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IMO the pistol is the ONLY weapon you will ever need (sniper rifle is almost useless as all the targets are either too close or running around, for me in any case), and light armor gives the most biotic protection. With this in mind, and with your penchant for engineers, I would say eng, or maybe sentinel. You want biotics in your team? Take Liara. Need heavier firepower? Take Ashley. Want biotics AND firepower? Take Wrex. I love engineer tho, so I am VERY biased!



As a side note, I am doing a Vanguard playthrough atm and it's awesome fun :)

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My game save is a Sentinel. The Sentinel was not bad with the pistol. The mods really boost damage. The versatility of the Sentinel is what I really liked. Disabling weapon systems and shields was a great asset. Throw in ummm...errr....Throw and lift and it really makes for an enjoyable experience. I like both the Sentinel and Adept, however I somehow erased my Adept save and will need to run through the game again. Not too much of an issue because I can use the cconsole if I lose my patience with another playthrough.

In the end go with what you like.

Modifié par Drakist, 21 janvier 2010 - 08:24 .


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The other major advantage to using a pistol-only class is that the thing rarely overheats - if ever! Not that I would try using HE rounds in it... lol

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yeah, I am trying to set down and play. I have restarted I think 3 times now, I got the citadel on all three times but just got there. My problem is i am trying to deside how I want to do this. Should I play through, I want to go all good, but at the same time I want to be total bad in it. I mean when I played WoW or Overlord 1 and 2 I go total evil as I can. Only because most game make you go the goodie too shoes and its fun to be the other way. But when I start to play something about ths story just makes me feel like being good. becuase to me as a rp stance he seems like he is good, but maybe Its my fault, the first start I picked the spacer/hero and listing to the 2 talk at the beginning its just stuck with me. And now I am starting to think about should I do a few play throws to get everything unlock for ME2 or just one play throw, I have already download ME2 from D2D just got to wait until 26th to open it. So I am confussed what I should do, but I want to get started.

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The best way for you to play is to just say what you feel like saying at the time. For example, you mentioned Alenko and Joker chatting at the beginning (on the Normandy). I'm currently playingas a Paragon, but here I thought their banter was unprofessional so I said the appropriate thing for a higher ranking officer to say. "That's enough. You're soldiers, act like it!".



Even Jesus or Ghandi would be firm at times - it doesn't make your character 'evil'. Also, default Shep is neither Paragon nor Renegade. He's still a complete badas s though.



Just relax and be who you WANT to be. If you want to impose limitations on yourself, try being a Paragon to 'nice' people, and Renegade to all the scum.

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your thinking too much. just load the game and start lifting enemies into outer space. worry about the consequences when your done with ME3.

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Sounds good, So just forget about the good or bad as s. just say what you as a Rp would say in that. is there any really reason for trying to be 100% good or rouge, i mean does it unlock something or give you a BFG or something, and can you be 100% good or rouge even if you do one or the other? I know i can be 50% of the time be rouge then 50% of the time be good the go OH i am not 100% rouge at the end, but there is some give and take to the system, you dont have to go 100% good to get 100% in the end?

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Awesome Helmet wrote...

your thinking too much. just load the game and start lifting enemies into outer space. worry about the consequences when your done with ME3.



lol, i love this statement, I am starting to come to that.

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Awesome Helmet wrote...

your thinking too much. just load the game and start lifting enemies into outer space. worry about the consequences when your done with ME3.


Good advice, can't go wrong with master lift. That **** levitates a collosus!

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And one last question about this before I load up and go into space to kick synthetic butt, on the charm or rouge skills, should I put in points if I am only going to play through 1 time, then start ME2 or is the charm and rogue kind of just a RP thing? I will probley do a few run throws after i have bet ME2 but i figured I will play one time throw and then move to ME2 with that toon. because If i try to unlock everything ME& will be out before I get to ME2 lol

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You can play through the whole game with zero charm/intimidate. There is more money to be made by using them, and maybe some more xp (I could be wrong) as well as an achievement for solving an impossible situation using either one or the other, but at the end of the day it doesn't make a huge difference.



!!!!!!SPOILER WARNING!!!!!!

!!!!!!SPOILER WARNING!!!!!!

!!!!!!SPOILER WARNING!!!!!!











Wrex will die if you don't do 1 of two things:

1) Find his family armour, or

2) Put as many points into either Charm or Intimidate BEFORE going to Virmire

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OK thank you, so after dinner I will be starting my toon, I am not going to think about good or rogue as far as that goes, but i am starting to near it down to engineer or sentinal. I fugire that its normal shoot but with those 2 its more then a shooter. I played a game long ago called system shock 2 i played a adept basically when it would have been easier to play a solider. and I enjoyed it, I figure the adept ablity of lift and throw is what makes this game different and fun, to see what you can do to your enemies. Also the hacking is a different thing and I want to open all the boxes and computers I can, so i figure those 2 will be my best shot. might end up playing both some to see which i like better.

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Oh man, you are gonna LOVE Wrex!

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your squad mates can open containers for you tho so dont worry about your character having elec/decryp. if you like using abilities you should really play a sentinel. the sentinel has so much to offer you really cant go wrong. your first run through will be on an easier setting if your worried about having only basic marksman with the pistol. throw/lift/ stasis are all the biotics you need and decryp and electronics are all the tech you need. sortof. the sentinel also allows you to bring along any 2 squaddies you want which is great if your looking to get introduced to all the characters in just one play through. even though youll prolly take wrex and garrus with you all the time anyways cuz they are bad friggin ass. but if your looking to not be dissapointed in a build, the sentinel is your best bet.

