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[darkchief10]

FreshRevenge wrote...

I know there is a lot of head lines on the net that says Morrigan will not be part of your team but I heard she may in fact be part of your team. Can someone clarify this?

I wish that Morrigan would be a playable character again. She would be my number 1 again:O

David Gaider confirmed through gameinformer that morrigan will not be a party member but will have a big part to play in the plot for DA:I

[FreshRevenge]

darkchief10 wrote...

FreshRevenge wrote...

I know there is a lot of head lines on the net that says Morrigan will not be part of your team but I heard she may in fact be part of your team. Can someone clarify this?

I wish that Morrigan would be a playable character again. She would be my number 1 again:O

David Gaider confirmed through gameinformer that morrigan will not be a party member but will have a big part to play in the plot for DA:I

excuse me while I bash my head against the wall, this must be some mistake? Anyway I think there should some sort of mission that you can have her part of your party members but not the whole game. I was a little disappointed with the Witchhunt DLC because it seemed that you only got to see Morrigan at the very end and than it was over.

[Grieving Natashina]

http://www.gameinfor...nd-present.aspx

This gameinformer article actually goes into great detail about Morrigan. Whether or not you (general term) agree with BioWare's decision to include her in Inquisition, it's an excellent read.

Edit: I FINALLY got one of my current characters from DA2 to upload onto the BSN.  I'm glad I can use a current character as my avatar.  

Modifié par Starsyn, 18 janvier 2014 - 06:33 .

[grumpymooselion]

I guess I just never liked Morrigan much in the first place, at all really. I think, in the end, regardless of which she turns out to be . . . that still won't change. For myself, that means that I don't really care which way they take the character. My opinion of her actions can't really get any lower. Mind you, when I say I don't like the character, I mean the character herself, the writing of the character is decent enough - I've no problem with that.

[Grieving Natashina]

Janan Pacha wrote...

I guess I just never liked Morrigan much in the first place, at all really. I think, in the end, regardless of which she turns out to be . . . that still won't change. For myself, that means that I don't really care which way they take the character. My opinion of her actions can't really get any lower. Mind you, when I say I don't like the character, I mean the character herself, the writing of the character is decent enough - I've no problem with that.

I understand.  I'm not a fan of Morrigan's personality, but I think the writing is good.  The potential for Morrigan's story seems neat.

[FreshRevenge]

Grey Warden: you have been very quiet, Alistar
Alistar: I know, I have been thinking.
Morrigan:No wonder it took so long!

The best line ever from Morrigan!

[Rotward]

While I don't totally disagree, your logic falls apart when you claim the only reason she's hiding her methods is because it's not best for thedas. It could just as well be that what she's doing is dangerous, and she'd rather not put the warden at risk, or argue about the risk with the warden.

Some people prefer to work alone, and not because they're secretly plotting our demise.

[darkchief10]

Rotward wrote...

While I don't totally disagree, your logic falls apart when you claim the only reason she's hiding her methods is because it's not best for thedas. It could just as well be that what she's doing is dangerous, and she'd rather not put the warden at risk, or argue about the risk with the warden.

Some people prefer to work alone, and not because they're secretly plotting our demise.

logic, in my bsn? have a cookie good sir.

[FreshRevenge]

Will Bioware acknowledge the fact that maybe your warden did go through the mirror and maybe help Morrigan with her plans?

[Gregolian]

darkchief10 wrote...

Rotward wrote...

While I don't totally disagree, your logic falls apart when you claim the only reason she's hiding her methods is because it's not best for thedas. It could just as well be that what she's doing is dangerous, and she'd rather not put the warden at risk, or argue about the risk with the warden.

Some people prefer to work alone, and not because they're secretly plotting our demise.

logic, in my bsn? have a cookie good sir.

If that ish is oatmeal raisin masquerading as chocolate chip I hope he shanks you.

[grumpymooselion]

Starsyn wrote...

Janan Pacha wrote...

I guess I just never liked Morrigan much in the first place, at all really. I think, in the end, regardless of which she turns out to be . . . that still won't change. For myself, that means that I don't really care which way they take the character. My opinion of her actions can't really get any lower. Mind you, when I say I don't like the character, I mean the character herself, the writing of the character is decent enough - I've no problem with that.

I understand.  I'm not a fan of Morrigan's personality, but I think the writing is good.  The potential for Morrigan's story seems neat.

I hope it goes somewhere interesting, certainly, the writing is decent enough for it. I don't have to like the character herself to hope for something engaging. Time will tell on that one.

Your portrait turned out nicely by the way. Bravo. I've stuck with my old DA:O rogue all this time, it sort of makes me hope for an EVE style portrait creator, in DA:I, as their character creator provides. I've had way too much fun giving my EVE character silly expressions for portraits.

[FreshRevenge]

How can people not like Morrigan? This puzzles me?

[darkchief10]

FreshRevenge wrote...

Will Bioware acknowledge the fact that maybe your warden did go through the mirror and maybe help Morrigan with her plans?

yeah it should import flags from witch hunt, which DA2 didn't do apparently

Modifié par darkchief10, 18 janvier 2014 - 07:15 .

