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[FreshRevenge]

I would probably get a rig going probably by next month or by March. Starting with a Tower LOL. Than maybe getting each other component separately each month. I think that would be fun!

[ghostzodd]

FreshRevenge wrote...

Here is the truth and the facts. Bioware and EA knows that most people can't afford a 5,000 dollar rig or even a 2,000 dollar rig at being the lowest unless you want to settle for 1,500. So they look at it as a whole. Where is the most money going to be made, a PC gamer that has a high end computer or a console user that most people will have in their homes.

This whole idea that PC games are so much better when we got games like Metal Gear Solid 4 and Uncharted or The Last of Us and I know these are Sony exclusive games but the point is that saying because you have a pc is so much better become mute at that moment.

Now I got AC4 for my PS4 but I notice that the PS3 version really wasn't that different. I think they should focus on making this game for next gen consoles and for pc gamers. Only because than they don't have to worry about lowering the specifications for each system. Plus it might push the consumer to purchase a next gen console to get the better experience without paying a huge investment.

For those who have made that investment on putting together a rig up. It might not be that expensive to maintain afterwards.

Unless anyone here wants to hand me 5,000 dollars to get a computer and get the lastest and greatest, than at the moment I will be getting it for the PS4 because of all the other games that will be on the system. Personal preference.

I have considered building a rig but I need to look at my finances first before I make that commitment.

You have no Idea what so ever, about the subject you are talking about:O

[FreshRevenge]

ghostzodd wrote...

FreshRevenge wrote...

Here is the truth and the facts. Bioware and EA knows that most people can't afford a 5,000 dollar rig or even a 2,000 dollar rig at being the lowest unless you want to settle for 1,500. So they look at it as a whole. Where is the most money going to be made, a PC gamer that has a high end computer or a console user that most people will have in their homes.

This whole idea that PC games are so much better when we got games like Metal Gear Solid 4 and Uncharted or The Last of Us and I know these are Sony exclusive games but the point is that saying because you have a pc is so much better become mute at that moment.

Now I got AC4 for my PS4 but I notice that the PS3 version really wasn't that different. I think they should focus on making this game for next gen consoles and for pc gamers. Only because than they don't have to worry about lowering the specifications for each system. Plus it might push the consumer to purchase a next gen console to get the better experience without paying a huge investment.

For those who have made that investment on putting together a rig up. It might not be that expensive to maintain afterwards.

Unless anyone here wants to hand me 5,000 dollars to get a computer and get the lastest and greatest, than at the moment I will be getting it for the PS4 because of all the other games that will be on the system. Personal preference.

I have considered building a rig but I need to look at my finances first before I make that commitment.

You have no Idea what so ever, about the subject you are talking about:O

And you clearly do? Yeah let me go and purchase a real cheap computer without considering the longevity of these parts. What if I got the cheapest cooling fan and then a year later it starts to break. So I end up having to buy another cooling fan just because I went with the most basic cooling fan ever. Let me just buy the most cheapest graphics card just so I can barely play the minimal standard of games so next year they make a game that supersedes my current graphics card.

These are all variables that I am aware of. Don't claim that because I don't have a computer at the moment that I am totally clueless on the subject.

I wasn't attacking pc gamers or anything with my message. You may be a pc gamer and feel you want to jump on the bandwagon because the user said I was stupid. Yeah really smart!

Modifié par FreshRevenge, 23 janvier 2014 - 03:54 .

[ghostzodd]

FreshRevenge wrote...

ghostzodd wrote...

FreshRevenge wrote...

Here is the truth and the facts. Bioware and EA knows that most people can't afford a 5,000 dollar rig or even a 2,000 dollar rig at being the lowest unless you want to settle for 1,500. So they look at it as a whole. Where is the most money going to be made, a PC gamer that has a high end computer or a console user that most people will have in their homes.

This whole idea that PC games are so much better when we got games like Metal Gear Solid 4 and Uncharted or The Last of Us and I know these are Sony exclusive games but the point is that saying because you have a pc is so much better become mute at that moment.

Now I got AC4 for my PS4 but I notice that the PS3 version really wasn't that different. I think they should focus on making this game for next gen consoles and for pc gamers. Only because than they don't have to worry about lowering the specifications for each system. Plus it might push the consumer to purchase a next gen console to get the better experience without paying a huge investment.

For those who have made that investment on putting together a rig up. It might not be that expensive to maintain afterwards.

Unless anyone here wants to hand me 5,000 dollars to get a computer and get the lastest and greatest, than at the moment I will be getting it for the PS4 because of all the other games that will be on the system. Personal preference.

