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[Nightwriter]

In ME3V, if Shepard did not complete Jacob's loyalty mission in ME2, or if it resulted in Jacob's father committing suicide or leaving Captain Taylor to be torn apart by his savage crew, Jacob will be captured by Cerberus.

But if Shepard did complete Jacob's loyalty mission in ME2 and handed Captain Taylor over to the Alliance, his storyline proceeds exactly as scripted in ME3. And sorry, fem-Shep, you still can't re-romance Jacob.

Modifié par Nightwriter, 22 janvier 2014 - 06:10 .

[Argentoid]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

The ending is basically IT with MEHEM... .Hahaha, I love it. I can see why many BSN scrubs don't tho. But meh....

Better than what we got.

Nope, especially with that rigid abomination of a choice-free morality system. 

And why, exactly, are we "scrubs"?

Cause you asked why you're a scrub... That is scrub material right there. Only a scrub would wonder why they r so scrub.

Chillax bro, ME3 sucked. The guy who wrote this knows it. BioWare knows it. You may or may not know it.


But rest assured, it was a turd.

























gazer, I'm kidding around. I'm mostly here for entertainment purposes. I was kinda serious about the little Ilos convo we had tho. But mostly here for the lulz.

Ah... Neon. You never cease to amaze me.

[NeonFlux117]

Argentoid wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

The ending is basically IT with MEHEM... .Hahaha, I love it. I can see why many BSN scrubs don't tho. But meh....

Better than what we got.

Nope, especially with that rigid abomination of a choice-free morality system. 

And why, exactly, are we "scrubs"?

Cause you asked why you're a scrub... That is scrub material right there. Only a scrub would wonder why they r so scrub.

Chillax bro, ME3 sucked. The guy who wrote this knows it. BioWare knows it. You may or may not know it.


But rest assured, it was a turd.

























gazer, I'm kidding around. I'm mostly here for entertainment purposes. I was kinda serious about the little Ilos convo we had tho. But mostly here for the lulz.

Ah... Neon. You never cease to amaze me.

www.youtube.com/watch

[Excella Gionne]

It seems this story still has dem major flaws!

[DeinonSlayer]

How exactly does snuffing Robert Taylor cause Jacob to be processed into the Ivory Mook Brigade? Seems like an arbitrary reward for renegades.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 22 janvier 2014 - 06:25 .

[Nightwriter]

Wow. All it has for Miranda is a detailed description of a new "sexy spacer" outfit it gives her. There is a drawing.



It adds two lines of romance dialogue, both of which are about the oufit. Her "story arc" in ME3 is not changed.

First you be dissin' my Jacobmancers, now this, I don't know...

Well. It does say changes made to characters might not be limited to the section I'm in. Maybe it gets better.

Primarch Victus is made female. Interesting.

[Argentoid]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Argentoid wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

The ending is basically IT with MEHEM... .Hahaha, I love it. I can see why many BSN scrubs don't tho. But meh....

Better than what we got.

Nope, especially with that rigid abomination of a choice-free morality system. 

And why, exactly, are we "scrubs"?

Cause you asked why you're a scrub... That is scrub material right there. Only a scrub would wonder why they r so scrub.

Chillax bro, ME3 sucked. The guy who wrote this knows it. BioWare knows it. You may or may not know it.


But rest assured, it was a turd.





gazer, I'm kidding around. I'm mostly here for entertainment purposes. I was kinda serious about the little Ilos convo we had tho. But mostly here for the lulz.

Ah... Neon. You never cease to amaze me.

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Argentoid, 22 janvier 2014 - 06:34 .

[NeonFlux117]

Argentoid wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Argentoid wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

The ending is basically IT with MEHEM... .Hahaha, I love it. I can see why many BSN scrubs don't tho. But meh....

Better than what we got.

Nope, especially with that rigid abomination of a choice-free morality system. 

And why, exactly, are we "scrubs"?

Cause you asked why you're a scrub... That is scrub material right there. Only a scrub would wonder why they r so scrub.

