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[dreamgazer]

a) I adore your name, MayonnaiseNipple.

Thank you for banging all that out.

c) It's basically a paragon's wet dream, and completely shats on the renegade path. FABULOUS.

[Steelcan]

...its even worse than my cursory glance suggested

[TheMyron]

Chashan wrote...

Where is your avatar from?

[Nightwriter]

Sweet. Cliffnotes.

Only likes really:

MayonnaiseNipple wrote...

-Your EMS effects whether or not Shepard dies and the relays are destroyed. Shepard can survive EVERY ending.

-No more God Child, replaced by new Vigil V.I.

-No more Stargazer Scene.

[TheMyron]

I agree, whether the red beam destroys just the Reapers or all Synthetics should also have been decided by one's EMS score...

[AlanC9]

CronoDragoon wrote..

This sounds like the immature ramblings of a butthurt Destroy fan.

Why should today be any different from any other day?

[Han Shot First]

Blazebuddy wrote...

Oh jesus christ why exactly is there a full length romance with Khalisah al-Jilani?

Why?

In case you get tired of romancing her face with your fist?

[Iakus]

Nightwriter wrote...

Sweet. Cliffnotes.

Only likes really:

MayonnaiseNipple wrote...

-Your EMS effects whether or not Shepard dies and the relays are destroyed. Shepard can survive EVERY ending.

-No more God Child, replaced by new Vigil V.I.

-No more Stargazer Scene.

Three things that probably would have thoroughly defanged the anti-ending crowd.

[Nightwriter]

iakus wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

Sweet. Cliffnotes.

Only likes really:

MayonnaiseNipple wrote...

-Your EMS effects whether or not Shepard dies and the relays are destroyed. Shepard can survive EVERY ending.

-No more God Child, replaced by new Vigil V.I.

-No more Stargazer Scene.

Three things that probably would have thoroughly defanged the anti-ending crowd.

Sure would've thoroughly defanged me.

However the rest...



Srsly reading that has me feeling sorry for Synthesis even. It is turned into the Objectively Horrible Thing To Do option and low/high EMS sounds like it has no impact at all.

Maybe "fixing" Synthesis ought to have involved removing some of the splinters afflicting it rather than, y'know, turning it into the "lobotomize everyone" option that no one would have any reason for picking ever. Especially considering Control has also been tarred with a bad brush so that Destroy looks like the only right option.

[DeinonSlayer]

I flipped through it. I actually like the Khalisah stuff, but I'm not thrilled by the idea of one's epilogue being dictated by whether they're 85% paragon or not. This is supposed to be an RPG, we make our own decisions and face the consequences. I'd rather not mindlessly poke whatever happens to be at the top of the wheel through the whole damn trilogy, though it seems there are a lot of people who enjoy doing that.

[dreamgazer]

I mean, 85% Paragon is a LOT of Paragon, folks.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 22 janvier 2014 - 05:06 .

[CronoDragoon]

Han Shot First wrote...
In case you get tired of romancing her face with your fist?

Unlikely.

[Steelcan]

dreamgazer wrote...

I mean, 85% Paragon is a LOT of Paragon, folks.

I'd agree, but I got where I am on the scale pretty easily...


Is more a bar of red than anything else

[dreamgazer]

Steelcan wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

I mean, 85% Paragon is a LOT of Paragon, folks.

I'd agree, but I got where I am on the scale pretty easily...


Is more a bar of red than anything else

All of my Shepards would be forced to deal with Synthesis or Refuse, Paragades and Renegons alike. 

[Steelcan]

dreamgazer wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

I mean, 85% Paragon is a LOT of Paragon, folks.

I'd agree, but I got where I am on the scale pretty easily...


Is more a bar of red than anything else

All of my Shepards would be forced to deal with Synthesis or Refuse, Paragades and Renegons alike. 

My FemShep would have to

[Zazzerka]

I'm proud to say that my most recent "Paragon" Shepard has a bar-and-a-half full of Renegade juice.

Which left him unable to resolve the catfight. "Paragade Strong" my arse.

[Chashan]

TheMyron wrote...

