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[NeonFlux117]

Karlone123 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 feels so disconnected from the Mass Effect universe and lore itself, it is so alienating which the ME team doesn't want to recognise. I'm not going to get into a rant about ME3 cause it has all been said before. But I am going to have to read the 400 word blueprint.

Damage control. BioWare and EA know they crap'd the bed with ME3. They're hoping fans forget.

Wash rinse repeat. Wash rinse repeat.

Same with BF and Dice.

This is what EA does.


EA. Challenge Everything......

except our policies and buisness practices.

Modifié par NeonFlux117, 21 janvier 2014 - 01:07 .

[FlamingBoy]

dreamgazer wrote...

Karlone123 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 feels so disconnected from the Mass Effect universe and lore itself, it is so alienating which the ME team doesn't want to recognise.

They supported the game for a year with several single-player DLCs and spent a ton of money on an extended cut for that game's ending. Pretty sure they're just fine with "recognizing" it, even if the Montreal team isn't going in the direction of a direct sequel. 

To be fair the extended cut was torn out of them kicking and screaming the entire way. As for dlc, its standard bioware (and by extension EA) MO.

[dreamgazer]

FlamingBoy wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Karlone123 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 feels so disconnected from the Mass Effect universe and lore itself, it is so alienating which the ME team doesn't want to recognise.

They supported the game for a year with several single-player DLCs and spent a ton of money on an extended cut for that game's ending. Pretty sure they're just fine with "recognizing" it, even if the Montreal team isn't going in the direction of a direct sequel. 

To be fair the extended cut was torn out of them kicking and screaming the entire way. As for dlc, its standard bioware (and by extension EA) MO.

Yes, they sure seem like they were "kicking and screaming".  

And if BioWare and/or EA thought it was a lost cause, they'd cut their losses and run (DA2's abandoned DLC is proof of that). 

[JamesFaith]

TheMyron wrote...

Most of ME3's defenders are people who didn't even start at the beginning with ME1. Which is why I consider their opinions invalid.

Another "most" argument based on... what exactly? Sixth sense, crystal ball or chicken entrails?

[SwobyJ]

Heh. Well. This is... this.

[Chashan]

iakus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

iakus wrote...
Interesting that High EMS Control is actually very very bad, worse than Low EMS control in fact.

Interesting in the "wow, that really sucks" way?

Very much so, yes.  Shows that mere survival is indeed not always enough

Gets credit for being loud and clear on what's going down, though.

'sides, dat coat...rather put Femshep in that as well and we got something.


On the whole, skimming through it, one can say that yes, it is very corny in places, both script and sketches. It's got some good ideas too, though: content for Morinth beyond a renamed Banshee, presenting a different scenario in case the Queen gets gassed in ME1...

[Iakus]

EntropicAngel wrote...

I just saw a glut of news stories about this.

I just want to congratulate the writer on the re-write starting with an unabashed more-fan-service-than-Asari sex scene with a shirtless Garrus. Complete with concept art.

At least he's being up front about it: This is shameless fan fiction you needn't take seriously.

That has got to be the most backhanded compilment ever

[FlamingBoy]

dreamgazer wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Karlone123 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 feels so disconnected from the Mass Effect universe and lore itself, it is so alienating which the ME team doesn't want to recognise.

They supported the game for a year with several single-player DLCs and spent a ton of money on an extended cut for that game's ending. Pretty sure they're just fine with "recognizing" it, even if the Montreal team isn't going in the direction of a direct sequel. 

To be fair the extended cut was torn out of them kicking and screaming the entire way. As for dlc, its standard bioware (and by extension EA) MO.

Yes, they sure seem like they were "kicking and screaming".  

And if BioWare and/or EA thought it was a lost cause, they'd cut their losses and run (DA2's abandoned DLC is proof of that). 

Well they weren't exactly the opposite of "kicking and screaming" it took a month of rage (about 3 press releases, and 100 insulting articles) for the extended cut to even be announced , hence its more of a fan achievement than biowares generosity.

Its really how you percieve the manner and since you and I are on the opposite sides of the bias spectrum I can see why you percieve it that way (as I am sure you can understand my perspective)

As for dlc, there isn't a game alive, lost cause or not, that ea will not dlc into oblivion.

Edited: For really bad spelling on my part.

Modifié par FlamingBoy, 21 janvier 2014 - 02:54 .

[Clayless]

FlamingBoy wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Childs Play weren't informaned of that, EA didn't have their permission.

Fate of Carmine and Rock Band were similar to charity drives, you donate to charity and you get a vote on Carmine and some DLC, the 3rd cause wasn't a Childs Play thing, instead being split among 3 charities.

Call bull all you want, but it's right there in your articles.

Yeah I call bull and double standards. You go downlike a batsman on the fans because they are "USING CHILDREN" and when companies do it there are excuses and conditions that makes it "totally different". When reality it is the same, they are using charity for their financial wealth.

People have been using childs play (and other charities) for years and they will continue using for the sake of their own personal gains, the difference here is the fans are using it the system the corporations created.... and god knows they don't like that.

Try as you might to make them the same, it's right there in your articles. I even pointed out the differences, it couldn't be more obvious if I tried.

But I doubt it'll get through your delusions that they're somehow the same, despite being completely different.

