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Could sexualization of female characters and their clothing be reduced?


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Mr.House wrote...

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Mr.House wrote...

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AresKeith wrote...

Rotward wrote...

@ Ares Miranda was all about being perfect, including her looks. Also, armor has no relevance in mass effect unless you build up inches of material between you and your enemy. It's not a sword and board game. You're being shot at by blasters, usually. Your main defense is a spherical shield.


Oh god I hate the weak shield and barrier arugments

Who needs the common sense of wearing light, medium, or heavy armor as extra protection for when those shields and barriers go down

Well, the armor doesn't actually provide any defense after the shields go down. bullets go right through it all. The choice to wear armor seems purely aesthetic, in that universe. 

Grunt does not use shields.

Krogan are waking tanks. And they use them in ME 3.

Brutes are krogan and turian combined, they are pure armor. Next.

That's a reaper hust. Does not count

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leaguer of one wrote...

That's a reaper hust. Does not count


:mellow::mellow::mellow:

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AresKeith wrote...



The armor in ME1 can atleast provide some protection

Nedium and Heavy armors.

Light armors are a big nope.

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leaguer of one wrote...
That's a reaper hust. Does not count


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LOL HUSK.........

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Dr Mew wrote...

But that's exactly the point I'm trying to make; Both genders are being exploited in different ways. Have you ever noticed it's the men in power or have the semblance of power who tend to have the affairs, attract all super models and have females swooning at their feet?

It happens with boybands, movie stars, celebrities, fictional characters (Twilight). They are merely tailoring the sexualization to the sex. They are doing it on the basis of; Women want that hunter/gatherer and Men just want sexy nymps.


I agree with the above post.

During the 20th century we made a huge leap by recognising sexism against women.
We can now make that even bigger leap by recognising sexism against men and women.

However, this thread is on a shaky ground.
Part of the problem (and also why I feel this thread will be locked down by the moderators) is that developers don't want to be preached at. Developers should have some room for creativity.

There is already enough social pressures tugging on Bioware.

There's the fans.
There's Electronic Arts.
There's the various demographics who play video games.
There's social/political groups.
There's people with various different idealogies.


Bioware just can't please everyone. It's not that they don't try, rather that it is simply impossible.

Which ever way you cut it, Bioware is going to do something that someone will find sexist.
Bioware does fall into much of the trappings of other development studios, but they are still greatly ahead of the rest.

Ahead in terms of representation of both races, genders, sexuality etc. Bioware does go out of its way to also make characters more indepth and not solely defined by their gender (though gender still plays a big role).

It's a tricky balancing act.
So bear that in mind.

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I'm a female gamer.

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AresKeith wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

That's a reaper hust. Does not count


:mellow::mellow::mellow:

Anything mondified by the reapers is going to be  bullet resistant. That's why they don't count.

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has David already done his

"All women in video games HAVE to be incredibly attractive"?



If not, inb4

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LiL Reapur wrote...

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That's a reaper hust. Does not count



LOL HUSK.........

Because a mudified corpes of an organic by a reaper being is some how not a husk?

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Steelcan wrote...

has David already done his

"All women in video games HAVE to be incredibly attractive"?



If not, inb4



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leaguer of one wrote...

LiL Reapur wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...
That's a reaper hust. Does not count



LOL HUSK.........

Because a mudified corpes of an organic by a reaper being is some how not a husk?


:mellow: so dull

Modifié par LiL Reapur, 18 janvier 2014 - 11:24 .


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Steelcan wrote...

has David already done his

"All women in video games HAVE to be incredibly attractive"?



If not, inb4

"All men in SE games HAVE to look like attractive woman"

Ifnot, inb4

=]

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Steelcan wrote...

has David already done his

"All women in video games HAVE to be incredibly attractive"?



If not, inb4


Nope, he's been gone for good week now.

We have only one thing to thank for that - Cheesecake.

Let's hope he's indisposed for a long spell.

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I'm not trying to say bioware should do this or that; It just really grinds my gears when people only perceive one side of over sexualization and it is usually for the gender that they belong to. Personally I couldn't care less about the subject, I just want 'mablakmaincharacters1'.

The Doctor has left the building!

Modifié par Dr Mew, 18 janvier 2014 - 11:29 .