[darkchief10]

Gregolian wrote...

darkchief10 wrote...

Rotward wrote...

While I don't totally disagree, your logic falls apart when you claim the only reason she's hiding her methods is because it's not best for thedas. It could just as well be that what she's doing is dangerous, and she'd rather not put the warden at risk, or argue about the risk with the warden.

Some people prefer to work alone, and not because they're secretly plotting our demise.

logic, in my bsn? have a cookie good sir.

If that ish is oatmeal raisin masquerading as chocolate chip I hope he shanks you.

Why can't it be oatmeal raisin with chocolate chips?

[Grieving Natashina]

@Janan Thanks for the compliment. I do plan on playing her, but I'm not marathon gaming again for awhile. Honestly, my wrist kinda hurts after that. I went a little nuts for a bit:

Origins x2
DA2 x 2.5 (long story)
Then Origins again, plus Awakening, Golems and Witch Hunt. The last 3 I had never done before and I've had the Ultimate Edition for over a year now.

All since the beginning of December. My wrist is honestly starting to hurt from it, so it'll be infrequent for a bit. :innocent:

Modifié par Starsyn, 18 janvier 2014 - 07:22 .

[Ieldra]

ziloe wrote...
Morrigan is her own person, that's why most people hate her character, because unlike the others, throughout the quest, she had her own motivations. And personally, I see nothing wrong with that.

If anything, they need more characters like Morrigan.

Absolutely. I recall that David Gaider said she was created to have her own story, independent from that of the Warden, which is why she leaves at the end. It is that what I like about her: the independence. I recall when Morrigan left in my first DAO game with a Morrigan romance, I was sad but I thought if she hadn't left, she wouldn't be the person this Warden loved. I found this ending absolutely fitting, and since it left hope for the future (that was before Witch Hunt) I liked it very much. Then, of course, came Witch Hunt and my Warden could follow his passion for two things: Morrigan and the Unknown. It was a perfect story.

In DAI, it may be possible to make her into an enemy, but I don't think she'll be an antagonist by default. If she is, I'll be both very surprised and very pissed off. I also hope they won't soften her too much.

[superdeathdealer14]

Morrigan is said to have a softer side in Inquisition, probably because of motherhood and maybe the ending of WH may have an on effect her.

Modifié par superdeathdealer14, 18 janvier 2014 - 09:09 .

[Jilinthar]

For me, the most puzzling thing is the webcomic that takes place right before Morrigan offering the Dark Ritual.
It implies that Morrigan thinks the ritual is actually a BAD thing and she is unsure about whether she should offer it or not. Unless I understand something wrong, she originally planned on doing the ritual and the Old God Baby was the ultimate reason why she ever joined Alistair and the Warden in first place. She basically admitted that in my dialogue at the end of Witch Hunt. I think?

However, in that comic she seems to struggle because she has come to care for the people she is with, out of all companions she asks ALISTAIR about his moral ideas. The guy who used to be her least favourite one, but apparently she has come to respect his views that differ a lot from her own, enough to actually look to him for advice. Like...wow.

The point is, she shows there that she considers the ritual to be a horrible thing. By then. Originally it was why she came along and what she had been planning on doing all along, the rest (wanting to experience the world, cause her mother told her to, etc) were lies or half-truths at best. And there she has second thoughts and only does it in order to save people's lives now apparently.

So I find that change in values there very interesting, even if it's only shown indirectly and only in a comic because that scene didn't make it into the game.

Personally I really don't like Morrigan at all because I find her snappy remarks tactless and downright cruel sometimes. But like all the others already said, she's a character with many facettes, and my dislike is purely based on personal values of my own.

Edit: I also noticed a big difference in how Morrigan acts towards a male as opposed to a female warden. With my female characters, I couldn't even have a normal conversation without her diaspproving and being moody and grumpy. As a male, she even finds my "asking so many question" cute right away. oO
So I guess this is also because of her already having her "ultimate goal" in mind, she knows where she wants to get that guy and that's why she doesn't act as much as a bi*** towards a male warden right from the start.

Modifié par Jilinthar, 18 janvier 2014 - 09:21 .

[darkchief10]

Jilinthar wrote...

For me, the most puzzling thing is the webcomic that takes place right before Morrigan offering the Dark Ritual.
It implies that Morrigan thinks the ritual is actually a BAD thing and she is unsure about whether she should offer it or not. Unless I understand something wrong, she originally planned on doing the ritual and that was the ultimate reason why she ever joined Alistair and the Warden in first place. She basically admitted that in my dialogue at the end of Witch Hunt.

However, in that comic she seems to struggle because she has come to care for the people she is with, out of all companions she asks ALISTAIR about his moral ideas. The guy who used to be her least favourite one, but apparently she has come to respect his views that differ a lot from her own, enough to actually look to him for advice. Like...wow.