Chillax bro, ME3 sucked. The guy who wrote this knows it. BioWare knows it. You may or may not know it.


But rest assured, it was a turd.





gazer, I'm kidding around. I'm mostly here for entertainment purposes. I was kinda serious about the little Ilos convo we had tho. But mostly here for the lulz.

Ah... Neon. You never cease to amaze me.

www.youtube.com/watch

Good. How I feels when I come to the BSN data hive....

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par NeonFlux117, 22 janvier 2014 - 06:43 .

[Nightwriter]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

How exactly does snuffing Robert Taylor cause Jacob to be processed into the Ivory Mook Brigade? Seems like an arbitrary reward for renegades.

Apparently if his dad dies, it somehow through magic causes Cerberus to catch him.

Honestly, in this version leaving Jacob's dad to die seems like the better call. Jacob's death arc sounds more meaningful than the scenario where he lives. I like the "on the run from Cerberus" theme his storyline takes on more than the Brynn/family man stuff, at least.

If Ronald snuffed it, Jacob sends you an email which takes you to an apartment on the Citadel.

Scene:

Shepard enters the apartment.

Shepard
"Jacob?"

Shepard notices a flashing light on a computer terminal.

Shepard activates the terminal.

Audio log plays.

Cerberus Trooper
"Tell us what we want to know."

Jacob
(pained)
"I’m not telling you sh*t."

Cerberus Trooper
"We have orders to kill you, Jacob. Start talking."

Jacob spits at the Cerberus Trooper.

Jacob
"F*ck you!"

A gunshot can be heard.

Audio log cuts.

Shepard
(angry)
"Damn it."
(somber)
"I’m sorry, Jacob."

^ There is also unique romance dialogue for femShep at that point.

As far as I can tell, you don't see Jacob again until Sanctuary, where you find that he's been transformed into one of those Cerberus troopers, a powerful one.

You defeat him, but in his last moments before death he's himself again and tries to warn Shepard that Sanctuary is a trap. Again, unique romance content for femShep here.

Your crew react both to seeing Jacob huskified and to seeing him die. No awkwardness about what Jacob names his kid and no comments about how the Normandy is my only love. I'd have taken this.

[Argentoid]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Argentoid wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Argentoid wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

The ending is basically IT with MEHEM... .Hahaha, I love it. I can see why many BSN scrubs don't tho. But meh....

Better than what we got.

Nope, especially with that rigid abomination of a choice-free morality system. 

And why, exactly, are we "scrubs"?

Cause you asked why you're a scrub... That is scrub material right there. Only a scrub would wonder why they r so scrub.

Chillax bro, ME3 sucked. The guy who wrote this knows it. BioWare knows it. You may or may not know it.


But rest assured, it was a turd.





gazer, I'm kidding around. I'm mostly here for entertainment purposes. I was kinda serious about the little Ilos convo we had tho. But mostly here for the lulz.

Ah... Neon. You never cease to amaze me.

www.youtube.com/watch

Good. How I feels when I come to the BSN data hive....

www.youtube.com/watch

In my case, it's pretty much like...

this

Modifié par Argentoid, 22 janvier 2014 - 07:01 .

[TheMyron]

txgoldrush wrote...

TheMyron wrote...

I agree, whether the red beam destroys just the Reapers or all Synthetics should also have been decided by one's EMS score...

No it shouldn't...it would break theme.

Even on high EMS, victory isn't without cost.

Indeed, the cost was the amount of work it took to get EMS that high.

[Hazegurl]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I find it funny how playing a Shepard who destroys the genophage cure, destroys the rachni, and destroys the geth... ends up getting locked out of the Destroy ending. Yeah, that makes total sense.

Wow. You would think that a Shepard who likes destorying races would be all for destorying another race at the end. According to this guy, nope. lol!

[NeonFlux117]

Argentoid wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Argentoid wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Argentoid wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

The ending is basically IT with MEHEM... .Hahaha, I love it. I can see why many BSN scrubs don't tho. But meh....

