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[General TSAR]

[quote]The Hierophant wrote...

[quote]101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Elves aren't the problem its the humans and the chantry.[quote]
The elves could do no wrong.

Token victim race ftw.[/quote]

[LobselVith8]

General TSAR wrote...

I know a solution to the Elf problem.

One systematic Holy Exalted March between all the Kingdoms could in theory neutralize the Elven clans + their warriors, hunters, and mages and the Elven women will be spoils of war for the victors and since Elven DNA is recessive, no need to worry about Elven children.

And I'm suddenly reminded why I want an independent Dales for the Elvhen.

[General TSAR]

By all means, one area where all the knife ears are concentrated would save months of endless tracking and I can only imagine all those fine lasses just waiting to be rescued by Templar vanguards.

Ahh....

Modifié par General TSAR, 20 janvier 2014 - 02:16 .

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Faerunner wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

It wasn't just Red Crossing that happened prior to The Exalted March though. Before the Divine called for holy war the elves had control of one of Orlais' biggest cities and were marching on their capital.

Which still doesn't negate my point that all sources indicate humans were waiting to pounce on the first opportunity to attack the elves. =/

You don't think losing a major city and almost losing another is sufficiant reason to begin a war? I think by the time elves are bearing down on one's captial, then the "first opportunity" to attack is already gone.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 20 janvier 2014 - 02:16 .

[EmperorSahlertz]

Faerunner wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

It wasn't just Red Crossing that happened prior to The Exalted March though. Before the Divine called for holy war the elves had control of one of Orlais' biggest cities and were marching on their capital.

Which still doesn't negate my point that all sources indicate humans were waiting for the first excuse to attack the elves. =/

Considering that the Elves were the ones who struck first, and were the ones who occupied a huge part of Orlesian territory, and even besieged the capital (and according to the wiki succeeded in sacking it), I would say that it was the Elves who was just waiting for an excuse to attack.

[General TSAR]

A sacking for a sacking.

[cjones91]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Faerunner wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

It wasn't just Red Crossing that happened prior to The Exalted March though. Before the Divine called for holy war the elves had control of one of Orlais' biggest cities and were marching on their capital.

Which still doesn't negate my point that all sources indicate humans were waiting for the first excuse to attack the elves. =/

Considering that the Elves were the ones who struck first, and were the ones who occupied a huge part of Orlesian territory, and even besieged the capital (and according to the wiki succeeded in sacking it), I would say that it was the Elves who was just waiting for an excuse to attack.

The Orlesians sent armed troops into Dalish lands after being told to leave the first time.Sending a armed force into a nation that asked to leave is practically begging for a fight.

[sandalisthemaker]

General TSAR wrote...

By all means, one area where all the knife ears are concentrated would save months of endless tracking and I can only imagine all those fine lasses just waiting to be rescued by Templar vanguards.

Ahh....

Let me guess, you want this as some sort of story element.

Are you drone5?

[General TSAR]

Sounds like the Elves done goofed and got nailed to the wall, heh hehe good riddance.

[addiction21]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Considering that the Elves were the ones who struck first, and were the ones who occupied a huge part of Orlesian territory, and even besieged the capital (and according to the wiki succeeded in sacking it), I would say that it was the Elves who was just waiting for an excuse to attack.

But its Elves.

Come on man! Elves are never in the wrong because they are elves and "reasons".

It doesn't really help the Dales started the invasion when Orleis was at a all time week point after fighting a blight and other wars...

But its Elves so just give them a break because its some pointy eared people. People with pointy ears are always in the right no matter what. Because having pointy ears mean something and pointy ears.

POINTY EARS DAMNIT

[General TSAR]

sandalisthemaker wrote...
Let me guess, you want this as some sort of story element.

(GASP)....No.

In DA:I,We're trying to prevent the world from cutting its throat, not score valuable booty.

That's a different BW game.

[cjones91]

addiction21 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Considering that the Elves were the ones who struck first, and were the ones who occupied a huge part of Orlesian territory, and even besieged the capital (and according to the wiki succeeded in sacking it), I would say that it was the Elves who was just waiting for an excuse to attack.

But its Elves.

Come on man! Elves are never in the wrong because they are elves and "reasons".

It doesn't really help the Dales started the invasion when Orleis was at a all time week point after fighting a blight and other wars...

But its Elves so just give them a break because its some pointy eared people. People with pointy ears are always in the right no matter what. Because having pointy ears mean something and pointy ears.

POINTY EARS DAMNIT

Holy hyperbole Batman,seriously though nobody is giving elves a pass for anything.