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spirosz wrote...

I'm a female gamer.



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General Slotts wrote...

spirosz wrote...

I'm a female gamer.

:kissing:

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General Slotts wrote...

spirosz wrote...

I'm a female gamer.


More Captain Jack plz.

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This thread has strengthened my idea of having my first Inquisitor (male) walk around bare chested and with the tightest pants the game allows, all for the sake of being ironic.

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I'm a female gamer and BioWare's designs are not offensive to me in the LEAST. They run the gamut between certain skimpy mage robes with a slit all the way up to the hip to walking mailbox-like heavy armor where you can't tell the character's gender. You can choose what do dress your characters in. Also guess what? There are women out there that don't hate their bodies or their femininity and would choose to show cleavage, have right clothes, etc...in real life. There is already a wide choice of styles, so you dress your character how you want and don't try to force your Amish ideals on other people.


this ^


Agreed. 

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Ok srsly ? people are complaining about those things ? I don't see problem here, some character go half naked in battle and some fully armored wheres the problem in here ?
I like my characters to look sexy and bad ass but not manly like Aveline or Cassandra, I wear armors that I like simple as that. If I see armor that covers my whole body I won't wear it problem solved.
So I'm not saying yall cannot talk umm more like whine about small things like this, but I will say this - thread looks like some spoiled kids came crying about little sh** and being ungrateful that Bio does job for both side (ppl who like sexy warriors and ppl who like female warriors with big ass armors)

I bet rant on me will start but I do not care, safe your breath.

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Gwydden wrote...

This thread has strengthened my idea of having my first Inquisitor (male) walk around bare chested and with the tightest pants the game allows, all for the sake of being ironic.


This thread inspired me to play as a fat guy with a harem full of cheap women giving me sexual favors in return for not stabbing them.

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Agreed. Boob armour was especially bad in DAO. It's like they think people won't know your character is female unless you have brazen boob shapes all over.

And oh man, I laugh at people claiming Bioware doesn't sexualize women unnecessarily.

ShallowChasm wrote...

ag99 wrote...

Nefla wrote...

I'm
a female gamer and BioWare's designs are not offensive to me in the
LEAST. They run the gamut between certain skimpy mage robes with a slit
all the way up to the hip to walking mailbox-like heavy armor where you
can't tell the character's gender. You can choose what do dress your
characters in. Also guess what? There are women out there that don't
hate their bodies or their femininity
and would choose to show cleavage,
have right clothes, etc...in real life. There is already a wide choice
of styles, so you dress your character how you want and don't try to
force your Amish ideals on other people.


this ^


Agreed. 


What a disgusting thing to say.

Modifié par KiwiQuiche, 18 janvier 2014 - 11:35 .


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ShallowChasm wrote...

Another female gamer here, who also is completely comfortable with her sexuality and femininity, as well as that of others. People want to cry "sexist!" and "oppression!" because the women in their games show some skin, or have larger breasts, but the real oppression is expecting these women to be super conservative, hiding their bodies from those who find it "indecent". You don't like it? Don't play it. It's as simple as that.

As for those complaining about lack of realism, are you kidding me? It's a video game. A FANTASY VIDEO GAME. Never has realism ever been advocated, that is just something you think you are entitled to. Grow up. Neither Bioware nor anyone owes you anything. It's their game, and they'll do what they want. You won't see me complaining.


Wait, wait, wait.... a woman on the net who isn't screaming that I'm a sexist, bigoted mysogonist for not finding scantily clad women in a game offensive, on behalf of women, even though I'm a man?

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Gwydden wrote...

This thread has strengthened my idea of having my first Inquisitor (male) walk around bare chested and with the tightest pants the game allows, all for the sake of being ironic.


This thread inspired me to play as a fat guy with a harem full of cheap women giving me sexual favors in return for not stabbing them.


Role playing as David?

Hahahahahaha

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Gwydden wrote...

This thread has strengthened my idea of having my first Inquisitor (male) walk around bare chested and with the tightest pants the game allows, all for the sake of being ironic.


This thread inspired me to play as a fat guy with a harem full of cheap women giving me sexual favors in return for not stabbing them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vyaUUzgHfeM#t=39
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