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[Decepticon Leader Sully]

To be honest again we dont see that many couples in the games so whose to realy say.

[General TSAR]

michalooo wrote...

When I see all this bull crap about sexuality I sort of whish they cut all romances from the game.

Yeah it's become very annoying.

"WAH! WAH! I can't romance this set of pixels with my current PC."

[Grieving Natashina]

General TSAR wrote...

michalooo wrote...

When I see all this bull crap about sexuality I sort of whish they cut all romances from the game.

Yeah it's become very annoying.

"WAH! WAH! I can't romance this set of pixels with my current PC."

Then don't go into romance/sexuality threads.  

Besides, way to miss the OP's point.  They aren't talking about not getting the LI they want, they are talking about the way that gay people are pretty much invisible in the world.  From what I can gather, it's the rather "Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Pop Out Dem Babies" aspect of Thedas culture that has them steamed.  I may not entirely agree, but I certainly can respect where they are coming from.

Modifié par Starsyn, 18 janvier 2014 - 08:53 .

[General TSAR]

Nope, romance threads are trainwrecks I can't look away from.

[Grieving Natashina]

General TSAR wrote...

Nope, romance threads are trainwrecks I can't look away from.

You go into these threads and post to complain that people create and post in these threads.

Okay, seems circular but hey, whatever floats your rubby ducky.

Nap time.  Take care all.

[Sporothrix]

Pasquale1234 wrote...

There are a lot of things where expectations of public behavior are different from private reality.

Does that change anything for you?

No, because that's exactly what I was talking about. In Ferelden homosexuality is not considered the "norm" as those quotes and game itself clearly showed and you're expected to lead heterosexual life. But if you want to have hidden same sex relationship, people will be OK with it, as long as you stay in closet with it.

Pasquale1234 wrote...
I hope sexual orientation continues to be a non-issue in the game world.  If there is a need for an LI to deal with repression, I would hope it would apply to romances with either gender.

So in other words, you want repression to stay unquestioned in game. Or rather you pretend it's not repression at all...

Pasquale1234 wrote...
And you know that it isn't an equally awful experience for a non-lesbian woman who finds the man revolting?

But he wasn't revolting. That was the point, everyone was telling my character how lucky she is to get such handsome husband, while she felt completely alienated with her feelings and with a fact there's no one she could tell what's on her heart.
And a fact she was so isolated that couldn't tell anyone about her feelings is the best proof that it's not "non-issue".

Pasquale1234 wrote...
Only because you assume it to be so.  I've never heard one single character in either game state their sexuality.

But I think I have power over my character's sexuality. So I base my assumptions on what happened to her in game.

Modifié par misoretu9, 18 janvier 2014 - 08:54 .

[Eternal Phoenix]

Exaltation wrote...

Mages are the "gays" in Dragon Age duh lol.

I think most mages are actually gay. lol

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

DA:O was just plain terrible with S/S relationships, were pretty much ignored by everyone & treated like lesser romances compared to the straight ones. the ME series wasn't much better about it too.

[Laughing_Man]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Exaltation wrote...

Mages are the "gays" in Dragon Age duh lol.

I think most mages are actually gay. lol

Err... let me guess, you don't like mages, and you don't like gays?

[Veruin]

Threat300 wrote...

DA:O was just plain terrible with S/S relationships, were pretty much ignored by everyone & treated like lesser romances compared to the straight ones. the ME series wasn't much better about it too.

Dragon Age was always terrible with its romances, for straights and gays, what are you talking about?

[General TSAR]

Uh oh, more prosecution complexes.

[Hellion Rex]

Veruin wrote...

Threat300 wrote...

DA:O was just plain terrible with S/S relationships, were pretty much ignored by everyone & treated like lesser romances compared to the straight ones. the ME series wasn't much better about it too.

Dragon Age was always terrible with its romances, for straights and gays, what are you talking about?

I don't believe S/S suffered in quality, as I certainly enjoyed Zevran's romance, but I think the problem lied in quantity.

Modifié par eluvianix, 18 janvier 2014 - 09:04 .

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Veruin wrote...

