You're right its hard to make a good male human however there is a pattern in mind that I always use. I just made a human noble with that pattern, take a look. No mod included, just what the game provides me with.
I personally think its fine without mods.
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I seem to be playing female humans mostly for now. Still new to the game but I really love having the mage aspects and I like romancing Alistair for now. Dwarf isn't appealing to my playstyle. Might play an elf at some point though.
I can see a few reasons for making a nonhuman playthrough.
1. Elves start out with higher magic stats than human. I did human one once, but I think elven mage will be one of my canon ones.
2. Dwarf nobles make very good warriors and rogues. 10% spell resistance and 2 ranks of combat training-worth it even if you have to accept one talent in Shield Bash. I'm thinking of another canon one for dual wield warrior, or maybe a rogue.
3. City Elf Rogue-1 nice origin item and a good dagger. You can also be a Bann.
I'm really struggling to come up for a reason for a Dalish playthrough or a Dwarf Commoner one. Your Dalish tribe still ends up in Kirkwall, and I can't say the Dwarf Commoner origin really made that big of a impact.
I can see a few reasons for making a nonhuman playthrough.
1. Elves start out with higher magic stats than human. I did human one once, but I think elven mage will be one of my canon ones.
2. Dwarf nobles make very good warriors and rogues. 10% spell resistance and 2 ranks of combat training-worth it even if you have to accept one talent in Shield Bash. I'm thinking of another canon one for dual wield warrior, or maybe a rogue.
3. City Elf Rogue-1 nice origin item and a good dagger. You can also be a Bann.
I'm really struggling to come up for a reason for a Dalish playthrough or a Dwarf Commoner one. Your Dalish tribe still ends up in Kirkwall, and I can't say the Dwarf Commoner origin really made that big of a impact.
The beginning stats really do not make much of a difference. Some of us like the differing impacts on the story. The gutsy rags to riches Dwarf Commoner origin has a shining moment of glory in the origin itself as well as a really good reason to back Bhelen. The Dalish origin has a heartbreaking moment 4/5's of the way through the main quests as well as a neat tie in Witch Hunt.
For me, I'm rather fond of the Dwarf Commoner origin. But others have differing opinions. That's fine. 
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Yeah, Dwarf Commoner is underrated. I like the Female cocky voice too (it's Jack from Mass Effect)
If a Rogue though, there's overlap with Sigrun.
He looks quite different than alistar when they stand near each other.
I played my first 2 times with human noble females (warrior and then rogue). Then changed to female mages, and went down the line. Then I started back at the top with males. It is a lot of fun and different dialogue for male and female characters. Also you are treated a little differently for each race/gender you choose. It is very interesting.
Yeah, Dwarf Commoner is underrated. I like the Female cocky voice too (it's Jack from Mass Effect)
If a Rogue though, there's overlap with Sigrun.
Not really. My rogue is Dwarf Noble, Sigrun is Dwarf Commoner. She goes into her background a bit in her personal quest.
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I don't know. I find human characters so tear-inducingly boring that I can't even play through the origin for curiosity's sake. I found the Human Noble Origin just insufferably bland, cliched, and filled with more boot-licking for Couslands than I ever want to see for one character. I found the Human Mage less insufferable but even more bland and boring. It's the same origin as an Elven Mage, so it's less exotic and neat. The way I see it, why just have magic when you can have the added bonus of being an exotic race with the added discrimination and cultural heritage of being an elf?
As a people, culture, history, socio-economic position in the world, etc. I relate to elves more. Their history, culture, socio-economic position, etc. has shades in common with many Jewish people, especially pre-WWII European Jews. (Along with people of Celtic, African, Native American, Romani descent, etc.) It's the cultural identity I grew up with, thus the characters I relate to the most. (Plus they're lithe and pointy-eared, like me.)
I never want to hear "We all relate to human characters more because they're human just like us, and anyone who says differently is lying," because I don't. I find the humans of Thedas have the same W.A.S.P. (Wealthy Anglo-Saxon Protestant) culture as our boring European Christian-descended Western culture, which I never understood, never felt at home in, and never belonged in. Plus I was socially awkward and heavily bullied growing up, so I never automatically felt like I related to or belonged among people just because they happened to be the same species as me. I prefer being around animals and nature in real life, and I prefer the cultural identity and values of elves in this game.
It all comes down to personal preference. I don't know what or why yours is, but I know mine.
The Human Noble is the best origin. Of all the possible origins it is the one that is most tied into the main plot.
The Human Noble is the best origin. Of all the possible origins it is the one that is most tied into the main plot.
Not... really. The main plot, against the darkspawn, has everyone being basically equal, but dwarves have a slight edge there. The human noble has great ties to the Landsmeet questline, but the city elf equals them at least. Mages have Broken Circle, Dalish have Nature of the Beast, and dwarves have A Paragon of Her Kind. To be honest, HN seems rather redundant to me, considering Alistair's plot.
It's different for me. I've played all the origin stories but the only character I was able to finish the game with was my city elf. I was too detached from the others that I wasn't able to get far with them. I got as far as Lothering with human noble, and Ostagar with elf mage. I didn't have the urge to continue beyond the origin stories for the others.
I have played all of them. My favorites are city elf and human noble. The city elf because you come back and save your people. I just love that part. The Human noble because you get to take out Howe.