[FlamingBoy]

Robosexual wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Childs Play weren't informaned of that, EA didn't have their permission.

Fate of Carmine and Rock Band were similar to charity drives, you donate to charity and you get a vote on Carmine and some DLC, the 3rd cause wasn't a Childs Play thing, instead being split among 3 charities.

Call bull all you want, but it's right there in your articles.

Yeah I call bull and double standards. You go downlike a batsman on the fans because they are "USING CHILDREN" and when companies do it there are excuses and conditions that makes it "totally different". When reality it is the same, they are using charity for their financial wealth.

People have been using childs play (and other charities) for years and they will continue using for the sake of their own personal gains, the difference here is the fans are using it the system the corporations created.... and god knows they don't like that.

Try as you might to make them the same, it's right there in your articles. I even pointed out the differences, it couldn't be more obvious if I tried.

But I doubt it'll get through your delusions that they're somehow the same, despite being completely different.

You use the word "delusion" as often as a wave hits a beach as if saying it over and over again will make it true.

The differences are minor to underlying point is that these corporations are "using" charitable causes for personal gain. To have a hissy fit about me3 fans and not the corporations use is childish at best.

The reality is you had a problem with me3 fans using the charity for a cause you did not agree with, not because they actually did anything wrong.

Edit: childish is perhaps the wrong word, disingenuous would be better

Modifié par FlamingBoy, 21 janvier 2014 - 03:24 .

[dreamgazer]

FlamingBoy wrote...

Well they weren't exactly the opposite of "kicking and screaming" it took a month of rage (about 3 press releases, and 100 insulting articles) for the extended cut to even be announced , hence its more of a fan achievement than biowares generosity.

Its really how you percieve the manner and since you and I are on the opposite sides of the bias spectrum I can see why you percieve it that way (as I am sure you can understand my perspective)

Eh, bias doesn't change facts, and you can't really describe their announcement of the extended cut as "kicking and screaming".

As for dlc, there isn't a game alive, lost cause or not, that ea will not dlc into oblivion.

Dragon Age 2 is a direct example countering your position, which I cited. 

[FlamingBoy]

dreamgazer wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

Well they weren't exactly the opposite of "kicking and screaming" it took a month of rage (about 3 press releases, and 100 insulting articles) for the extended cut to even be announced , hence its more of a fan achievement than biowares generosity.

Its really how you percieve the manner and since you and I are on the opposite sides of the bias spectrum I can see why you percieve it that way (as I am sure you can understand my perspective)

Eh, bias doesn't change facts, and you can't really describe their announcement of the extended cut as "kicking and screaming".

As for dlc, there isn't a game alive, lost cause or not, that ea will not dlc into oblivion.

Dragon Age 2 is a direct example countering your position, which I cited. 

Kicking and screaming was harsh, but you cannot deny resistance.

Dragon Age 2 had dlc as I recall they cut their loses much later into the cycle. It was stil DLCified.

Edit: all dragon age 2 dlc
http://social.bioware.com/page/da2-dlc
That is alot of dlc:happy:

Modifié par FlamingBoy, 21 janvier 2014 - 03:02 .

[Iakus]

EntropicAngel wrote...

iakus wrote...

That has got to be the most backhanded compilment ever

I think you know it wasn't really a compliment.

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt .  Misplaced, I know 

[dreamgazer]

FlamingBoy wrote...

Dragon Age 2 had dlc as I recall they cut their loses much later into the cycle. It was stil DLCified.

Edit: all dragon age 2 dlc
http://social.bioware.com/page/da2-dlc
That is alot of dlc:happy:

Not compared to Origins, not by a long shot. 

Modifié par dreamgazer, 21 janvier 2014 - 03:11 .

[FlamingBoy]

dreamgazer wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

Dragon Age 2 had dlc as I recall they cut their loses much later into the cycle. It was stil DLCified.

Edit: all dragon age 2 dlc
http://social.bioware.com/page/da2-dlc
That is alot of dlc:happy:

Not compared to Origins, not by a long shot. 

True, but its still alot of dlc hence the point that their is no game, lost cause or not, that EA will not DLC to the depths of the underworld and meet the greek heroes of old.

[FlamingBoy]

EntropicAngel wrote...




Edit: How do I end up in these threads? So much time wasted.

Don't lie, you know you love it.

[HiddenInWar]

Oi.

That is certainly something. I don't know what they expected to gain from it though.

[FlamingBoy]

EntropicAngel wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

Don't lie, you know you love it.

Whether I love it or not I don't have TIME for it, I should be writing summaries of scientific articles about TLRs and RLRs and Salmonella and its innate and adaptive immune response...

Wait, now I remember why I end up here.

You and I are destined to do this... forever.

[dreamgazer]

FlamingBoy wrote...

True, but its still alot of dlc hence the point that their is no game, lost cause or not, that EA will not DLC to the depths of the underworld and meet the greek heroes of old.

Not really. It actually reinforces the point that BioWare and EA will halt DLC production if they see a dead end.

[FlamingBoy]

dreamgazer wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

True, but its still alot of dlc hence the point that their is no game, lost cause or not, that EA will not DLC to the depths of the underworld and meet the greek heroes of old.

Not really. It actually reinforces the point that BioWare and EA will halt DLC production if they see a dead end.

If that much dlc = cutting losses, well I hate to think of the future.