Threat300 wrote...

DA:O was just plain terrible with S/S relationships, were pretty much ignored by everyone & treated like lesser romances compared to the straight ones. the ME series wasn't much better about it too.

Dragon Age was always terrible with its romances, for straights and gays, what are you talking about?

I agree that some romance content was terrible but not all, although the S/S stuff was pretty bad in origins

[Veruin]

Threat300 wrote...

I agree that some romance content was terrible but not all, although the S/S stuff was pretty bad in origins

Elaborate.

Modifié par Veruin, 18 janvier 2014 - 09:09 .

[Hellion Rex]

Threat300 wrote...

Veruin wrote...

Threat300 wrote...

DA:O was just plain terrible with S/S relationships, were pretty much ignored by everyone & treated like lesser romances compared to the straight ones. the ME series wasn't much better about it too.

Dragon Age was always terrible with its romances, for straights and gays, what are you talking about?

I agree that some romance content was terrible but not all, although the S/S stuff was pretty bad in origins

I disagree. I loved Zev's romance, although I thought S/S lacked quantity compared to other romances.

[General TSAR]

eluvianix wrote...
although I thought S/S lacked quantity compared to other romances.

Well duh, number of heterosexual players > homosexual players.

[Hellion Rex]

General TSAR wrote...

eluvianix wrote...
although I thought S/S lacked quantity compared to other romances.

Well duh, number of heterosexual players > homosexual players.

Let's drop it, please. No need for that.

Modifié par eluvianix, 18 janvier 2014 - 09:13 .

[General TSAR]

Am I not speaking the truth? BioWare's target audience are teenage and adult heterosexuals, what's wrong with that?

[Sporothrix]

Starsyn wrote...

However, I do not think that has anything to do with sexual preference and everything to do with how indivuals are treated.  Women, for instance or the casteless or the elves.  I haven't used the term "non-issue." I have said that no one seems to care too much about sexual preference, either way at all, and so far, that is the case.  I'd like to see more of Thedas in game before I make a judgement. 

Here's where we disagree, because I think that sexual preference has a lot to do with it. Arranged marriage is awful by itself, but it's another issue when you do it to a gay person. There's no way, no possiblity she could ever be happy this way. And that "no caring too much about sexual preference" means simply leaving only one - heterosexual - outcome. It's called "heterosexism" or "heteronormativity". It's not the same as homophobia, as homophobia is connected to hatred and violence, while here it's simply not considering homosexuality as valid option, at best as something that should be hidden and something that a person should be ashamed of.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Well if anything it anoyed Fox so win there.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Veruin wrote...

Threat300 wrote...

I agree that some romance content was terrible but not all, although the S/S stuff was pretty bad in origins

Elaborate.

The party completely ignoring S/S relationships apart from a few lines in camp & some unfunny jokes about a male/zevran pairing, straight pairings being able to kiss anywhere & a straight relationship being talked about in dialog over a gay one if trying to date two people were things that bothered me.

Modifié par Threat300, 18 janvier 2014 - 09:21 .

[General TSAR]

misoretu9 wrote...
Here's where we disagree, because I think that sexual preference has a lot to do with it. Arranged marriage is awful by itself, but it's another issue when you do it to a gay person. ]There's no way, no possiblity she could ever be happy this way. And that "no caring too much about sexual preference" means simply leaving only one - heterosexual - outcome. It's called "heterosexism" or "heteronormativity". It's not the same as homophobia, as homophobia is connected to hatred and violence, while here it's simply not considering homosexuality as valid option, at best as something that should be hidden and something that a person should be ashamed of.

LOL Wut?!

[General TSAR]

Threat300 wrote...
straight pairings being able to kiss anyway.

False. 

[Veruin]

Threat300 wrote...

The party completely ignoring S/S relationships apart from a few lines in camp & some unfunny jokes about a male/zevran pairing, straight pairings being able to kiss anywhere & a straight relationship being talked about in dialog over a gay one if trying to date two people were things that bothered me.

So, barring the M/F being able to kiss everywhere, that sounds exactly like the hetereo romances.