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[Br0th3rGr1mm]

It's pretty simple. A trailer showing 2 different looking Shepherds would be confusing (even to long time ME fans). The actual REASON for a trailer is MARKETING of the game and confusing potential customers is not the best way to sell something.

Maybe an entirely new femshep trailer just for the fans? Kind of sounds like a lot of work for no payoff.  It just does not make financial sense to do this.

Modifié par Br0th3rGr1mm, 21 janvier 2010 - 01:02 .

[tanarri23]

Most potential customers are male, especially in the casual/shooter gamer category that the marketing seems to target (since the RPGers have already been won over by ME), so the Shepard used in marketing is male. That's all there is to it.

[Yootje]

I understand that financially, it doesn't make a lot of sense to make a separate trailer for femShep. But someone at Bioware must have played/tested part of the game as femShep, right? I had rather hoped that maybe we could get a little gameplay footage with her. Ah well. Maybe for ME3.

[12daws]

HALE IS OVERATED AND BRILLIANT AT THE SAME TIME THIS IS A GAME NOT SHAKESPEARES MACBETH

Modifié par 12daws, 21 janvier 2010 - 02:35 .

[PoiSIN-XIII]

i always find it confusing when people bring up the female side of games for mass effect if anything i think they have gone far out of they way to please the female gamer i just have hard time understanding it i guess. I assure you people not heavy into games would get rather confused if they saw two of the same ads save for replacing the gender take for an example all be it a rather out there one that the next tomb raider game let you play as male or female but still called them by the same name I assure you people would be -vary- confused

[nippleguy]

i played ME twice through with a female shepard. I tried a male, but i liked her voice and personality more. I plan to import her into the next two games as well. Partly because of her personality and partly because if i'm going to watch my charactor for hours on end, it might as well be a nice female butt in tight pants.

[QuantumSponge]

CapsFan67 wrote...

I think their ME3 marketing campaign should play the male and female Sheps off each other. Maybe having them stand back-to-back on cover work.

I could listen to Jennifer Hale talk all day long. She just has one of those pleasant voices, that can calm the soul. Thanks for the interview links!

I say Bioware should go one better, and let players import their Shepards directly into the promotional material. (I'm serious. It could be an awesome way to market ME3, by letting players see their Shepard in the next game. It'd have to be procedurally generated, instead of recorded, but the technology for that is already around, I believe).

Anyway, terrific interview. Hale always manages to elucidate the subject of voice acting, whenever she's interviewed, which, in my opinion, doesn't happen nearly often enough.

As for letting Bioware know we'd like to see more of Femshep et al, I'm pretty sure they must have heard by now. Still, it wouldn't hurt to press the matter..

[ArowannaSwe]

I don't have so much to say, but I love Jennifer Hale's voice-acting,
and together with Yvonne Strahovski, and the guy who voice-acts
for The Illusive Man, this game will be more than just an epic RPG!

Regards
Arowanna

Modifié par ArowannaSwe, 21 janvier 2010 - 03:57 .

[Laterali]

I don't know, in ME1 her voice acting was just as monotonous and boring as male Shep's. Yeah she's a great voice actor, but it sounded like she was half asleep while reading her lines. Go play MGS4 or Kotor and listen to her lines in that, and then listen to ME1, you'll agree, she phoned it in.



I can see where she's coming from, but it's not like she didn't get paid for the work. They appreciated her work by asking her to be in the game and paying her. How much did you actually see Mark Meer in any of the ads. I think I saw him once in the Sci vs Fi show, for about 3 seconds.



Seeing a commercial with two main characters as male and female would be confusing to people not familiar with the game. They would have to make a developer diary showing her off, which they should have done anyway. But, they didn't. And i suspect they won't for ME3.

[Mossa_missa]

Shepard will always be a girl for me.



And yeah, havent seen a single trailer or ingame part where they actuly show the female Shepard. Atleest I cant recall seing any.

[ArowannaSwe]

Mossa_missa wrote...

Shepard will always be a girl for me.

And yeah, havent seen a single trailer or ingame part where they actuly show the female Shepard. Atleest I cant recall seing any.

For me too, or 90% of the time
I actually started a male Shepard,
named after my real name, but got bored

Regards
Arowanna

[RogueAI]

Horrible voice actress is horrible...

Hopefully she will be more consistent this time, instead of being all over the place.

[N30795]

I can't stand Sheploo's face anymore, nor his voice. He doesn't even look attractive anymore, he just creeps me out. I hope we'll see a litlle of FemShep for ME3. A full-Sheploo marketing campain again, and I'll start a riot.

[TheGuv]

I like Meer. He is Commander Shepard to my ears, and I like how he deals with situations.

[Malkavianqueen]

I seriously didn't know you could be a female character in the first Mass Effect for the longest time, so I didn't buy it until lest year! T__T I would've been happy with one video or something featuring female shepard.

[ERJAK1]

12daws wrote...

HALE IS OVERATED AND BRILLIANT AT THE SAME TIME THIS IS A GAME NOT SHAKESPEARES MACBETH

HALE CANNOT BE OVERRATED, NO MATTER HOW AWESOME YOU THINK SHE IS IT'S NOT AWESOME ENOUGH. I AGREE IT'S NOT MACBETH. MACBETH WAS BORING THIS IS BETTER.