I have considered building a rig but I need to look at my finances first before I make that commitment.

You have no Idea what so ever, about the subject you are talking about:O

And you clearly do? Yeah let me go and purchase a real cheap computer without considering the longevity of these parts. What if I got the cheapest cooling fan and then a year later it starts to break. So I end up having to buy another cooling fan just because I went with the most basic cooling fan ever. Let me just buy  the most cheapest graphics card just so I can barely play the minimal standard of game so next year they make a game that supersedes my current graphics card.

These are all variables that I am aware of. Don't claim that because I don't have a computer at the moment that I am totally clueless on the subject.

I wasn't attacking pc gamers or anything with my message. You may be a pc gamer and feel you want to jump on the bandwagon because the user said I was stupid. Yeah really smart!

No. Its just someone who knows nothing about PC gaming would say something like that.

*Bioware and EA knows that most people can't afford a 5,000 dollar rig
or even a 2,000 dollar rig at being the lowest unless you want to settle
for 1,500*

If your going to talk about a subject then at least read up on it ,and know what it is about. you do not need a 1500 gaming rig, thats close to  ultra. and for 5000 lol that would get you the batman super computer.

I don't think your stupid just misinformed, You just have to get into PC gaming to really understand how it works.
Considering I have a custom built rig yea I think  I do know what I am talking about

Also you should never buy a gaming PC, just try and find someone who knows about building computers and, help you do a custom build

Modifié par ghostzodd, 23 janvier 2014 - 03:56 .

[wolfhowwl]

http://www.logicalincrements.com/

Modifié par wolfhowwl, 23 janvier 2014 - 03:55 .

[FreshRevenge]

one of my best friends spent about 5,000 dollars on his rig actually it was 6,000. This thing has neons lights and everything. It would look like the Batcomputer. He had multiple screens and basically you name it. It had it. Now I only made a reference of 5,000 as the most highest, not the most practical.

Modifié par FreshRevenge, 23 janvier 2014 - 04:02 .

[FreshRevenge]

wolfhowwl wrote...

http://www.logicalincrements.com/

So montrous is about 3,300 dollars? Also is that Lightning from Final Fantasy 13. I got the CE edition preordered.

[AppealToReason]

The Sin wrote...

ghostzodd wrote...

TKavatar wrote...

I hope it's built for PC first and then scaled down to current gen and then last gen.

http://www.videogame...nquisition.html

:wizard:Magic

The glorious PC master race is always the leader, no matter how many generational leaps peasants take.

**** YEAH! PC MUSTARD RICE FOR THE WIN!

Modifié par AppealToReason, 23 janvier 2014 - 04:52 .

[Zack_Nero]

Well, I think back in the gameinformer coverage month they explained that it is polygon difference for all. However, am sure that graphic wise there be a big difference, but they are going to try making some like Last of Us (my guess not there quote or anything) graphics standards at least for the PS3/Xbox 360. But no doubt about the fact that PS4/XboxOne/PC are superior ones.

[AppealToReason]

Zack_Nero wrote...

Well, I think back in the gameinformer coverage month they explained that it is polygon difference for all. However, am sure that graphic wise there be a big difference, but they are going to try making some like Last of Us (my guess not there quote or anything) graphics standards at least for the PS3/Xbox 360. But no doubt about the fact that PS4/XboxOne/PC are superior ones.

I'm not convinced the graphics will be scaled up anything past that we've really seen in other titles like AC4. 

I think I remember reading/watching/hearing during the GI coverage that the differences was going to be peripherals. Like number of NPCs walking around and extra trees and stuff like that.

[FreshRevenge]

Zack_Nero wrote...

Well, I think back in the gameinformer coverage month they explained that it is polygon difference for all. However, am sure that graphic wise there be a big difference, but they are going to try making some like Last of Us (my guess not there quote or anything) graphics standards at least for the PS3/Xbox 360. But no doubt about the fact that PS4/XboxOne/PC are superior ones.

I am sure that is more than just polygons that is going to be the only difference. I mean example could be particle effects or maybe more enemies on the screen without making it lag to death. Or maybe a weather system. I tweeted Dragon Age about a day  and night cycle or even a weather system. Maybe they could implement a TressFx for peoples hair.(Tomb Raider). Also having like having real blood show up on your clothing or armor. In DAO it just looked like red paint.

I want more character creation options. So that I could make my character look almost like anyone that I could imagine. So this would include height and weight options.

