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[cap and gown]

@Han Shot First: What about a Drell?

Modifié par cap and gown, 20 janvier 2014 - 05:50 .

[Shuidizi]

Looks are important. But I'm sure as long as the writing is good and the character is interesting, people would like it. I didn't think I would like Garrus romance so much when I first played as femshep because I don't consider him attractive. But towards the end I'm 100% satisfied by this relationship.

Any way female drell sounds awesome, sunset eyes that melts my heart is what I expect. Turian females are rather sexy IMO too. A Salarian female would have most potential story-wise with their special social status in their culture.

[Han Shot First]

cap and gown wrote...

@Han Shot First: What about a Drell?

They are probably a little too alien for me. Assuming the protagonist is human I'd most likely have him or her go for a human, Asari, or Quarian character instead.

Not that I'd have an issue with other players choosing the Drell.

[Clayless]

Drell women don't have breasts? Where did we learn that, Thane's romance or something? Anyone got a link?

[Coming0fShadows]

Han Shot First wrote...

besterisgood wrote...

Considering how many people liked Tali without seeing her face.. I would agree its all in the writing of the character, not so much the looks.

People liked Tali without seeing her face because from the knees to the neck she had a sexy body, and people just head canon'd something equally attractive under the mask. Just look at every piece of fanart ever made for unmasked Tali. About 95% are attractive. Had Tali looked as alien as say, the Salarians, most fans would have raged and/or switched to another LI.

To be clear I'm not picking on Talimancers for having appearance be one of the determining factors for who their player character ends up. That's probably true for most players. And its true for me.

On that note, I would not have the ME4 protagonist romance a Krogan, or a Salarian, or a Turian, ect. No matter how great the characters are I think all of the above species are a little too alien-looking, to the point that a romance arc with a human character becomes a little weird. An Asari or a Quarian would at this point probably be the only options I would consider for a human protagonist, as they both have enough human features that the attraction between the characters makes some sense.

Now if the protagonist was say a Turian...that would be different. In that case it would make more sense for the Turian to shack up with another Turian character.

I suppose youre right. I tend to mostly pay attention to their faces first, and Tali living in a suit her whole life i imagined something pretty That and her being like a kid when i first met her kept my mind from ever drifting down that line of thought.

[Coming0fShadows]

StreetMagic wrote...

Tali wasn't that much of a kid though. She is 22 starting in ME1 and only 7 years younger than Shepard (so is Jack). My parents have the same age difference.

Yeah i suppose, I was saying my first impressions playing me1 a long time ago. Im not trying to say im correct by any means, im more or less admitting my poor reasoning behind a not well thought out post of mine.

[von uber]

StreetMagic wrote...

My only really wish is they hire more female writers and less old, fat, nerd outcasts to create romances. Or at the very least, anyone married or who actually gets laid.

Crudely,  but succinctly, put.

[javeart]

Mcfly616 wrote...

No. I wish they'd approach it the same way they did in ME1. With a little more seriousness and believability. You know, before they caved in to creepy fanboy requests. Fan service is a detriment to creativity in any medium. I'm sorry, but Tali and Garrus should drop dead shortly after insertion. Speaking of insertion, how convenient that cosmic events have blessed humanity by making completely alien genitalia combatable with our own. What's next, we gonna have the option to have a guys-night-out, and bring all the male squaddies out to the "Krogan-Show"?

I'd say it is as convenient as Liara (in ME1) being basically a human female... and yet your realism-meter didn't explode or anything, it seems 

That said (and a little bit OT, sorry)  I've always been curious about what is it that makes an alien romanceable... I mean, Garrus and Thane (it's easy to see why Tali and of course Liara are romanceable)... I'm very aware of the awkwardness of a just asimple kiss scene between fshep and Garrus, and yet, I don't mind it at all... In the other hand, I could never pick  Wrex or Mordin for my fshep, and I really can't explain why... always thought the voice might had something to do with it, but it doesn't seem enough... Or, who knows, maybe if I was given the option to romance Wrex or Mordin I 'd try it just the same and end up thinking it's just fine...

[huntrrz]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Speaking of insertion, how convenient that cosmic events have blessed humanity by making completely alien genitalia combatable with our own.

<shrug>Form follows function.  Similar evolutionary pressures result in similar designs - upright bipeds with stereoscopic vision...  Similar plumping isn't that farfetched given that. And there are enough counter-examples of non-compatible species to justify the 'coincidences'.  (We don 't know how 'similar' Krogan or Salarians are, only that both species reproduce sexually and that Krogan have testicles.)

In any case, similar plumbing is not necessary for two individuals of different species from being intimate (although I'm sure the individuals would prefer it).

[Karlone123]

It would be strange to find what is physically attractive about a turian or a drell, But it tends to be more about noticing the race differences and what your thoughts are on them. I'm all for more diversed races for romance, even if it is a turian or drell. Humans go start to feel a bit stale for a while, I never romanced Ashley.

Modifié par Karlone123, 21 janvier 2014 - 12:42 .

[NeroonWilliams]

Mcfly616 wrote...