[TK514]

addiction21 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Considering that the Elves were the ones who struck first, and were the ones who occupied a huge part of Orlesian territory, and even besieged the capital (and according to the wiki succeeded in sacking it), I would say that it was the Elves who was just waiting for an excuse to attack.

But its Elves.

Come on man! Elves are never in the wrong because they are elves and "reasons".

It doesn't really help the Dales started the invasion when Orleis was at a all time week point after fighting a blight and other wars...

But its Elves so just give them a break because its some pointy eared people. People with pointy ears are always in the right no matter what. Because having pointy ears mean something and pointy ears.

POINTY EARS DAMNIT

I don't know what I was thinking.  Thank you, friend, for bringing me back to my senses.  The pointy ears do, in fact, excuse all sins.

[LobselVith8]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

General TSAR wrote...

By all means, one area where all the knife ears are concentrated would save months of endless tracking and I can only imagine all those fine lasses just waiting to be rescued by Templar vanguards.

Ahh....

Let me guess, you want this as some sort of story element.

Are you drone5? 

I hope genocide and mass rape isn't incorporated into a story element.

[addiction21]

cjones91 wrote...

Holy hyperbole Batman,seriously though nobody is giving elves a pass for anything.

Other then you and a handful of others.

[General TSAR]

Genocide not incorporated into the story element of a BioWare game?

BAHAHAHAHA!!!

Oh wow.

But yeah a crusade for booty is a crusade a lot of young men would die for, especially in Thedas.

Modifié par General TSAR, 20 janvier 2014 - 02:52 .

[General TSAR]

"Convert or die heathens," is such a cool verse.

[cjones91]

addiction21 wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Holy hyperbole Batman,seriously though nobody is giving elves a pass for anything.

Other then you and a handful of others.

When?I already know you have some sort of problem with me but what exactly have I given the elves a pass for?I already admit they were hostile to outsiders so care to point out how me and the so called others have excused the elves of anything?

[LobselVith8]

addiction21 wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

Holy hyperbole Batman,seriously though nobody is giving elves a pass for anything. 

Other then you and a handful of others. 

Because it's acknowledged by some of us that the Chantry version of what transpired to the Dales isn't the only historical account there is? Or because some people are disinclined to entirely trust the Chantry narrative because of the invasions that befell Nevarra, Kirkwall, and Ferelden?

[EmperorSahlertz]

cjones91 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Faerunner wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

It wasn't just Red Crossing that happened prior to The Exalted March though. Before the Divine called for holy war the elves had control of one of Orlais' biggest cities and were marching on their capital.

Which still doesn't negate my point that all sources indicate humans were waiting for the first excuse to attack the elves. =/

Considering that the Elves were the ones who struck first, and were the ones who occupied a huge part of Orlesian territory, and even besieged the capital (and according to the wiki succeeded in sacking it), I would say that it was the Elves who was just waiting for an excuse to attack.

The Orlesians sent armed troops into Dalish lands after being told to leave the first time.Sending a armed force into a nation that asked to leave is practically begging for a fight.

Uhm... No they didn't? IF you are going by the Dalish codex entry, which is absolute and utter bull**** and isn't even worth the cumstain in a teenagers underwear, then you should be able to differ between the CHANTRY and ORLAIS. The Dalish codex entry, can be interpreted as the Chantry sent in their Templars, but as you should know, despite the two being closely tied together, the Chantry and Orlais are not the same.

[TK514]

Faerunner wrote...

TK514 wrote...

addiction21 wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Considering that the Elves were the ones who struck first, and were the ones who occupied a huge part of Orlesian territory, and even besieged the capital (and according to the wiki succeeded in sacking it), I would say that it was the Elves who was just waiting for an excuse to attack.

But its Elves.

Come on man! Elves are never in the wrong because they are elves and "reasons".

It doesn't really help the Dales started the invasion when Orleis was at a all time week point after fighting a blight and other wars...

But its Elves so just give them a break because its some pointy eared people. People with pointy ears are always in the right no matter what. Because having pointy ears mean something and pointy ears.

POINTY EARS DAMNIT

I don't know what I was thinking.  Thank you, friend, for bringing me back to my senses.  The pointy ears do, in fact, excuse all sins.

Yeah, like mind their own business in their own country and then defending said country when invaded by armed forces sent after they made it clear they didn't want to be converted. Selfish goats.

I'm done here.

You'll just have to live with the fact that some of us prefer WoG over your private headcanon as the final word on the matter.

Modifié par TK514, 20 janvier 2014 - 03:01 .

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I keep saying that I think the templars referenced in that entry are the ones that joined in the Exalted March that conquered the Dales. The preceding sentence mentions that missionaries prior to the war and the following sentence mentions the elves being scattered form Halamshiral after the war.