Maybe a reflection system on water. So you can see your reflection near water or mirrors. There were times that I would be near a mirror in DAO but I didn't see a reflection.

[igneous.sponge]

The game's been in development for a long time. It'd make sense if BioWare were targetting X360/PS3 to begin with and, as such, for those platforms serving as the foundation for the technical scope of what they wanted to achieve with DAI. Now, that's not necessarily terrible. We've seen this past generation that these consoles are capable of powering demanding, big-scope games — just look at GTA5, for instance. I'm sure the the hop over to Frostbite also helped the situation.

That said — and I'm just talking out of my arse here, really — probably the most limiting factor for DAI being developed cross-gen would be the rather limited memory pools for X360/PS3. That would be a pretty big factor, I imagine, when it comes to level complexity, number of on-screen characters, and particularly the number of available animations possible (as well as animation fidelity). I happen to remember a dev posting prior to the release of ME3 that their memory budget was so tight they had to cut the draw and holster animations. They'd still be working within that budget when developing DAI, and that'd have a potentially huge impact on the variety of animations possible in combat and dialogue that might've been much, much higher had DAI been developed solely for next-gen and PC. (Animation is also the next big hurdle for graphical fidelity, it's been said.) Now, we've heard Frostbite is better on the memory management side of things, but it remains to be seen by how much and if it really has that much of an edge over Eclipse such that animation variety could be noticeably increased. It's also possible BioWare would consider it worthwhile adding more animations to PC and XB1/PS4, but that seems a tad unlikely since we have to assume that a huge bulk of DAI's sales will come from the last-gen consoles, not to mention the difficulty in maintaining and testing divergent platform-specific animations.

The last-gen limitations for on-screen characters would also have ramifications for encounter design, I would think. Unless BioWare is willing to scale down the X360/PS3 versions such that enemy characters look like utter [excrement], I'd expect encounters to remain largely small-scale, the likes of which we're used to in DAO/DA2.

[ElitePinecone]

AppealToReason wrote...

I'm not convinced the graphics will be scaled up anything past that we've really seen in other titles like AC4. 

I think I remember reading/watching/hearing during the GI coverage that the differences was going to be peripherals. Like number of NPCs walking around and extra trees and stuff like that.

In the GI video, they explained that Frostbite enables them to create layers that can be turned on and off for the different consoles - so they can make a low-poly and a high-poly version of the same bridge, and only enable the detailed version on next-gen consoles. Depending on how far that system goes, buildings or cities could look quite different, in terms of detail, between the generations.

Like other people have said, I imagine weather effects and particle effects will be much better on the newer consoles, though that doesn't change much apart from making the game prettier. Grass and foliage will also undoubtedly be something that will look better on better systems.

FreshRevenge wrote...

I want more character creation options. So that I could make my character look almost like anyone that I could imagine. So this would include height and weight options.

Bioware have already confirmed that there's no system to adjust body shape/height/weight. 

[FreshRevenge]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Frostbite 3. Engine scalability.

Read up on it.

FreshRevenge wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

http://www.logicalincrements.com/

So montrous is about 3,300 dollars? Also is that Lightning from Final Fantasy 13. I got the CE edition preordered.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Nice. No CE here, but I preordered the basic game. A little worried about it, to be honest, but I still expect something good.

Well I wanted the pocket watch. It looked pretty nice. I enjoyed the first two games. I tried the demo that was out on the PS3. They have the demo for Xbox 360 so if that is what you got, than you try it. There is a few new combat changes. You can switch outfits on the fly which offer different powers and moves and tactics. It is a love it or hate it game. It is like Dragon Age 2. Some people loved it and some hate it unfortunately.

[Zack_Nero]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Yeah I know about the combat. Worried about the story, though.

But we'll see.

Same here

[Celtic Latino]

As long as it makes it on the 360 I'm good. Newer systems don't come cheap and I'm not exactly sold on PS4 or Xbox One.

[Naesaki]

Celtic Latino wrote...

As long as it makes it on the 360 I'm good. Newer systems don't come cheap and I'm not exactly sold on PS4 or Xbox One.

The PS4 needs a much bigger RPG library before i'll even consider it

[Cigne]

wolfhowwl wrote...

http://www.logicalincrements.com/

Thanks for posting the link.

I usually ignore the details of what's 'hot' when I'm not getting ready to upgrade or build a new system; and in th past I've used Anandtech's guides as a starting point.

If I decide to build this year instead of getting a console, I'll definitely be checking out that link.

[Raven X]

I hope it plays well on both the new and old consoles.

I'm getting it on the PS4, though.