No. I wish they'd approach it the same way they did in ME1. With a little more seriousness and believability. You know, before they caved in to creepy fanboy requests. Fan service is a detriment to creativity in any medium. I'm sorry, but Tali and Garrus should drop dead shortly after insertion. Speaking of insertion, how convenient that cosmic events have blessed humanity by making completely alien genitalia combatable with our own. What's next, we gonna have the option to have a guys-night-out, and bring all the male squaddies out to the "Krogan-Show"?

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Why exactly should Tali or Garrus die because of sexual contact?  Levo-amino acids aren't toxins to them, they are simply inert and unable to be digested or used by their body-chemistries.  If it WERE as toxic to them as you are trying to claim here, Garrus and all of the other Turians out in the galaxy would be rather sickly from all of the day to day contact they had with levo-aminos.

But even if they were to cause discomfort to them, there are such things as condoms, which would go a long way towards reducing that discomfort.  Considering that Mordin makes no specific reference to this when giving his interspecies talks, I think it's likely they aren't needed.

As to the convenience of genitalia, you may be more right there.  There is a wide variety of methodology even on our own planet, but it does always come down to insert A into B.

To be honest, because of how Asari reproduction is accomplished, I'm more surprised that THEY have a recepticle for insertion than any of the other species in the galaxy who reproduce in a sexual manner.

[cap and gown]

NeroonWilliams wrote...

As to the convenience of genitalia, you may be more right there.  There is a wide variety of methodology even on our own planet, but it does always come down to insert A into B.

Not always. Many species have the female lay eggs, then the male squirts sperm on them. There is one species of fish where the male is basically a penis with a fin that inserts its entire body into the female on a permanent basis. (I have have a picture of Padok Wiks contemplating that.)

Edit: or consider plants that throw sperm (pollen) out into the air hoping it will eventually find a stamen.

Modifié par cap and gown, 21 janvier 2014 - 07:29 .

[Grizzly46]

Shuidizi wrote...

Looks are important. But I'm sure as long as the writing is good and the character is interesting, people would like it. I didn't think I would like Garrus romance so much when I first played as femshep because I don't consider him attractive. But towards the end I'm 100% satisfied by this relationship.

Any way female drell sounds awesome, sunset eyes that melts my heart is what I expect. Turian females are rather sexy IMO too. A Salarian female would have most potential story-wise with their special social status in their culture.

Yup. Which makes me wonder, how does one species consider another attractive? I had a hard time finding the female turians I've seen (a grand total of 2) even remotely attractive, but I can kind of understand why Thane became a romancing favourite with the ladies (I'm too straight to actually get real bearings here). Tali must have shared enough physical traits with humans to actually be attracted to a "handsome captain" (or something like that) like Shepard. The asari are a no-brainer, and they were created just because the game needed blue space babes for the 14 year old virgins Bioware thought would be the majority of the gamer base.

[TheMyron]

johnnythao89 wrote...

Still disappointed there was no Wrex Romance for FemShep. One of the things I'll never forgive Bioware for! D-:<

Grunt may not have experience, but he has youth...

[javeart]

the thing is, do you need to find a character atractive to pursue the romance? Because, I don't: I don't find any of the options avaliable to fshep atractive, but I do it because a romance always adds intensity and drama to the story and to get the extra content. Still, I think there's some kind of barrier between who is romanceable and who is not, that has to do with certain similarity to humanity... but what are the important similarities? I mean, do you think it'd be possible to make a vorcha romanceable?

[KaiserShep]

A vorcha LI is best suited for demon fetishists.

[Grizzly46]

javeart wrote...

the thing is, do you need to find a character atractive to pursue the romance? Because, I don't: I don't find any of the options avaliable to fshep atractive, but I do it because a romance always adds intensity and drama to the story and to get the extra content. Still, I think there's some kind of barrier between who is romanceable and who is not, that has to do with certain similarity to humanity... but what are the important similarities? I mean, do you think it'd be possible to make a vorcha romanceable?

Well... Looks IS an important part of attraction, since that's the first we get to know about another person, and we never get a second chance to give a first impression.

All that said however, I have always felt kind of iffy with the romances in Mass Effect. Partly because they aren't that well done, but also for realistic reasons, since it wouldn't be professional to try to get into a subordinate's pants (which Ashley correctly points out in ME1 and then happily ignores one conversation later, because romance writing in ME1 = Very, incredibly bad). And if there is one thing Shepard is, it's being a soldier through and through. So apart from the bad writing, Mass Effect is one game I'm very happy to ignore romances in.

[GreatBlueHeron]

LagoonaLahaana wrote...

GreatBlueHeron wrote...

Male players aren't the only ones who choose female romance options, OP.

My title (for male players) is confusing; I want male player opinions. What I want to know is if male players are alright with a female alien (non-human looking) as a romance.

Well, this gay woman would be okay with a non-human looking female alien.  Just wondering why you want only dude opinions.

Modifié par GreatBlueHeron, 21 janvier 2014 - 12:37 .

[von uber]

Interesting. As a straight male I have never played as manshep, but I would see no reason not to go with an alien if I did play as one.
I find the femshep romances are very poor anyway (I really can't relate to thane for some reason) compared to the manshep. And you are right, Manshep's LIs are all pretty much variations on a human also. Hmm never considered it like that.