertainty. You don't need magic for a plausible non-Earth-sized planet with a civilization. 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 16 janvier 2014 - 06:07 .


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Easy. If we assume Thedas is on a rock planet with an iron core similar to earth it absolutely HAS to be earth sized, otherwise gravity would be either much less or a lot more. (Bigger = more mass = more gravity)

Modifié par The Woldan , 16 janvier 2014 - 09:46 .


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The Woldan wrote...

Easy. If we assume Thedas is on a rock planet with an iron core similar to earth it absolutely HAS to be earth sized, otherwise gravity would be either much less or a lot more. (Bigger = more mass = more gravity)

So it's less, then, given how big the weapons are and how high the characters can jump.

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or it could be a flat world on a back of a giant turtle being held up by 4 elephants floating in the cosmos.

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I would be the first one to support a DA game with a main plot that involves exploring the high seas, mainly because I love the idea of a nautical adventure with your own ship. However, it seems counterproductive to go to all the trouble to create Thedas' lore just to go to a location we know nothing about, instead of focusing on building upon the things we already know, so I fear it's unlikely it will ever happen.

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Gwydden wrote...

I would be the first one to support a DA game with a main plot that involves exploring the high seas, mainly because I love the idea of a nautical adventure with your own ship. However, it seems counterproductive to go to all the trouble to create Thedas' lore just to go to a location we know nothing about, instead of focusing on building upon the things we already know, so I fear it's unlikely it will ever happen.


Oh I'm aware hence why I said in the OP when all th loose ends in Thedas are taken care of.

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It's worth noting that Thedas is not the entire southern continent. We have no idea what's to the west of the area on the map. If Thedas is 'Europe' we might have a Russia + China size landmass attached to it that's unexplored.

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It'll be as big as Bioware needs it to be.

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I was about to suggest whether it wouldn't be more appropriate to speak of Thedas in terms of a "world" rather than presume it must be set in a cosmos like we are - before the in-jokes across the DA- and ME-games came up, anyway.

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Yes, maybe the Qunari left because they were outcasts among their people. That would be an interesting twist. And if their book turns out to be a lie . . .


Or, they merely fled persecution in their homeland, not dissimilar to the first Puritan settlers in the New World. Only in their case, they apparently went to terra incognita and did not claim those lands in the name of any one institution in their motherland.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

It's worth noting that Thedas is not the entire southern continent. We have no idea what's to the west of the area on the map. If Thedas is 'Europe' we might have a Russia + China size landmass attached to it that's unexplored.


I'd wager if we pass the thousands of miles that make up the Kokari wilds we would find something.

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There was a previous thread about this as well....
You have to assume using contemporary astronomy that the world of Thedas has to have a diameter of roughly 8000 miles, like the planets earth and Venus.

Thedas itself can't be the whole planet, it's just one area of the planet like North America is for the planet earth.

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Angrywolves wrote...

There was a previous thread about this as well....
You have to assume using contemporary astronomy that the world of Thedas has to have a diameter of roughly 8000 miles, like the planets earth and Venus.

Again, given magic, I don't see why we have to assume that.

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

There was a previous thread about this as well....
You have to assume using contemporary astronomy that the world of Thedas has to have a diameter of roughly 8000 miles, like the planets earth and Venus.

Again, given magic, I don't see why we have to assume that.


The planet is not a magical entity.No proof it is.Sheesh.<_<

Physics and astronomy say it has to be a certain size to support life.
Sad certain people must be anti-science these days...:(

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Angrywolves wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Angrywolves wrote...

There was a previous thread about this as well....
You have to assume using contemporary astronomy that the world of Thedas has to have a diameter of roughly 8000 miles, like the planets earth and Venus.

Again, given magic, I don't see why we have to assume that.


The planet is not a magical entity.No proof it is.Sheesh.<_<

Physics and astronomy say it has to be a certain size to support life.
Sad certain people must be anti-science these days...:(


...Before this devoles into any sort of argument...I was sort of refering to more of the idea that what more we can explore on Thedap and how it could be cool to play as a Christopher Columbus type character to discover siad undiscovered regions beyond Thedas.. Wasn't really refering to it's scientific size...I apologize for not being clear enough.:pinched:

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Now that this thread kind of mentioned it, I think a DA game that has the protagonist searching for new lands would be absolutely amazing. Discovery Age? Exodus Age? EA... No, nevermind.