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[ZombieGrenadier]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Giant Reapers is a better farm setup IMO...so simple, easier objectives.

Even Giant Collectors is easier. With Rio the real nightmare begins when you have to run for extraction, or in fact do any objective wave. NO WAY you can see a full extraction on Rio.

My last platinum was on Rio but no one had to stand inside the box as my AIU Reegar Inc IV made sure any enemy went down before being able to look inside. Still, only 2 extracted.

[FireRider100]

Ares_GoW wrote...

It's a really stupid farm setup: Bad/hard objects, games take too long and learning to play platinum by hiding in a box is just wrong. Whenever I land into these preset rio/reapers/platinum lobbies I leave.

And as was said, for farming Giant is way better.

I very much agree that giant is a better map for platinum farming than rio; in fact giant was my default map for platinum farming.

For giant all you need is a good jugg player to take point near the LZ and the rest to hang around nearby with high damaging weapons/abilities e.g. flamer. It’s preferable to have an infiltrator with 10 second cloak to do any device objectives that come up.

[viper_veteran]

Slimjim0725 wrote...

viper_veteran wrote...

It is an ok way to farm plat when you don't have anyone on your friends list to carry you and you're starting out either on platinum or the whole game. From my experience back when I was starting out on PS3 things usually go sour on the objective waves, when the phantoms come out to play or extraction when you have to run past all the enemies. It does take long to do it though usually because the team is underpowered and unskilled but you do learn how to deal with platinum because you survive longer than you actually should. Eventually you get more confident, get better weapons and step out of the box of shame.

Like others have said there are newer more effective ways of farming and getting platinum experience. I would say rio/reapers is for the beginners and giant is the next step. The best way is if you have friends who are willing to carry you and give advice the previous methods you l2p mainly through trial and error the latter you more or less skip making so many mistakes.

I'd really have to disagree with a lot of this. It teachs you terrible habits that don't work well in a non-farming game. In most matches your team will be easily overrun if you try to huddle together like that unless it is a team that is familar with each other and know which enemies are the biggest threats. 

As for the best way being to let people carry you and give you advice, that can go either way in my opinion. When you have someone you know will drag you to the end it limits your ability to step up and do it yourself. While the advice is a good thing, you would be better served taking that advice and playing lower difficulties in a game full of random people to really have a chance to make use of that while not being under-prepared with weapons/gear.

I understand what angle you are coming from but you can't complete a platinum game without leaving the box. You have to leave the box eventually so you do get to learn techniques in dealing with enemies outside of the protection of the box. Whenever you farm in any RPG you always learn how to deal with the particular enemies that you farm more effeciently whether you are farming bosses or mooks for special items in classic RPG's, the same applies for this RPG. You also learn how each platinum enemy behaves, which enemies are the biggest threats aside from banshees and how to deal with CQC.

In relation to the second part that really depends on the friend and how much they know about the game so yes it can go either way but even then as a beginner you still get some experience in dealing with platinum enemies and theory on building characters for platinum. Also it depends on the person learning some people learn faster when thrown into the deep end as opposed to learning in the conventional way bronze --> silver --> gold --> platinum. However when you do have someone that knows the game and decides to bring you in then it is generally is the best way to get platinum experience as a beginner.

[Chief Capo]

eighteighty wrote...

Chief Capo wrote...

Shampoohorn wrote...

Chief Capo wrote...

Lol it's the only way I play Rio.

Imo, its the best intro to platinum mode, Rio/Reapers, Yes, Hide back in the box, it's not really cheating since you can still get r@ped inside the box, since they can still hit you ... and phantoms can run inside it and whatnot, .... Past wave 7 it turns to hell no matter what, and you need a good team to pass that, and things get even rougher when you get a upload objective in the middle

Pathetic on so many levels. Also, lol 'good team'.

Lolololol, not pathetic, Called "Surviving Rio in a Game with Pugs who don't know what they're doing"
Have you ever been in a rio game where the stupid pugs actually try to hold the middle down, and get r@ped by both sides and go down by wave 1? Here's an alternative, Simply, tell them to goto the box, and hold the 2 side alleyways until things get rough, then use the box as a last resort...Heh.
And yes... a good team , to pass platinum mode ......Did you expect to do it with a buncha pugs using level 1 characters? Or wait ... are you one of those pro's that loves to carry everything by yourself, welp, I bet the pugs enjoy your gullible self.

You're the exact person that is the problem here.  