Where is your avatar from?

Armored Trooper VOTOMS, mecha-franchise which first aired some 30 years ago. Expect adequate quality of the time should you want to watch it from the beginning...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

I flipped through it. I actually like the Khalisah stuff, but I'm not thrilled by the idea of one's epilogue being dictated by whether they're 85% paragon or not. This is supposed to be an RPG, we make our own decisions and face the consequences. I'd rather not mindlessly poke whatever happens to be at the top of the wheel through the whole damn trilogy, though it seems there are a lot of people who enjoy doing that.

The finale being a consequence of the sum of those actions sounds like it pretty much fits that, though.

Of course, tying that to the morality-meter is somewhat off...Might as well rework EMS towards that and not screw it up by assigning improbable strengths to a lone trooper in comparison to a whole fleet.

[Nightwriter]

dreamgazer wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

I mean, 85% Paragon is a LOT of Paragon, folks.

I'd agree, but I got where I am on the scale pretty easily...


Is more a bar of red than anything else

All of my Shepards would be forced to deal with Synthesis or Refuse, Paragades and Renegons alike. 

What, u no like? But having a balanced P/R surely means you want to lobotomize the galaxy.

Bah, I should prolly dial it back, I haven't even read it yet, just someone else's summary.

[Iakus]

Nightwriter wrote...

Srsly reading that has me feeling sorry for Synthesis even. It is turned into the Objectively Horrible Thing To Do option and low/high EMS sounds like it has no impact at all.

Maybe "fixing" Synthesis ought to have involved removing some of the splinters afflicting it rather than, y'know, turning it into the "lobotomize everyone" option that no one would have any reason for picking ever. Especially considering Control has also been tarred with a bad brush so that Destroy looks like the only right option.

Yeah, SSynthsis doesn't have a lot going for it.  And yet it seems somehow less horrible than Bioware's vision of it.  Perhaps because it actually isn't portrayed as the super-happy-fun-ending where everyone is super-happy and having fun, and never ever dies, etc.

I also agree that I dislike how Control is expressly renegade and Destroy is expressly paragon.  but I actually like the turnaround done with Control.  Where the High EMS version goes horribly wrong, and the Low EMS version actually feels like an Ultimate Sacrifice to save the galaxy.  

I mean, as long as I still had the High EMS Destroy to fall back on, I'd actually want to try those endings, to see what they were like.

[CronoDragoon]

Chashan wrote...

Of course, tying that to the morality-meter is somewhat off...Might as well rework EMS towards that and not screw it up by assigning improbable strengths to a lone trooper in comparison to a whole fleet.

The morality meter became obsolete once Reputation was introduced. Unless of course you find Femshep sexy with red eyes and scars................aaand I'm back.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 22 janvier 2014 - 05:17 .

[CronoDragoon]

iakus wrote...
I also agree that I dislike how Control is expressly renegade and Destroy is expressly paragon.  but I actually like the turnaround done with Control.  Where the High EMS version goes horribly wrong, and the Low EMS version actually feels like an Ultimate Sacrifice to save the galaxy. 

It doesn't make sense to punish players for playing more content in a game.

[Iakus]

Chashan wrote...

The finale being a consequence of the sum of those actions sounds like it pretty much fits that, though.

Of course, tying that to the morality-meter is somewhat off...Might as well rework EMS towards that and not screw it up by assigning improbable strengths to a lone trooper in comparison to a whole fleet.

I could see which endings being unlocked being a result of what War Assets you have specifically collected.  With the possiblity of having all, some, or none available at the end, rather than going strictly by how many blue or red dialogue options Shepard had taken.

Might even give players a reason to scan planets 

[dreamgazer]

iakus wrote...

I mean, as long as I still had the High EMS Destroy to fall back on, I'd actually want to try those endings, to see what they were like.

So, your canon Shepard has above an 85% Paragon rating?

[CronoDragoon]

dreamgazer wrote...

So, your canon Shepard has above an 85% Paragon rating?

You don't want to know mine, bro. I'm an up-righter if there ever was one. Except the Renegade interrupts. Too good.