Not... really. The main plot, against the darkspawn, has everyone being basically equal, but dwarves have a slight edge there. The human noble has great ties to the Landsmeet questline, but the city elf equals them at least. Mages have Broken Circle, Dalish have Nature of the Beast, and dwarves have A Paragon of Her Kind. To be honest, HN seems rather redundant to me, considering Alistair's plot.
Everyone might be involved equally in combating the Blight, but the Human Noble origin is most tied in with Loghain's coup and Arl Howe's treachery. As such that origin feels the most involved in the game's plot, IMO.
Everyone might be involved equally in combating the Blight, but the Human Noble origin is most tied in with Loghain's coup and Arl Howe's treachery. As such that origin feels the most involved in the game's plot, IMO.
I disagree. The HN plot is only peripherally related to Loghain's coup, certainly not more than the mage or the city elf. And Howe's treachery is a minor subplot, ultimately, that still hits the CE at least as badly.
City Elf origin and main plot do not overlap at all until the game is basically over (Rescue the Queen, Unrest in the Alienage). By contrast, Human Nobles get constantly reminded of their origin: by Cailan's much more personal and specific greeting, by seeing Howe - who is a non-entity for other origins - in cutscenes, by constantly seeing the family arms in the inventory until they can be put into storage, things like that. Hence the greater impact.
City Elf origin and main plot do not overlap at all until the game is basically over (Rescue the Queen, Unrest in the Alienage). By contrast, Human Nobles get constantly reminded of their origin: by Cailan's much more personal and specific greeting, by seeing Howe - who is a non-entity for other origins - in cutscenes, by constantly seeing the family arms in the inventory until they can be put into storage, things like that. Hence the greater impact.
That's... very, very minor, being one more scene at the very beginning of the game and a few noninteractive droplets of cutscene until the near-end of the game again.
City Elf origin and main plot do not overlap at all until the game is basically over (Rescue the Queen, Unrest in the Alienage). By contrast, Human Nobles get constantly reminded of their origin: by Cailan's much more personal and specific greeting, by seeing Howe - who is a non-entity for other origins - in cutscenes, by constantly seeing the family arms in the inventory until they can be put into storage, things like that. Hence the greater impact.
Because, of course, carrying your bloodstained wedding dress and your wedding ring in your inventory are not constant reminders of your kidnapping, your cousin's rape and the murder of your bridesmaid.
The CE can take revenge right there in the origin, and so they don't see Vaughan's face popping up all the time throughout the game.
The HN has to wait a long time, and for them the arms are not only a reminder of what happened - they are also a constant reminder of what they have yet to do, which is to run Howe through with the sword. That makes for a difference in impact.
Human Noble and City Elf are both very good. I wouldn't want to choose between them which is better.
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One thing that makes sense to me for HN is Cailan asking you to join the meeting and subtly redirecting you and Alistair to the tower of Ishal. There are other Wardens at Ostagar, but he singles them out. With Alistair, it's obvious. With the Warden, it makes a lot of sense if a Cousland. Bryce was working with Cailan to have talks with Orlais. This is one reason why Howe killed him. And now young Cousland might be the last in their line. This is the family of one of Cailan's most important allies. Makes way more sense to protect them than some City Elf Warden or Dalish or whatever.
Not that I have a preference, but it's just a thought that came to me while playing.
The CE can take revenge right there in the origin, and so they don't see Vaughan's face popping up all the time throughout the game.
The HN has to wait a long time, and for them the arms are not only a reminder of what happened - they are also a constant reminder of what they have yet to do, which is to run Howe through with the sword. That makes for a difference in impact.
No but they're reminded of their personal failure to save their cousin from rape.
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The Human Noble is the best origin. Of all the possible origins it is the one that is most tied into the main plot.
No it's not. The City Elf:
a) was born and raised in Denerim, where Eamon calls the Landsmeet.
also has personal motivation to kill Howe since he slaughtered your people in a purge.
c) in fact, storming the Arl of Denerim's Estate to save a woman in peril and butcher the pig that hurt your people feels like the game is coming full circle since it's the second time for the CE. (Rescue Shianni and other bridesmaids becomes rescue Anora. Going after Vaughan becomes going after Howe.)
d) gets to go home to rescue your people during all of Unrest in the Alienage.
e) has personal reason to go after Loghain since he greenlit selling your people into slavery.
Not to mention I think the CE has more in common with Alistair, your main and only real required companion through most of the game, since you were both raised in rags and were mistreated by human nobles due to your heritage. (The CE as an elf, and Alistair as a "royal bastard.")
So, no. Not the best, not the most tied to the main plot. The City Elf at least is just as much, just in a different way.
'Best' and 'most tied to the plot' seem like awfully fuzzy, abstract, subjective things to be arguing about.
I'm a big fan of the City Elf origin - and the Human Noble one, fwiw - but I can never seem to get my elves' faces to look any good. So I've played through the CE origin like eleventy billion times, but almost every time I get to Ostagar, I see my elves' faces in different light and instantly hate them, back to the drawing board to reroll. There's something about structure that's incredibly difficult to tune for me; almost all my elves have a nasty case of horseface, and those that don't have tiny scrunched-up faces that look even goofier.
Only once did I ever make an elf face that I actually like. Finished the game with her, too...aaaaaand of course I don't have that save anymore.
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