JordanDH wrote...
Nefla wrote...
I wonder how many of the people crying "oppression!" and "oversexualization!" Are actually women and how many are either misguided white knights that think they are helping women's rights, or simply men who don't like when women wear certain things and wish to force all women to wear what THEY like rather than what the woman likes?
YOU CAN DRESS YOUR CHARACTER ANY WAY YOU WANT! Don't tell me how to dress mine, don't tell bioware to make every female character regardless of battle role or personality wear a hijab because that's what YOU want. Dragon Age is not realistic in the slightest, from tiny skinny elves being physically stronger than big beefy Qunari, to magic, to the fact that no one ages or wears helmets or changes clothes so don't try an use "realism" as an excuse. Me and my character will dress how we want, in a way that suits us and *gasp!* that includes massive breasts, bleach blonde hair, and revealing clothes. We are people and we exist, don't try to exclude us from the game because we don't fit YOUR ideal.
There is so much variety of armor and clothing in DA that you can have it any way you want so let me have MY game how I want.
Strawman! I call strawman!
I haven't seen anyone say "you can't dress them this way," or "no one can be sexual", but that's the only point you can argue against so you imply that it's the only one being made. No one's trying to take away your right or your ability to make busty scantily clad women, we're just saying maybe let us make big donged scantily clad men and well armoured women too! Let us have powerfully built women and skinny little boytoys! The issue isn't the complete lack of realism, the reason realism is being brought up is because it's inequally applied. Men are given strong protective armour, women are given breast windows. Why are there so few arseless chaps available in Dragon Age?! You are arguing against no one here. These issues I raised got a lot better in DAII (the NPC armours were still a little more skimpy on the women than the men), but it's still not completely equal. That's what we want. Men and women to be equally sexualised and equally fleshed out as characters. For practicality to be as much a part of the women's designs as it is for the men's.
Just look at the title of the freaking thread. The op and others list a select few armors and characters (only Isabella, Morrigan, and Bethany, and with all three it fits their personality and two are mages so armor/coverage doesn't even matter) but whenever someone brings up women who are not sexualized like Wynne, Merril, Aveline, Ser Cauthrien, Marethari, Shale, Rikka (and she's a freaking prostitute) Orana, Anora, Branka, Hespith, Shianni, Lily, Meredith, any female guard or templar, Oriana, Isolde, Marty, any chantry priest, Leliana, the player if they chose to be, etc...the reply is "oh there are a
few minor examples of non sexualized women/armor."
People are acting like it's battle bikini rodeo and that bioware is so sexist for making a woman's revealing robe slightly more revealing than a man's revealing robe. Should there be more skimpy clothing/armor choices for men? Heck yes! But acting like there are no modest armor/clothing choices for women is untrue and doing a huge disservice to one of the only game companies that actually cares about women, LGBT, etc...
The arguments have been made that "it's so unrealistic for any armor to have molded boob plates because she would break her sternum so they should change them" in a game that is extremely unrealistic in almost every area. The word "oppression" has even been used. I'm sorry but saying that because a certain character has cleavage or that there is 1 (optional) armor that shows midriff on a woman it's
oppression is ridiculous.
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