Better than what we got.

Nope, especially with that rigid abomination of a choice-free morality system. 

And why, exactly, are we "scrubs"?

Cause you asked why you're a scrub... That is scrub material right there. Only a scrub would wonder why they r so scrub.

Chillax bro, ME3 sucked. The guy who wrote this knows it. BioWare knows it. You may or may not know it.


But rest assured, it was a turd.





gazer, I'm kidding around. I'm mostly here for entertainment purposes. I was kinda serious about the little Ilos convo we had tho. But mostly here for the lulz.

Ah... Neon. You never cease to amaze me.

www.youtube.com/watch

Good. How I feels when I come to the BSN data hive....

www.youtube.com/watch

In my case, it's pretty much like...

this

Haha, that's pretty good. BSN... The gift that keeps giving. Few things in life are certain. Death, taxes... And BSN supplying lulz after lulz.

[Argentoid]

Nightwriter wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

How exactly does snuffing Robert Taylor cause Jacob to be processed into the Ivory Mook Brigade? Seems like an arbitrary reward for renegades.

Apparently if his dad dies, it somehow through magic causes Cerberus to catch him.

Honestly, in this version leaving Jacob's dad to die seems like the better call. Jacob's death arc sounds more meaningful than the scenario where he lives. I like the "on the run from Cerberus" theme his storyline takes on more than the Brynn/family man stuff, at least.

If Ronald snuffed it, Jacob sends you an email which takes you to an apartment on the Citadel.

Scene:

Shepard enters the apartment.

Shepard
"Jacob?"

Shepard notices a flashing light on a computer terminal.

Shepard activates the terminal.

Audio log plays.

Cerberus Trooper
"Tell us what we want to know."

Jacob
(pained)
"I’m not telling you sh*t."

Cerberus Trooper
"We have orders to kill you, Jacob. Start talking."

Jacob spits at the Cerberus Trooper.

Jacob
"F*ck you!"

A gunshot can be heard.

Audio log cuts.

Shepard
(angry)
"Damn it."
(somber)
"I’m sorry, Jacob."

^ There is also unique romance dialogue for femShep at that point.

As far as I can tell, you don't see Jacob again until Sanctuary, where you find that he's been transformed into one of those Cerberus troopers, a powerful one.

You defeat him, but in his last moments before death he's himself again and tries to warn Shepard that Sanctuary is a trap. Again, unique romance content for femShep here.

Your crew react both to seeing Jacob huskified and to seeing him die. No awkwardness about what Jacob names his kid and no comments about how the Normandy is my only love. I'd have taken this.

Why would some Cerberus kidnappers kill Jacob if later they are going to huskify it. You can't turn someone into a husk after getting killed. Also, it would be pointless to just shoot someone who was already surrounded by Cerberus, and about to surrender anyway.

Now, what the hell would they want to know? Jacob didn't have any important information. This guy who wrote this stuff didn't imply it. 

He could just have killed Jacob just for the sake of a "loose end" kind of thing.

Don't kill it, dummy. Do it just like in Grissom Academy.

Modifié par Argentoid, 22 janvier 2014 - 07:15 .

[Dean_the_Young]

Hell, Jacob would have made a much better candidate for Grissom Academy than Jack.

'We have two ex-terrorists applying for teaching our young children. One one hand, we have a traumatized, emotionally unstable, uneducated, hyper-violent murderer and drug user sought after by half a dozen major races for the purpose of putting her to justice and behind bars. On the other hand, we have a psychologically healthy, educated, highly commended veteran noted for his maturity and emotional stability and previously sought after by Alliance special forces as a member.

But Jack is a stronger on absolute terms, so let's go with that because that's clearly how teaching others works.''

Think of the children indeed.

[Fixers0]

Interesting , certainly not my taste but still very interesting 

[AlanC9]

chemiclord wrote...
Honestly, the fact that the Catalyst appears for the first time 10 minutes before the end of the game and presents the ending choice was jarring to a good number of players; and the small hint of foreshadowing it got was not enough for them to be comfortable with it.