Not only do I refuse to go in the box, but I run around on my own and usually outscore 2nd place by 100% or more.

QQ big baby, console gaming is different than the PC version, there's a lot more things you need to be cautious of , and the player quality is lower. Go ahead and run around on your own, waste all your supplies, i'll be the one who survives in the long run over near the box, and you'll be the one downed on the other side of the map, with no escape >

oh and no, I won't be reviving you, I don't revive BSN'ers, I let them prove their big ego's, since most of them think they're just soo pro and above everything , but of the 6 BSN'ers I've played with, 5 of them have done horrible in they're little ... "Running around the map pwning" thing lol.. so I really don't have much respect for any of them, I just come here to talk trash to them lolol

Modifié par Chief Capo, 21 janvier 2014 - 04:02 .

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

What the hell just happened?

[SlimJim0725]

viper_veteran wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

viper_veteran wrote...

It is an ok way to farm plat when you don't have anyone on your friends list to carry you and you're starting out either on platinum or the whole game. From my experience back when I was starting out on PS3 things usually go sour on the objective waves, when the phantoms come out to play or extraction when you have to run past all the enemies. It does take long to do it though usually because the team is underpowered and unskilled but you do learn how to deal with platinum because you survive longer than you actually should. Eventually you get more confident, get better weapons and step out of the box of shame.

Like others have said there are newer more effective ways of farming and getting platinum experience. I would say rio/reapers is for the beginners and giant is the next step. The best way is if you have friends who are willing to carry you and give advice the previous methods you l2p mainly through trial and error the latter you more or less skip making so many mistakes.

I'd really have to disagree with a lot of this. It teachs you terrible habits that don't work well in a non-farming game. In most matches your team will be easily overrun if you try to huddle together like that unless it is a team that is familar with each other and know which enemies are the biggest threats. 

As for the best way being to let people carry you and give you advice, that can go either way in my opinion. When you have someone you know will drag you to the end it limits your ability to step up and do it yourself. While the advice is a good thing, you would be better served taking that advice and playing lower difficulties in a game full of random people to really have a chance to make use of that while not being under-prepared with weapons/gear.

I understand what angle you are coming from but you can't complete a platinum game without leaving the box. You have to leave the box eventually so you do get to learn techniques in dealing with enemies outside of the protection of the box. Whenever you farm in any RPG you always learn how to deal with the particular enemies that you farm more effeciently whether you are farming bosses or mooks for special items in classic RPG's, the same applies for this RPG. You also learn how each platinum enemy behaves, which enemies are the biggest threats aside from banshees and how to deal with CQC.

In relation to the second part that really depends on the friend and how much they know about the game so yes it can go either way but even then as a beginner you still get some experience in dealing with platinum enemies and theory on building characters for platinum. Also it depends on the person learning some people learn faster when thrown into the deep end as opposed to learning in the conventional way bronze --> silver --> gold --> platinum. However when you do have someone that knows the game and decides to bring you in then it is generally is the best way to get platinum experience as a beginner.

Obviously you can't complete a Rio game without leaving the box, that is a given. However, only having to really deal with enemies 3 waves out of the 11 is teaching awful habits. When those people go into a normal game such as one I would host (U/U/P), they are nothing but dead weight since they really don't know how to deal with enemies.

As for the RPG scenario, that really shouldn't apply to the multiplayer of this game. What is the point of farming for credits if you have no idea how to really use the weapon or character that you will unlock? How long will people use the box before they are satisfied with what they have? I don't see how anyone could enjoy even a single match of doing that. Then again, I was around for the great FBW/Geth farming problem and I didn't do that at all which I feel helped progress my abilites quicker than a lot of others.

For the experience bit, you are right that it really just depends on how quickly someone is able to pick up on things. The problem with having 1-3 friends take a newer player into Platinum is that what do they do when those friends are not around to babysit them? They feel they can handle Platinum at first due to previous success thinking that most games may be the same way, but then they come across 2 more people just there for whatever credits they can leech for and 1 experienced player (if they are lucky, or they farm). None of them are any real help to the experienced player aside from maybe a revive or two or a missile or two from the one that had friends bring them in. 

They would be better served brought into a Silver game where they can have some real success to start and not become over-confident in their abilities at the time. That isn't to say a player can't make jumps in difficulty rather quickly, but those cases are so rare that it should not be considered the normal thing to do.

[Aeropagus]

viper_veteran wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

viper_veteran wrote...

