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[JasonShepard]

ruggly wrote...

JasonShepard wrote...

I like aspects of ME3's ending. I dislike other aspects.

And my appreciation for what I like outweighs the rest.

Except my dislike outweighs what I do appreciate.

Eh, we're different people, we're allowed to have different opinions.  The world would be a boring place if everyone was exactly the same.

However, your profile pic has reminded me of how much I'm looking forward to ME2... uh, that is, the other  ME2. The one with excessive parkour, not the ME2 that came out in 2011. 

Modifié par JasonShepard, 22 janvier 2014 - 05:41 .

[CronoDragoon]

HYR 2.0 wrote...
I liked it at first because it felt like fighting in a legit war-zone, and the music was great.

Then I came here and everyone kept saying how it could have been so much more; now I hate and dread playing it. =[

That's unfortunate. I still enjoy Earth a great deal and think that the fact that it could have been done better doesn't mean it was done poorly. More focus on war assets gained through your choices is about the only thing I'd change.

[Wayning_Star]

I have to give Mass Effect a thumbs up, it's done well enough to pass many other games. Very entertaining, even as a re run. I'm upset cause there is always more 'stuff' to do, but.. that's not gonna happen, as Shepards been retired from cyber duty. There are few other games I like better really, other than their sheer "mass" of things to do in game. The "choices" things are expected in the game universe as is, you cannot really have choices in a universe that you have little to NO control over, much less actually destroy the evil denizen(s). We end up evolutionizing lol, well according to the star gazer bunch.

[ruggly]

JasonShepard wrote...

ruggly wrote...

JasonShepard wrote...

I like aspects of ME3's ending. I dislike other aspects.

And my appreciation for what I like outweighs the rest.

Except my dislike outweighs what I do appreciate.

Eh, we're different people, we're allowed to have different opinions.  The world would be a boring place if everyone was exactly the same.

However, your profile pic has reminded me of how much I'm looking forward to ME2... uh, that is, the other  ME2. The one with excessive parkour, not the ME2 that came out in 2011. 

Agreed, the first one is underrated, but Medge2 is looking quite niiiiice.

[Redbelle]

Just googled 'why ME3's ending were good'.......

The results are not convincing for attempting to explain why the ending was palpable to it's audience.The closest we get is that someone postulates that BW pitched the endings over our heads and that Shepard was being indoctrinated at the end....... which, since it uses the term 'indoctrination theory' shows the age of the post..... In fact scrolling up......

Yes, here we are! 21/3/2012

I mean.... C'mon! Surely there's something out there that explains in cold, clinical terms, why the ending was good!

[Nole]

I'm one of the four people who liked the ending (original and EC) and I have no problem admitting that is full of ****.

[CronoDragoon]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

You summed up my thoughts on the entire series in that single title. Its kinda lame and the writing ranges from alright to bad In comparison to better games. But I still enjoy it.

I can't think of many games that have better writing than Mass Effect. The Last of Us, perhaps Uncharted 3, Final Fantasy Tactics (yes, I have to dig back that far), Legacy of Kain. Any others? Maybe I'll find a new game to play.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 22 janvier 2014 - 05:53 .

[Wayning_Star]

Most of the "other" games out here have no writing in them, don't need it. ME has the story stuff. Sure we can knock it, but cannot deny that ME series has it.

[dreamgazer]

Redbelle wrote...

Surely there's something out there that explains in cold, clinical terms, why the ending was good!

I'm not sure exactly what you're wanting.  You're trying to quantify something that's entirely subjective.

You can coldly and clinically dissect every ending in the trilogy and make them all look bad.

[Redbelle]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

You summed up my thoughts on the entire series in that single title. Its kinda lame and the writing ranges from alright to bad In comparison to better games. But I still enjoy it.

I can't think of many games that have better writing than Mass Effect. The Last of Us, perhaps Uncharted 3, Final Fantasy Tactics (yes, I have to dig back that far), Legacy of Kain. Any others? Maybe I'll find a new game to play.

The Walking Dead?

[CronoDragoon]

Redbelle wrote...

The Walking Dead?

Can't argue with that, it's pretty damn good. I don't know if its "better" but it's good enough for me to bow to subjective taste there.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 22 janvier 2014 - 05:59 .

[Wayning_Star]

the Lazarus technology still exists.

[AlanC9]

Redbelle wrote...

Just googled 'why ME3's ending were good'.......

The results are not convincing for attempting to explain why the ending was palpable to it's audience.The closest we get is that someone postulates that BW pitched the endings over our heads and that Shepard was being indoctrinated at the end....... which, since it uses the term 'indoctrination theory' shows the age of the post..... In fact scrolling up......

Yes, here we are! 21/3/2012

I mean.... C'mon! Surely there's something out there that explains in cold, clinical terms, why the ending was good!

Have you tried "why ME3's endings were OK" or similar? There aren't very many ending lovers out there. Nobody ever said there were. I'm not even sure who this thread is supposed to be about.

Modifié par AlanC9, 22 janvier 2014 - 06:02 .

[JasonShepard]

Redbelle wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

You summed up my thoughts on the entire series in that single title. Its kinda lame and the writing ranges from alright to bad In comparison to better games. But I still enjoy it.