The point is, she shows there that she considers the ritual to be a horrible thing. By then. Originally it was why she came along and what she had been planning on doing all along, the rest (wanting to experience the world, cause her mother told her to, etc) were lies or half-truths at best.

So I find that change in values there very interesting, even if it's only shown indirectly and only in a comic because that scene didn't make it into the game.

Personally I really don't like Morrigan at all because I find her snappy remarks tactless and downright cruel sometimes. But like all the others already said, she's a character with many facettes, and my dislike is purely based on personal values of my own.

Edit: I also noticed a big difference in how Morrigan acts towards a male as opposed to a female warden. With my female characters, I couldn't even have a normal conversation without her diaspproving and being moody and grumpy. As a male, she even finds my "asking so many question" cute right away. oO
So I guess this is also because of her already having her "ultimate goal" in mind, she knows where she wants to get that guy and that's why she doesn't act as much as a bi*** towards a male warden right from the start.

can i please get a link to this webcomic please, now that i know that it exists i needs it...

[Jilinthar]

darkchief10 wrote...
can i please get a link to this webcomic please, now that i know that it exists i needs it...

http://blog.bioware....velation-comic/

[darkchief10]

thank you, just when you think you've tracked down every single scrap of extended universe something new comes out lol

[Ieldra]

Jilinthar wrote...
For me, the most puzzling thing is the webcomic that takes place right before Morrigan offering the Dark Ritual.
It implies that Morrigan thinks the ritual is actually a BAD thing and she is unsure about whether she should offer it or not. Unless I understand something wrong, she originally planned on doing the ritual and the Old God Baby was the ultimate reason why she ever joined Alistair and the Warden in first place. She basically admitted that in my dialogue at the end of Witch Hunt. I think?

However, in that comic she seems to struggle because she has come to care for the people she is with, out of all companions she asks ALISTAIR about his moral ideas. The guy who used to be her least favourite one, but apparently she has come to respect his views that differ a lot from her own, enough to actually look to him for advice. Like...wow.

The point is, she shows there that she considers the ritual to be a horrible thing. By then. Originally it was why she came along and what she had been planning on doing all along, the rest (wanting to experience the world, cause her mother told her to, etc) were lies or half-truths at best. And there she has second thoughts and only does it in order to save people's lives now apparently.

So I find that change in values there very interesting, even if it's only shown indirectly and only in a comic because that scene didn't make it into the game.

Argh. I don't know this webcomic, but this is typical of Bioware's writing. As soon as people become "softer", they stop doing things that feel uncomfortable all over the board, with no attempt to distinguish between things that may actually harm anyone and things that just feel uncomfortable. I don't see what's so bad about that ritual. I find it interesting and my Warden agreed to it not just because it saves his life, but because he agreed with Morrigan's given reasons.

I just hope Morrigan escapes Miranda's fate. If she doesn't, I might just give up on Bioware's stories altogether. Being good doesn't mean following an unreflected feel-good morality. Gods, how I hate that.

[dragondreamer]

 Or maybe Morrigan will be Sarah Connor now. 

[MisterJB]

Ieldra2 wrote...
Argh. I don't know this webcomic, but this is typical of Bioware's writing. As soon as people become "softer", they stop doing things that feel uncomfortable all over the board, with no attempt to distinguish between things that may actually harm anyone and things that just feel uncomfortable. I don't see what's so bad about that ritual. I find it interesting and my Warden agreed to it not just because it saves his life, but because he agreed with Morrigan's given reasons.

I just hope Morrigan escapes Miranda's fate. If she doesn't, I might just give up on Bioware's stories altogether. Being good doesn't mean following an unreflected feel-good morality. Gods, how I hate that.

There is no character assassination if Morrigan feels somewhat apprehensive about the ritual; even if it is something she really wants, people can want things and still have doubts.
Morrigan might feel there are dangers to what she is about to do. Unlike the OGB, this is really nothing outwardly; we are talking about preserving the Thedosian equivalent of Cthulhu if Cthulhu had spawned an empire that once enslaved the world and then tried to destroy it five times.
It makes more sense for there to be dangers than the opposite.
And if you really don't like that interpretation, there are other ways of looking at it. Morrigan could feel regret over betraying a lover or even just a friend; either by abandoning them or asking them for permission to sleep with their loved one AKA Alistair and carry his child.

So far, there is nothing that indicates Morrigan's character is being altered in any way.

Modifié par MisterJB, 18 janvier 2014 - 02:21 .

[CybAnt1]

I'm glad she's back, even as an NPC, so I can hear more of Claudia Black's heart-melting voice.

The writers have said she'll be playing more of a "human role" in the story. I'm still not exactly sure what that means - but I'm eager to find out.

Again, I wonder what about her character will be "canonical". Looks like she is the court mage of Empress Celene. 

But -- motherhood ... did she give birth to the OGB? Will we meet ... it? Will they simply put the paternity matter aside? 
And was the "standard" Witch Hunt ending canonical ... which means she now knows where the eluvians go and has returned from it?

Modifié par CybAnt1, 18 janvier 2014 - 02:29 .