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[Hathur]

My god, somebody dug up a thread over a year old and decided to post to it? The hell? How many goddamn pages did you have to vault through to find this.. christ.

Oh.. also, this horse has been beaten to death and put through the wood chipper more times than would be considered psycologically healthy.

Modifié par Hathur, 19 mars 2011 - 10:07 .

[Dexi]

This thread is pointless just like Harbinger's battle taunts...

Femshep is just an illusion and they will never show femshep in a trailer.
Deal with it.

[matt-bassist]

It's because women can't *really* be soldiers. They're too weak and far too easy to push around... Also, who would you rather want to see on boxart? A female who can't hold a gun properly, or a built Hulk machine, single-handedly saving humanity?

I think I've proven my point.

[android654]

@matt-bassist Wow...

I think Hale's shep should be marketed more, simply because she's the better of the two voice actors.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

android654 wrote...

@matt-bassist Wow...

I think Hale's shep should be marketed more, simply because she's the better of the two voice actors.

This thread again? *facepalm*

Hale is not better than Meer. Sometimes she comes off as manly, sometimes just as monotone as Meer. And Meer is no better. I think they both need work.

[Nathan Redgrave]

matt-bassist wrote...

It's because women can't *really* be soldiers. They're too weak and far too easy to push around... Also, who would you rather want to see on boxart? A female who can't hold a gun properly, or a built Hulk machine, single-handedly saving humanity?

I think I've proven my point.

Well, I don't swing that way, so I'll take the female who can't hold a gun properly, thank you very much.

...

Okay, that was immature. But I personally do enjoy female protagonists. I wouldn't put FemShep on the marketing materials, though, mostly because the default look for FemShep is kind of "meh." FemHawke is a different story.

Not that MaleShep is particularly interesting, but at least his default face looks okay, if a bit too "Generic Space Marine."

[Ramirez Wolfen]

All Dead wrote...

android654 wrote...

@matt-bassist Wow...

I think Hale's shep should be marketed more, simply because she's the better of the two voice actors.

I think he's just trolling for the laughs. I know there's a permeating streak of sexism within gaming culture (and human society as a whole, of course), but I can't imagine there's still a neanderthal alive today who thinks women are physically or mentally unable to learn how to hold a gun properly. Thus, lulz.

The gaming world isn't all that sexist.

[Babli]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

All Dead wrote...

android654 wrote...

@matt-bassist Wow...

I think Hale's shep should be marketed more, simply because she's the better of the two voice actors.

I think he's just trolling for the laughs. I know there's a permeating streak of sexism within gaming culture (and human society as a whole, of course), but I can't imagine there's still a neanderthal alive today who thinks women are physically or mentally unable to learn how to hold a gun properly. Thus, lulz.

The gaming world isn't all that sexist.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

All Dead wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

The gaming world isn't all that sexist.

Of course it is. It exists in the industry, in the audience, and with game journalism. There are a lot of blogs and articles dedicated to the topic. Here's a good place to start:

http://gomakemeasandwich.blogspot.com/

As well, try having an Xbox Live profile that is openly female and enjoy the sexually harassing messages. Go look up just about any gaming article on Jade Raymond, as well as read the comments. It's not a female-friendly hobby at all. And by "friendly" I don't mean being patronized and condescended to.

I think you're really talking about the community. The community is filled with idiots. And even then quite a few of them aren't serious (it doesn't make it any better). They are just retards.  That's just part of the gaming world. When it comes to things in games such as:

1. Femshep not on the cover.
2. Female characters being overly sexualized

That's just part of  the "sex sells" marketing strategy. It works every time. Developers of games aren't sexist, they are just sticking with something that works.

EDIT: For number one it's just that most gamers are male.

Modifié par Ramirez Wolfen, 19 mars 2011 - 02:02 .

[The_Illusive]

^This. It's simple, do you choose a girl with small boobs or big? Oh wait, don't answear. I know it already

[Hathur]

sigh.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

@Hathur I don't get it.

[XyleJKH]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

@Hathur I don't get it.

beating a dead horse dumb dumb

[Ramirez Wolfen]

XyleJKH wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

@Hathur I don't get it.

beating a dead horse dumb dumb

What does a beating a dead horse have to do with anything? What's up with the name calling?

[Ironhyde01]

You gotta be trolling.

[Ramirez Wolfen]

Ironhyde01 wrote...

You gotta be trolling.

I'm serious. I really don't understand what that means.

[Ironhyde01]

It's an exercise in futili....

Hey!

[Ramirez Wolfen]

Ironhyde01 wrote...

It's an exercise in futili....

Hey!

?

[Hathur]

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Ironhyde01 wrote...

You gotta be trolling.

I'm serious. I really don't understand what that means.

Here, the rudimentary urban explanation: http://www.urbandict...ng a dead horse

And the historic reference http://en.wikipedia....ng_a_dead_horse

Modifié par Hathur, 19 mars 2011 - 03:52 .

[android654]

All Dead wrote...

android654 wrote...

@matt-bassist Wow...

I think Hale's shep should be marketed more, simply because she's the better of the two voice actors.

I think he's just trolling for the laughs. I know there's a permeating streak of sexism within gaming culture (and human society as a whole, of course), but I can't imagine there's still a neanderthal alive today who thinks women are physically or mentally unable to learn how to hold a gun properly. Thus, lulz.

Yeah, I wasn't. I honestly think she's the better of the two.

[Nathan Redgrave]

In any event, if they tried to put marketing spotlight on the female Shepard, you just know some prude would jump to the "sex appeal" argument on principle, regardless of it actually being prominent. The "faux news" crowd would bring back the "Mass Errect" gag and we'd all collectively facepalm at the idiocy of the human race. (FemShep is, after all, one of the least-oversexed female protagonists ever to grace the face of gaming, since she is, by default, quite ordinary in every respect, ME1's skintight armor style aside)