I can't think of many games that have better writing than Mass Effect. The Last of Us, perhaps Uncharted 3, Final Fantasy Tactics (yes, I have to dig back that far), Legacy of Kain. Any others? Maybe I'll find a new game to play.

The Walking Dead?

I'm not sure Telltale's Walking Dead qualifies as a 'game'. Game implies that it is interactive entertainment.

I'd personally refer to it as an expertly crafted interactive crying experience. And as that, it is awesome.

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OT: For the Cold and Clinical approach to what I like about ME3's ending:
At the very least, there's the interesting question of "Sacrifice the Geth for safety" or "Run the risk of leaving the Reapers alive so you can save everyone".
And the Control ending raises some interesting philosophical issues about identity.

Modifié par JasonShepard, 22 janvier 2014 - 06:05 .

[Wayning_Star]

AlanC9 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Just googled 'why ME3's ending were good'.......

The results are not convincing for attempting to explain why the ending was palpable to it's audience.The closest we get is that someone postulates that BW pitched the endings over our heads and that Shepard was being indoctrinated at the end....... which, since it uses the term 'indoctrination theory' shows the age of the post..... In fact scrolling up......

Yes, here we are! 21/3/2012

I mean.... C'mon! Surely there's something out there that explains in cold, clinical terms, why the ending was good!

Have you tried "why ME3's endings were OK" or similar? There aren't very many ending lovers out there. Nobody ever said there were. I'm not even sure who this thread is supposed to be about.

the OP is fishing, in hopes to find 'another' list of complaint about the ending of ME, even though there isn't any, the star gazer scene actually proves that. As far as "bad ending" we'd need to know the absolute to bad, or is bad an absolute? confusing.

edit: The Problem with Absolute Thinking

Modifié par Wayning_Star, 22 janvier 2014 - 06:08 .

[Farangbaa]

JasonShepard wrote...
OT: For the Cold and Clinical approach to what I like about ME3's ending:
At the very least, there's the interesting question of "Sacrifice the Geth for safety" or "Run the risk of leaving the Reapers alive so you can save everyone".
And the Control ending raises some interesting philosophical issues about identity.

But that's not what people want, apparantly. People want a "and then they kissed and everything was good" ending.

Which is why "I GOT NO CLOSURE!!!11!!!" was a much heard complaint.

I loved the ending for it's bleakness, but apparantly I'm an anomaly.

[Wayning_Star]

I dunno, the star gazer scene says everything works out??

[MattFini]

Psychevore wrote...

JasonShepard wrote...
OT: For the Cold and Clinical approach to what I like about ME3's ending:
At the very least, there's the interesting question of "Sacrifice the Geth for safety" or "Run the risk of leaving the Reapers alive so you can save everyone".
And the Control ending raises some interesting philosophical issues about identity.

But that's not what people want, apparantly. People want a "and then they kissed and everything was good" ending.

Which is why "I GOT NO CLOSURE!!!11!!!" was a much heard complaint.

I loved the ending for it's bleakness, but apparantly I'm an anomaly.

I don't think it needed to be either/or.

I kind of like the severity of the ending choices, and I think people would have swallowed them whole if the game could've also added a little epiglogue addendum that showed what happened to the crew following the war. The EC slides are better, but still a little impersonal as far as closure for the cast is concerned.

Speaking from my own experience with ME3, I remember finishing the game and liking what they were trying to do with the decision chamber, but felt cold about it too becuase we never really got to see how it impacted our crew afterwards.

 

Modifié par MattFini, 22 janvier 2014 - 06:13 .

[Mathias]

 This is why I can never understand people who think the ending was good. As in well written. Liking the ending is one thing, but genuinely thinking it was well executed is another. People can accuse ending haters of being upset because they didn't get that happy ending where Shepard lives. Well that is certaintely true to a point, at least for me and I'm sure many others. But what a lot of the Ending Defenders fail to realize is that ME3's ending was more of a failure on an Academic level, than an Artistic one.

If you look at the ending structurally, it really is just a Perfect Storm of terrible writing. The only explanation for it's existance is that it was poorly thought out and written in a very short amount of time. Otherwise it's hard to fathom how something like this could come from people who are suppose to be professional writers. There's a reason that when ME3 first came out, there were other writers on the internet taking pot shots at Bioware. Because it was such a colossal failure it was like a bad joke.

We're talking about an ending that is SO bad, that people genuinely believed it wasn't real and Bioware was messing with us. Seriously think about that. In terms of reactions from your audience, that's pretty damn bad.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 22 janvier 2014 - 06:29 .

[Liamv2]

Everyone is wrong but me.

[GimmeDaGun]

Liamv2 wrote...

Everyone is wrong but me.

You're terribly wrong my friend. Everybody knows that it' ME who's right... always and ever.

[jamesp81]

StreetMagic wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Same could be said for the entire trilogy, really.

Just watch people try and defend ME2's plot.

Do any ME2 fans really defend it's plot?

I defend it because of the characters. And the swagger. Something about Shep is slightly Bruce Campbell-ish. :happy:

For me, despite its flaws (which were many) ME2 had the sort of heroic feel to it that I wanted and it also had, by far, the best sound track of the three.  Don't underestimate a good sound track; it can make or break the experience.

[Liamv2]

StreetMagic wrote...

Liamv2 wrote...

Everyone is wrong but me.

You're right.

And then the galaxy exploded.