It is an ok way to farm plat when you don't have anyone on your friends list to carry you and you're starting out either on platinum or the whole game. From my experience back when I was starting out on PS3 things usually go sour on the objective waves, when the phantoms come out to play or extraction when you have to run past all the enemies. It does take long to do it though usually because the team is underpowered and unskilled but you do learn how to deal with platinum because you survive longer than you actually should. Eventually you get more confident, get better weapons and step out of the box of shame.

Like others have said there are newer more effective ways of farming and getting platinum experience. I would say rio/reapers is for the beginners and giant is the next step. The best way is if you have friends who are willing to carry you and give advice the previous methods you l2p mainly through trial and error the latter you more or less skip making so many mistakes.

I'd really have to disagree with a lot of this. It teachs you terrible habits that don't work well in a non-farming game. In most matches your team will be easily overrun if you try to huddle together like that unless it is a team that is familar with each other and know which enemies are the biggest threats. 

As for the best way being to let people carry you and give you advice, that can go either way in my opinion. When you have someone you know will drag you to the end it limits your ability to step up and do it yourself. While the advice is a good thing, you would be better served taking that advice and playing lower difficulties in a game full of random people to really have a chance to make use of that while not being under-prepared with weapons/gear.

I understand what angle you are coming from but you can't complete a platinum game without leaving the box. You have to leave the box eventually so you do get to learn techniques in dealing with enemies outside of the protection of the box. Whenever you farm in any RPG you always learn how to deal with the particular enemies that you farm more effeciently whether you are farming bosses or mooks for special items in classic RPG's, the same applies for this RPG. You also learn how each platinum enemy behaves, which enemies are the biggest threats aside from banshees and how to deal with CQC.

In relation to the second part that really depends on the friend and how much they know about the game so yes it can go either way but even then as a beginner you still get some experience in dealing with platinum enemies and theory on building characters for platinum. Also it depends on the person learning some people learn faster when thrown into the deep end as opposed to learning in the conventional way bronze --> silver --> gold --> platinum. However when you do have someone that knows the game and decides to bring you in then it is generally is the best way to get platinum experience as a beginner.

Thanks for the advice.

I've only been playing for about 3 weeks, so I only have one person on my friend's list who I never even play with. It's fine though. I've joined very late and I don't have any lofty goals of maxing my manifest or anything. I just want to enjoy the multiplayer, and pugs do just fine.

I feel like I've played enough to be ready for plat (not to toot my own horn or anything, but I do consider myself a very quick learner), but the way things are going, unless I'm doing it with a group of friends or people who are competent, than it's not worth the trouble or time, especially if I'm gonna keep stumbling across firebase rio experiences.

That kind of grinding is not my idea of fun. It's not about the goal, t's about the journey for me. People who play firebase rio just want an easy (maybe safe?) way to make credits, which is fine. I'm not gonna sit here and look down on them for playing in the way they want to, but that's not how I want to spend my time.

So I think I'll just continue to play on gold. It's basically the perfect porridge, so to speak, in terms of multiplayer experience: the amount of credits you receive, diversity of maps/enemies, varieties of characters, reliability of teammates, dependence on equipment, etc. It's not too hot, nor too cold, but just right.

[MEuniverse]

 I did it 8-10 times (I think), but I did it only for the fun of it not because it is easier except the first 4 games (because I get that close to Banshees?)  lol


here's how I  play ME3's multiplayer:
Farming= Glacier or Giant/Hazard Giant
Normal Friend game= Unknown/Unknown/Platinum
Lazy Friend Game= Unknown/Geth/Gold
Challenge with PUGs= Hazard Glacier or Condor/Collectors or Cerberus/Platinum
Challenge with Friends= Hazard Glacier or Condor/Geth or Collectors/Platinum

Modifié par MEuniverse, 21 janvier 2014 - 06:15 .

[Wizard of Ox]

I wish they'd do it against collectors.

[eighteighty]

Chief Capo wrote...

eighteighty wrote...

Chief Capo wrote...

Shampoohorn wrote...

Chief Capo wrote...

Lol it's the only way I play Rio.

Imo, its the best intro to platinum mode, Rio/Reapers, Yes, Hide back in the box, it's not really cheating since you can still get r@ped inside the box, since they can still hit you ... and phantoms can run inside it and whatnot, .... Past wave 7 it turns to hell no matter what, and you need a good team to pass that, and things get even rougher when you get a upload objective in the middle

Pathetic on so many levels. Also, lol 'good team'.

