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[dreamgazer]

iakus wrote...

Nightdragon8 wrote...

You haven't watched that many movies have you? its a cenimatic thing where the person who is closest to ther person in question "Just knows" that they are alive. Its used in movies ALL THE TIME. So get off it.

Yeah, I mean, in Return of the Jedi, I loved how the final scene with Luke Skywalker was a faceless torso in the shuttle wreckage taking a breath.

And how Ripley's belief that Newt was alive was never explicitly confirmed in Aliens

What happened to MacReady at the end of The Thing? Was Quaid in Total Recall or not? 

[Chashan]

dreamgazer wrote...

What happened to MacReady at the end of The Thing? Was Quaid in Total Recall or not? 

Thing with those two flicks is: they worked.

Suggesting ME3's finale is on that level is somewhat...daring.

[dreamgazer]

Chashan wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

What happened to MacReady at the end of The Thing? Was Quaid in Total Recall or not? 

Thing with those two flicks is: they worked.

Suggesting ME3's finale is on that level is somewhat...daring.

Nah, it's on that level, but suggesting that ambiguous, open endings are some bizarre thing in science-fiction simply isn't right.

[Reorte]

Just because the same lame cliche has been used elsewhere in things that are otherwise good doesn't stop it from being stupid and frustrating.

[dreamgazer]

Reorte wrote...

Just because the same lame cliche has been used elsewhere in things that are otherwise good doesn't stop it from being stupid and frustrating.

I'll take the "lame, cliche" thing in The Thing and Total Recall above Aliens and Return of the Jedi any day of the week, thankyaverymuch. 

[AlanC9]

Reorte wrote...

Just because the same lame cliche has been used elsewhere in things that are otherwise good doesn't stop it from being stupid and frustrating.

OK, you don't like the approach, ever. Got it. De gustibus, right?

But it doesn't matter. If Bio's learned one thing from ME3, it's that their fans shouldn't be trusted with interpretation. They won't make that mistake again.

Modifié par AlanC9, 21 janvier 2014 - 11:15 .

[Reorte]

AlanC9 wrote...

Reorte wrote...

Just because the same lame cliche has been used elsewhere in things that are otherwise good doesn't stop it from being stupid and frustrating.

OK, you don't like the approach, ever. Got it. De gustibus, right?

But it doesn't matter. If Bio's learned one thing from ME3, it's that their fans shouldn't be trusted with interpretation. They won't make that mistake again.

Oh please, don't try that lame old nonsense.

[crimzontearz]

Thing with those two flicks is: they worked.

Suggesting ME3's finale is on that level is somewhat...daring.

He dies
Word if god says he was real

But it doesn't matter. If Bio's learned one thing from ME3, it's that their fans shouldn't be trusted with interpretation. They won't make that mistake again.

I would not be so sure.....

[dreamgazer]

crimzontearz wrote...

But it doesn't matter. If Bio's learned one thing from ME3, it's that their fans shouldn't be trusted with interpretation. They won't make that mistake again.

I would not be so sure.....

I would.

[Reorte]

dreamgazer wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

But it doesn't matter. If Bio's learned one thing from ME3, it's that their fans shouldn't be trusted with interpretation. They won't make that mistake again.

I would not be so sure.....

I would.

There's a risk of misunderstanding the issue, e.g. the Mako and inventory in ME1.

[dreamgazer]

Reorte wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

But it doesn't matter. If Bio's learned one thing from ME3, it's that their fans shouldn't be trusted with interpretation. They won't make that mistake again.

I would not be so sure.....

I would.

There's a risk of misunderstanding the issue, e.g. the Mako and inventory in ME1.

"Happy ending" and "no speculations" are, without question, two of the key things they'll take away from this mess. 

[crimzontearz]

I have seen a certain level of idiocy happening in Bioware's modus operandi now, and I am not putting them simply "getting it wrong again" beneath them

Of course there is a small chance I will be pleasantly surprised

[spirosz]

dreamgazer wrote...
"Happy ending" and "no speculations" are, without question, two of the key things they'll take away from this mess. 

[AlexMBrennan]

You haven't watched that many movies have you? its a cenimatic thing where the person who is closest to ther person in question "Just knows" that they are alive. Its used in movies ALL THE TIME. So get off it.

