I still lament there not being an option to make Cloneshep squadmate/LI.
Anybody else think CloneShep was a better antagonist in ME3 than Kai Leng?
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#27
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 07:50
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ruggly wrote...
Kai Leng killed someone with a toothbrush, how can that possibly not make him better than cloneshep.
Bad writting doesn't count.
#28
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 07:58
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You know I meant compelling.dreamgazer wrote...
sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
Clone Shepard was a better antagonist than the reapers.
Yeah, it's a shame that the Reapers weren't allowed to exercise the entirety of their prowess and simply torch everything within their line of sight.
#30
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:01
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They're both equally terrible antagonists. Cloneshep is redeemed slightly for being pure cheese whilst Kai Leng is saved because he has nearly no character to him whatsoever.
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#31
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:01
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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
You know I meant compelling.dreamgazer wrote...
sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
Clone Shepard was a better antagonist than the reapers.
Yeah, it's a shame that the Reapers weren't allowed to exercise the entirety of their prowess and simply torch everything within their line of sight.
I did, I did.
#32
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:02
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Of course CloneShep was better than Kai Leng. ME3 maingame has to have the crappiest antagonists ever in almost any story.
#33
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:03
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Mesina2 wrote...
ruggly wrote...
Kai Leng killed someone with a toothbrush, how can that possibly not make him better than cloneshep.
Bad writting doesn't count.
Don't tell Project Lazarus that.
#34
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:05
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I like to think that Clone Shep is the original and was driven mad by his imprisonment.
#35
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:09
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TBH I didn't really even register kai leng (apart from his cut scene badass upgrade - that completely destroyed any interest in his character). In the game he just gets steamrollered.
The clone, on the other hand, was actually really entertaining.
The clone, on the other hand, was actually really entertaining.
#36
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:12
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Taking on Leng at Thessia and Cronos as an EngineerShep with a heavily-upgraded Overload is hilarious.
#37
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:12
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von uber wrote...
TBH I didn't really even register kai leng (apart from his cut scene badass upgrade - that completely destroyed any interest in his character). In the game he just gets steamrollered.
The clone, on the other hand, was actually really entertaining.
NOVA ON NOVA ACTION!!!
#38
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:15
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NOVA ON NOVA ACTION!!!
My fight agasint myself in the cargo bay was one giant nova spam fest.
#39
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:15
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I wont classify kai Leng as an antagonist, that's more TIMs title. Kai Leng is just henchman nothing more, nothing less so you don't expect much development thought had a backstory which could have lead to a better character overall if done right. Clone is intended to be a through away villain, made for comedic cheesiness and just for someone to fight against in the dlc so not to be taken seriousness. Its like comparing apples and chips, the two have little similarities to compare.
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Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:24
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They were both painfully corny, but clone shep was at least somewhat comedic(as was intended), Kai Leng was just a Raiden/Hayabusa wannabe.
#41
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:29
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Seboist wrote...
I still lament there not being an option to make Cloneshep squadmate/LI.
That would be some serious narcissism
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#42
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:32
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Clone Shep was definitely a better villain than Kai Leng. Leng was only another Troy Baker anime-ish ninja henchman only there to stop Shepard at the most inconvenient of times. Clone Shep had a connection to Shepard and had much more deviant plans. They were a little goofy but it made you hate him/her for what she was trying to do to you. Now they just needed to make a clone of Garrus...
#43
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:33
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Axdinosaurx wrote...
Seboist wrote...
I still lament there not being an option to make Cloneshep squadmate/LI.
That's would be some serious narcissicm
Which is why it'd be awesome.
#44
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:36
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I'm still sad they didn't go for the gender-bender clone. That would have made for a fun meta-reference.
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Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:43
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CloneShep is the best antagonist in the series tbh.
#46
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:47
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ImaginaryMatter wrote...
I'm still sad they didn't go for the gender-bender clone. That would have made for a fun meta-reference.
Meer vs Hale
lol
#47
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 08:54
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Meer said he would've enjoyed that, in an interview. He thought it would've been interesting as well. Appearance-wise though it would've been odd, since default male and female Sheps don't look anything alike and trying to match with customs would be even worse.AresKeith wrote...
ImaginaryMatter wrote...
I'm still sad they didn't go for the gender-bender clone. That would have made for a fun meta-reference.
Meer vs Hale
lol
Personally I liked seeing my custom in double, but the inverted clone idea would be fun too.
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#48
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 09:10
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To be honest, I don't quite understand all the "Kai Leng sucks" sentiment on BSN. He's not even close to one of my favorite antagonists, but I didn't especially expect him to be. He's there to supply a few cutscenes and two boss fights, and that's about it. Is he fairly one-dimensional? Sure, but so were Captain Wasea, Dr. Saleon, the Blue Suns guy organizing the attack on Garrus, and a bunch of other villains who served a limited purpose.
CloneShep is more interesting than Leng, but (s)he's also impossible to take 100% seriously. For starters, if creating a clone like that is possible in the ME Universe, I find it hard to believe that we wouldn't have stumbled across mercs trafficking the technology, or krogan trying to clone themselves to compensate for the genophage, or *something* weird happening other than Cerberus creating a spare Shepard and then doing nothing with him/her.
CloneShep is more interesting than Leng, but (s)he's also impossible to take 100% seriously. For starters, if creating a clone like that is possible in the ME Universe, I find it hard to believe that we wouldn't have stumbled across mercs trafficking the technology, or krogan trying to clone themselves to compensate for the genophage, or *something* weird happening other than Cerberus creating a spare Shepard and then doing nothing with him/her.
#49
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 09:11
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It's not that hard to beat Kai Leng as an antagonist in ME3... There was clearly something missing there. He was mostly anoying.
#50
Posté 17 janvier 2014 - 09:16
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FlyingSquirrel wrote...
CloneShep is more interesting than Leng, but (s)he's also impossible to take 100% seriously. For starters, if creating a clone like that is possible in the ME Universe, I find it hard to believe that we wouldn't have stumbled across mercs trafficking the technology, or krogan trying to clone themselves to compensate for the genophage, or *something* weird happening other than Cerberus creating a spare Shepard and then doing nothing with him/her.
Possibly cost-prohibitive. There's a ton of cool scientific stuff we could do today - some of it dealing with cloning - but there's not much economic incentive to doing so, so it doesn't get funded.