Lolololol, not pathetic, Called "Surviving Rio in a Game with Pugs who don't know what they're doing"
Have you ever been in a rio game where the stupid pugs actually try to hold the middle down, and get r@ped by both sides and go down by wave 1? Here's an alternative, Simply, tell them to goto the box, and hold the 2 side alleyways until things get rough, then use the box as a last resort...Heh.
And yes... a good team , to pass platinum mode ......Did you expect to do it with a buncha pugs using level 1 characters? Or wait ... are you one of those pro's that loves to carry everything by yourself, welp, I bet the pugs enjoy your gullible self.

You're the exact person that is the problem here.  

Not only do I refuse to go in the box, but I run around on my own and usually outscore 2nd place by 100% or more.

QQ big baby, console gaming is different than the PC version, there's a lot more things you need to be cautious of , and the player quality is lower. Go ahead and run around on your own, waste all your supplies, i'll be the one who survives in the long run over near the box, and you'll be the one downed on the other side of the map, with no escape >

oh and no, I won't be reviving you, I don't revive BSN'ers, I let them prove their big ego's, since most of them think they're just soo pro and above everything , but of the 6 BSN'ers I've played with, 5 of them have done horrible in they're little ... "Running around the map pwning" thing lol.. so I really don't have much respect for any of them, I just come here to talk trash to them lolol

Then play me.  If you can outscore me, I'll Paypal you $50.

If you stay in the Box of Lame, you won't have many enemies to kill because I'll be killing them all.

Modifié par eighteighty, 21 janvier 2014 - 06:55 .

[Moby]

Chief Capo wrote...

Blah blah blah.

LOL @ "trolling BSNers"

I like how you're talking down on BSNers in general.  By posting here, that makes you yourself a BSNer as well.

Feel free to be stupid somewhere else ya dork.

[SlimJim0725]

And now it gets interesting. Is this a 1v1 babby? Needs live stream!

Also, you are letting a troll get to you too easy there eighteighty.

[Moby]

I would say 1v1 me babby however Capo has already stated he plays on the compooper.

[q5tyhj]

Camping the box is weak, but otherwise I usually like playing Rio because of the 37 ammo boxes (i.e. virtually unlimited grenades).

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

MofuggerX wrote...

I would say 1v1 me babby however Capo has already stated he plays on the compooper.

Pretty sure he's said in the past that he's on Xbox.

We need to make this happen. A 1v1 with $50 on the line doesn't happen often.

[Sket]

b00g13man wrote...

MofuggerX wrote...

I would say 1v1 me babby however Capo has already stated he plays on the compooper.

Pretty sure he's said in the past that he's on Xbox.

We need to make this happen. A 1v1 with $50 on the line doesn't happen often.

I also thought he plays on Xbox. Sure I've seen him in game....

[Wizard of Ox]

Sketfish wrote...

b00g13man wrote...

MofuggerX wrote...

I would say 1v1 me babby however Capo has already stated he plays on the compooper.

Pretty sure he's said in the past that he's on Xbox.

We need to make this happen. A 1v1 with $50 on the line doesn't happen often.

I also thought he plays on Xbox. Sure I've seen him in game....

Just clicked on his screen name: he's on Xbox. 

[Moby]

Well then.

1v1 me babby

[Kislitsin]

@Capo... Oh how I wish you had a PC version...
Get yourself a PC version, hack the damn credits and 1v1 me baby!

Rio, Collectorz, Plat. Take your damn juggy, I will even try to find a Volus - to host and to constantly SB you.
If your score more than 50% of mine - I paypal you 25$, if your score more than 75% of mine - I paypall you 50$, if not - you leave BSN forever.
I have only one wish - I use my PPR-TSent. AP ammo, no cheeze on my side. You are free to use incendiary reeger and AC5 (unless you need survivor loadout, which I think you do).

Modifié par Kislitsin, 21 janvier 2014 - 08:10 .

[Geek]

Never thought I'd see a 1v1 box of shame challenge.

[Tokenusername]

Heavy risk...but the prize.

[Saints]

50$?!? For doing nothing? Imma in.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

Geek Fest wrote...

Never thought I'd see a 1v1 box of shame challenge.

This is a new low.

[Aeropagus]

Tokenusername wrote...

Heavy risk...but the prize.

God...I haven't heard that in a long time.

Thank you.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

Aeropagus wrote...

 when the **** hits the fan.

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