The idea that what the Catalyst said could have been more readily accepted had it come from Harbinger, for example, is not out of the blue.

I see your point. I was expecting to be jarred, and I kinda like left-field stuff anyway, so I'm not very sensitive to the issue.

How do you feel about his replacing the Catalyst with another Ksad Ishan VI? (It's amazing how lousy the guy's memory for lore is in this section, but most of that can be repaired.) It seems to introduce an even worse problem than the Catalyst supposedly did;  why didn't the damn thing activate centuries ago? Though having the options -- if this version actually had options -- come from a friendly source would have cleared up some of the sillier objections.

Modifié par AlanC9, 22 janvier 2014 - 08:14 .

[AlanC9]

Hazegurl wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I find it funny how playing a Shepard who destroys the genophage cure, destroys the rachni, and destroys the geth... ends up getting locked out of the Destroy ending. Yeah, that makes total sense.

Wow. You would think that a Shepard who likes destorying races would be all for destorying another race at the end. According to this guy, nope. lol!

Remember, Destroy = Good, Control = Evil. Says so right there in the manifesto. Shepard's only destroying races because he's evil, so of course such a Shepard wants to pick Control... right?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Great, an ending where your choices don't matter but the railroad does. The ending would get a Hitler meme.

[AlexMBrennan]

We have two ex-terrorists applying for teaching our young children. One one hand, we have a traumatized, emotionally unstable, uneducated, hyper-violent murderer and drug user sought after by half a dozen major races for the purpose of putting her to justice and behind bars. On the other hand, we have a psychologically healthy, educated, highly commended veteran noted for his maturity and emotional stability and previously sought after by Alliance special forces as a member.

But Jack is a stronger on absolute terms, so let's go with that because that's clearly how teaching others works.''

The way teaching works is that you need a teacher who has some understanding of the subject; it is not inconceivable that Jacob would not be qualified to teach "Superbiotics 301" to a class of children with essentially freeform magic powers (Gillian in Deception)

[wolfsite]

I've been going around different threads about this and been seeing a lot of words being brought up again when talking about Mass Effect fans:  "Entitled"  "Whiners" "immature".  Some even called ME fans pathetic for not being able to move on where other game series have had just as bad or worse endings yet those fanbases just got on with it without having to "whine" about how there lives are destroyed by 5 minutes of controversial material.

Many even called this Pompous since fans act like anything they write is automatically better than what Bioware writes even though fans have the advantage of knowing how to manipulate others for a response or since they already have completed work they could change where Bioware did not.

Can't believe how bad of a reputation the ME fanbase still has.


Note: I'm just talking about what I have seen online, non of these are my own opinions.

[alchemist42]

Only read the Earth part onwards, some nice changes there.

Final part of the Citadel was also excellent apart from the final choices being decided by your Paragon/Renegade scores. I’d only ever choose Destroy regardless of whether I was really badass renegade or other mix,  the reapers are the enemy, you’ve spent years fighting and wanting them destroyed, to hell with doing a deal with them control or otherwise.  As for synthesise, total anathema to anyone with a soul, a fate worse than death.

Whatever, the final choice should always be yours.

[Ieldra]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I find it funny how playing a Shepard who destroys the genophage cure, destroys the rachni, and destroys the geth... ends up getting locked out of the Destroy ending. Yeah, that makes total sense.

Wow. You would think that a Shepard who likes destorying races would be all for destorying another race at the end. According to this guy, nope. lol!

If you haven't noticed, in this rewrite Destroy is canonically the Paragon choice, in total disregard of the fact that it's based on 100% pure Renegade reasoning - sacrificing a part of your forces to make sure the enemy is DEAD. ROFL, I can't take this guy seriously, but in the face of that dogma, locking that Shepard out of Destroy makes perfect sense.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 22 janvier 2014 - 02:11 .