[LexXxich]

Excuse of "confusion" is just silly. It's defeated by simple marking the trailer video as "customisation options" and saying it in the video itself with letters THIS BIG. Anyone confused after that is not fit to play anything as complex as ME anyway.

One promotional video is all I ask. I've never knew ME1 was possible to play as female until whole "lesbian sex scene" ordeal. Only then I looked it up, found out it's voiced, by Hale no less, and bought it.(not only because of blue chicks sexing, mind you)

[CapsFan67]

QuantumSponge wrote...

CapsFan67 wrote...

I think their ME3 marketing campaign should play the male and female Sheps off each other. Maybe having them stand back-to-back on cover work.

I could listen to Jennifer Hale talk all day long. She just has one of those pleasant voices, that can calm the soul. Thanks for the interview links!

I say Bioware should go one better, and let players import their Shepards directly into the promotional material. (I'm serious. It could be an awesome way to market ME3, by letting players see their Shepard in the next game. It'd have to be procedurally generated, instead of recorded, but the technology for that is already around, I believe).

Anyway, terrific interview. Hale always manages to elucidate the subject of voice acting, whenever she's interviewed, which, in my opinion, doesn't happen nearly often enough.

As for letting Bioware know we'd like to see more of Femshep et al, I'm pretty sure they must have heard by now. Still, it wouldn't hurt to press the matter..

I think if BioWare/EA wants to whip all of the JH fans into a froth, they should hold a contest. Players could submitt their version of a femshep to be included in the ME3 marketing campaign. I don't  know, winner(s) get an all out ME3 collectors set and gamming rig.

[Riona45]

padawanmage wrote...

For someone who's voiced the MAIN CHARACTER, and even goes so far as to
praise the voice actor who does Male Shepard, I think the least that
Bioware could do is spare a little of the limelight for her.

I agree, I would like that.  On the other hand, the Dragon Age marketing campaign was heavily focused on male interests (tough-looking male warrior in armor, Morrigan romance), and yet when I actually played the game I never at any time felt shortchanged for having played a female (quite the opposite, actually--the game has quite a few references to your gender, and a female mage--which I played--gets a plot element in her origin that a male mage doesn't).

It's kind of like how the ME2 marketing seems to focus on a "renegade" Shepard.  I have no interest in playing the game that way, but experience has taught me to look at this trailers as presenting options for the player rather than suggestions.   But still, marketing affects people's attitudes, and not every possible player has the experience that I do, so showing a female Shepard might well lure people into trying out the game--people who might have written it off as a "guy's thing."

Modifié par Riona45, 21 janvier 2010 - 06:56 .

[padawanmage]

Willowhugger wrote...

People are just upset about the lack of FemmShep.

I think they decide to take it on Mark.

If Jennifer Hale herself praised Mark, why should we fans take it out on him?

[padawanmage]

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

octoberfire wrote...

Yeah this. It just seems downright WRONG to have a talent like Hale receive absolutely no recognition for her phenomenal work. I mean, Christ! It's Bastila Shan, Naomi Hunter, and Samus Aran here! They're just basically sweeping her under the rug.

That's not true though. Both VAs are mentioned in the credits, with Hale even appearing before Meer. Because of the alphabetical order, but still. I get the feeling both VAs get the same recognition, they have both done interviews, etc.

The same recognition? Where is Hale shown in any of the interviews along with the other actors? Was she even seen, shown, etc. in that SciFi Special shown last night?  Credits aside, show me where where she is given at least some air time by EA and/or Bioware? 

[kcp12]

padawanmage wrote...

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

octoberfire wrote...

Yeah this. It just seems downright WRONG to have a talent like Hale receive absolutely no recognition for her phenomenal work. I mean, Christ! It's Bastila Shan, Naomi Hunter, and Samus Aran here! They're just basically sweeping her under the rug.

That's not true though. Both VAs are mentioned in the credits, with Hale even appearing before Meer. Because of the alphabetical order, but still. I get the feeling both VAs get the same recognition, they have both done interviews, etc.

The same recognition? Where is Hale shown in any of the interviews along with the other actors? Was she even seen, shown, etc. in that SciFi Special shown last night?  Credits aside, show me where where she is given at least some air time by EA and/or Bioware? 

Hale is apparently somewhat of a private person. Some guy interviewing Mark Meer said that.

[Revan312]

Personally I think Bioware messed up in the beginning of their marketing by not making femshep the lead ad face.  I even wish they'd have used Jennifer Hale's face for femshep as she is quite beautiful. www.lotsofinterviews.com/communities/9/004/006/884/439/images/4525571603.jpg

But this wasn't the case and I agree, at this point in the trilogy, showing off femshep in the trailers, on television etc would only confuse certain gamers, especially those that never played the first.  The most I could ask for is some specific trailers on the ME main site showing off some of the gear on femshep and the VO work.  I'm actually not sure why they didn't, as it would only increase female gamer support further.

As someone said earlier, I think a nice poster with Sheploo and default femshep back to back with a description about the options in char customization would be sweet, but I doubt EA/Bioware will ever budge on this point so it's sort of futile to keep asking. *shrugs*  If only we could change the past...

Modifié par Revan312, 21 janvier 2010 - 11:47 .

[12daws]

[padawanmage]

12daws wrote...

*Hands you a tissue* There, there...it's ok to cry...