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[Ieldra]

Elhanan wrote...
Do not trust reviewers in the first place, as this is a fairly well known tactic. However, I have seen my trust earned with Bioware over the years, and I plan on getting DAI despite of what the pros, gaming sites, etc have to say.

The DA team has earned my trust and retains it so far. DA2 had its flaws, but the aspects I care about most were still good enough. The ME team has squandered my trust - a remarkable feat considering how I tend to stick to my game universes once hooked. Consequently, I will buy DAI unless pre-release information tells me it might not be what I want (currently, things look good), but I'll wait for reviews I think I can trust before I touch the next ME game.

[Liamv2]

I trust bioware game reviews as much as any other review. That is to say not in the slightest.

[Sekou]

There seems to be some confusion between a Let's Play video and a critical review from the gaming press.  Someone like Adam Sessler or Game Informer has cred and professional standards.  A LP Youtuber is just a dude making a vid and not a press professional.  The latter I take with a grain of salt.

I have no problem if EA wants to take this approach.  I thnk it's cynical, but entirely a legitimate marketing strategy.

In the end, ultimately up to the individual to make up their mind to buy or not.

[thebatmanreborn]

I used to review games for a large entertainment magazine and I can vouch that no gaming company ever paid me off to write positive reviews. Granted, I haven't professional reviewed a game in...wow, 8 years. But still, I don't see people attacking movie studios/critics of similar tactics. So why so much focus on game critics?

[AutumnWitch]

thebatmanreborn wrote...

I used to review games for a large entertainment magazine and I can vouch that no gaming company ever paid me off to write positive reviews. Granted, I haven't professional reviewed a game in...wow, 8 years. But still, I don't see people attacking movie studios/critics of similar tactics. So why so much focus on game critics?

Did you really? Ok so I have to ask..as a franchise (the whole banana not just one game) what grade do you give the Dragon Age Intellectual Property?

And....(always interested in hearing from a pro) what is you top five games?

[Mecha Elf]

I usually only watch Angry Joe for reviews because he's really honest and passionate about video games. Plus he's a dragon age fan so I'm expecting a review on DA:I when it comes out.

[Deadmac]

I use to hang out at a fairly well known science-fiction forum. While looking at the forum and members from the outside, you would think it was run by an honest fan base. After getting involved with the forum, I learned about what happens behind the scenes. As a new game or product came out, the owner was given perks in exchange for positive advertising.

Come to think about it - BioWare (pre-EA) use to give the site owner early access to games and inside information. I am not sure if BioWare is still involved with the forum.

I am surprised and not surprised about the recent news.

When it comes to the release of "Dragon Age: Inquisition", I hope we get a beta prior to making a purchase. I will admit that "Dragon Age: Inquisition" looks great. I just hope the end product meets expectations.

I am glad that BioWare is not over hyping "Dragon Age: Inquisition".

I would rather play a beta than read articles from critics.

What Game Informer and GameStop have to say about a game is irrelevant.

Modifié par Deadmac, 22 janvier 2014 - 11:20 .

[Nefla]

Viktoria Landers wrote...

Angry Joe Show.

Yeah I like Angry Joe

Any potential buyer should look for a reviewer who's critique of previous games matches their own tastes. That way they can get a good idea if the game in question is something they will like.

[Ninja Stan]

I don't think this changes anything at all. Gamers will always find reviewers whose voices and opinions they trust, websites that they will find more trustworthy than others, and communities they will agree with over others. None of that changes.

It's not like suddenly you are absolved of doing your research and forming your own opinion based on reviews, previews, and media coverage. You still bear the responsibility of making your own buying decision.

[lady_v23]

How about... watching the gameplay, or seeing a walkthrough, or reading the plot?

[Martyr1777]

Best way to gauge reviews of a game...

Open up metacritic, ignore the most highly rated and lowest rated reviews then READ the larger well thought out middle reviews. That's were you find unbiased reviews.

[MKDAWUSS]

Sometimes thumbing through the comments section can be more reliable than the main review article.

[Deadmac]

Ninja Stan wrote...
I don't think this changes anything at all. Gamers will always find reviewers whose voices and opinions they trust, websites that they will find more trustworthy than others, and communities they will agree with over others. None of that changes.

It's not like suddenly you are absolved of doing your research and forming your own opinion based on reviews, previews, and media coverage. You still bear the responsibility of making your own buying decision.

I agree with existentialism in general. When everything is said and done, the individual is solely responsible for what he or she does.

On the flip of the argument, the information we consume has to be honest. If the fan based reviews are being bought, the door opens for the possibility of deceptive advertising.

Someone game company just got busted for deceptive advertising. As a result of the game tailor not matching the product, the consumer protections agency had somehow became involved. I think it was an "Aliens" title.

Martyr1777 wrote...

Best way to gauge reviews of a game...

Open
up metacritic, ignore the most highly rated and lowest rated reviews
then READ the larger well thought out middle reviews. That's were you
find unbiased reviews.

I try to do that on Barnes and Nobel.

lady_v23 wrote...

How about... watching the gameplay, or seeing a walkthrough, or reading the plot?

Reading the back of a game or book is the first step. You have to dig below the surface to see how well a game is developed.

Modifié par Deadmac, 22 janvier 2014 - 11:38 .

[wolfhowwl]

"trust reviewers now"

Did Dragon Age 2 getting reviews like "The best RPG combat ever. Not gaming’s best story, but maybe its best storytelling. Darker, sexier, better. 94/100" not teach you anything?

[AppealToReason]

Bioware has not done this before and I cannot see them doing it in the future.

[Deflagratio]

Critical reviews are only a good place to start. Learn what you personally look for in a game, and acknowledge the fact that no game is or ever will be perfect. If a critical review of a game makes no mention of negative points, even if it's just an issue of personal taste (Didn't like the characters, for example), then it's almost certainly an insincere review.

Don't just be on the lookout for overly positive reviews though, there's a surge in the "Contrarian gaming press" lately, where every game that isn't indie is automatically bad. These opinions are equally harmful to the state of gaming, as one visit to Steam Greenlight or Early Access programs can tell a consumer with even the most infantile perceptive abilities that for every DayZ, Minecraft or Papers, Please, we've got dozens of Day One: Gary's Incidents.

Martyr1777 wrote...

 That's were you find unbiased reviews.

There's no such thing as an "Unbiased review", because there's no way to objectively measure art.

Modifié par Deflagratio, 22 janvier 2014 - 11:50 .

[Aaleel]

I hardly use reviews. I do my own research into a game and I have two friends I trust a lot, I know one of them is getting it pre-order day 1. We're all good at saying I like this but it may not be your type of game/movie/restaurant, etc.

If I do read some reviews I always stick to the 5 - 7 range, and avoid the extremities.  The ones in the middle are usually more in depth, have pros and cons, and are usually the most helpful for finding out actual facts about the game.

Modifié par Aaleel, 22 janvier 2014 - 11:54 .

[Masha Potato]

Trust is for the foolish. And the dead

[Banxey]

I've played some horrible games thanks to reviews and so I never listen to them. There are games everyone seems to love (RAGE) that I hate. And games people think are meh (The Saboteur - even with it's issues) that I really enjoyed. I usually buy games if they seem interesting. Which is why I have a shelf of unplayed games. 

[AlanC9]

I still haven't figured out how a Let's Play vid could misrepresent the game even if you wanted to make it do so.

[llandwynwyn]

Almost everyone does it. That's why I really only trust myself.