So, a bad thing becomes good by repetition? By that logic, you should be fine with me punching you in the face as long as I bring all my mates to help beat you up.

[AlanC9]

Reorte wrote...

There's a risk of misunderstanding the issue, e.g. the Mako and inventory in ME1.

I thought they got those exactly right, myself.

[Reorte]

dreamgazer wrote...

Reorte wrote...

There's a risk of misunderstanding the issue, e.g. the Mako and inventory in ME1.

"Happy ending" and "no speculations" are, without question, two of the key things they'll take away from this mess. 

Which will entirely prove my point if that happens. I've said it goodness knows how many times but an RPG particularly should aim for a variety of endings (no-one has ever claimed they want a no-one hurt at all, the Reapers might as well have never shown up ending), and speculations are fine if done right and with the right aspects of the story (i.e. what will the krogan do if the genophage is cured entirely belongs in the "speculations" camp).

[Reorte]

AlanC9 wrote...

Reorte wrote...

There's a risk of misunderstanding the issue, e.g. the Mako and inventory in ME1.

I thought they got those exactly right, myself.

Really? The Mako itself was fine but the terrain on all the random worlds wasn't, and the inventory was handled clunkily to say the least. The concept of both was good (to a degree, I'm not really a fan of levelled up numbers throughout a game, particularly in a story-driven one), the implementation left room for improvement.

[Reorte]

crimzontearz wrote...

I have seen a certain level of idiocy happening in Bioware's modus operandi now, and I am not putting them simply "getting it wrong again" beneath them

Of course there is a small chance I will be pleasantly surprised

I'm very, very curious about how the next Dragon Age game will turn out mostly because of this. I think it'll tell us a lot.

[dreamgazer]

Reorte wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Reorte wrote...

There's a risk of misunderstanding the issue, e.g. the Mako and inventory in ME1.

"Happy ending" and "no speculations" are, without question, two of the key things they'll take away from this mess. 

Which will entirely prove my point if that happens. I've said it goodness knows how many times but an RPG particularly should aim for a variety of endings (no-one has ever claimed they want a no-one hurt at all, the Reapers might as well have never shown up ending), and speculations are fine if done right and with the right aspects of the story (i.e. what will the krogan do if the genophage is cured entirely belongs in the "speculations" camp).

See, I agree with you, but things like this ...





... and the base fan reactions that led to them are going to speak a hell of a lot louder down the line. 

[AlanC9]

Reorte wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

OK, you don't like the approach, ever. Got it. De gustibus, right?

But it doesn't matter. If Bio's learned one thing from ME3, it's that their fans shouldn't be trusted with interpretation. They won't make that mistake again.

Oh please, don't try that lame old nonsense.

What nonsense? The devs have flatly said that the ending was interpreted in ways they didn't intend or expect.

[Reorte]

AlanC9 wrote...

Reorte wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

OK, you don't like the approach, ever. Got it. De gustibus, right?

But it doesn't matter. If Bio's learned one thing from ME3, it's that their fans shouldn't be trusted with interpretation. They won't make that mistake again.

Oh please, don't try that lame old nonsense.

What nonsense? The devs have flatly said that the ending was interpreted in ways they didn't intend or expect.

That's not the same as "the fans can't be trusted with interpretation".

[crimzontearz]

I'm very, very curious about how the next Dragon Age game will turn out mostly because of this. I think it'll tell us a lot.

I am a little more optimistic about that

[MassivelyEffective0730]

dreamgazer wrote...

Reorte wrote...

Just because the same lame cliche has been used elsewhere in things that are otherwise good doesn't stop it from being stupid and frustrating.

I'll take the "lame, cliche" thing in The Thing and Total Recall above Aliens and Return of the Jedi any day of the week, thankyaverymuch. 

So your opinions are lame and cliche. Got it.

[dreamgazer]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Reorte wrote...

Just because the same lame cliche has been used elsewhere in things that are otherwise good doesn't stop it from being stupid and frustrating.

I'll take the "lame, cliche" thing in The Thing and Total Recall above Aliens and Return of the Jedi any day of the week, thankyaverymuch. 

So your opinions are lame and cliche. Got it.

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[Excella Gionne]

I went with 2,760 EMS and didn't save Anderson, I still managed to unlock the breath of life scene. That just proves that you can get that little.