Modifié par Awesome Helmet, 23 janvier 2010 - 05:53 .


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Is good to end up play through enough to get max charm and intimidate? or is it better just to have one maxed out?

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if you're talking about trying to make a "perfect" me1 character by grinding out charm and intimidate versus putting skill points into them then in order to max them out completely (both of them) you need four playthroughs.



To max out one of them (through this manner) you need three playthroughs.



If you plan on being mostly paragon then don't worry about the intimidate points. If you plan to do only one playthrough with this guy then go ahead and splurge skill points into charm to help you with the decision making and negotiating. If you plan on more than one playthrough then you should get 4 charm points on the first run (if you max out your paragon meter) another four on the second and still another 4 on the third.



If you plan on being mostly a renegade character then do the exact same only for intimidate.

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but for the save file for ME2 should I try to max both out, or is there no real reason other then to get the selling bonus if your going all paragon and the get the store discount if your going all renegade?

Just want to know if it will be worht the time of 4 play throughts before to get a great toon before moving over to ME2?

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ok, there's a difference between the perfect me1 character and the perfect me2 import character, let me just say that first

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oh ok so a perfect me1 is just one of them maxed, perferct me2 import is both?

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perfect me1: you want to get a bonus talent to start with (only available if you unlocked it on a previous playthrough with a different character on the same profile), find a build that will suit your gameplay, and then ideally you want to max out both charm and intimidate. on your first playthrough I found you can't get more than 7 points (4 in charm and 3 in intimidate or vice versa) through grinding. on the following playthroughs there's a glitch on noveria that gives you infinite renegade and/or paragon points that do most of the grinding for you (so the next two playthroughs will include maybe a few sidequests but mostly the main storyline just to grind out those points). on the fourth playthrough all your skills should be maxed, you're a millionaire, 999 omni-gel, excellent gear, a level 60, but you're still missing the final point in either charm or intimidate. what's worse is if you plan on importing "this" character then you have to spend 40-50 hours making sure you nail every possible sidequest and decision out there for the best possible transfer into me2.



phew! in other words, it's a hell of a lot of work.



perfect me2 import character is an entirely different slice of pizza. for one the only things that mater with the import are if you are level 40 something, level 50 something, or level 60. depending on which bracket you fall into you will get an experience bonus at the start of me2. the other two include whether or not if your import character has the rich achievement and then your renegade and paragon percentages.



gear, builds, and everything else doesn't matter at all



i wouldn't worry too much about the experience bonus, on one playthrough if you do almost everything on foot and nail every quest and - well - everything you can easily get to level 55 or 56 or 57 and i believe 58 is the max you can get in one playthrough. it's not level 60 but it's more than enough of an experience boost for me2.



the rich achievement, do all of the above and you'll have it.



which leads paragon/renegade percentages and decisions/choices. me2 is working on a different persuasion skill system than in me1. in short, the higher you renegade or paragon meter in me2 the more dialogue options are available.



example: my paragon meter is at 50% but my renegade is at 20%. when the dialogue tree comes up i'll be able to use the paragon (blue) dialogue option more times than the renegade (red) option. the exception is interrupts, no matter what your paragon/renegade status whenever one pops up you can click on it. but we're getting off topic.



in order to give you the boost for either the persuasion skills in me2 you need to crank up either the paragon or renegade meters in me1. the higher the paragon meter on your import the higher the paragon negotiating skill you get in me2, vice versa with renegade.



so, in order to avoid the headache of multiple playthroughs spend some points in either charm or intimidate for your import - get the higher dialogue options early on to make those really neat negotiating options (example, there are several times you can talk people out of fighting by convincing them its hopeless to win over you). there are other options of course but for the sake of not spoiling the game, let you find them out yourself.



noveria has the paragon/renegade infinite points glitch and to find out more about that look it up in mass effect wiki or something. otherwise... that is it for the perferct me2 import



any other questions, feel free to ask

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OK thanks, I wasnt sure what would carry though with me. I was worried that If I just did one that by leaving the other out I would miss something. But what what I am seeing, to make the best transfer file, i need the rich achievement and 60 right? the paragon or renegade will not transfer just the ach. and then when I play through is will pick up those like i did in here. or does it, and what if your 50%50% then its a gamble? sorry this will be my first time playing a game that uses the save file for one for the other. Also I am way behind on getting a great transfer file. I would reither behind a few weeks then not and miss something that will make my life easier in ME2

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i hear yah



the noveria glitch pushes both meters too 100% so really it's this endgame decision that will decide your ultimate morality - but that's something else



using the glitch you will get the fullest persausion skill bonus possible but in order to use it (charm for example) you already need 4 charm points to begin with. same goes with intimidate.



getting your character to 60... throw it on casual, turn aiming assist on high, and just speed run through most of the sidequests and main quest on your first playthrough (if you miss some don't worry) just make sure you are a high level 40 by the time you beat it. second runthrough you need to do everything in order to make sure every choice that can carry over will carry over. best to use an in depth walkthrough for this and since you already played the game once it won't be spoiler heavy. by the end you'll be 60 and by using the glitch have both meters at 100%

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where is the best place to get this in depth walkthrough, to make sure I do it right the second time?

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gamefaqs are usually the best free online since if the author misses something they'll get an email from a reader and immediately make corrections



http://www.gamefaqs....ame/930279.html



i find that the ones with the biggest file size are usually the most complete

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dangit, your making me antsy. heres an idea. stop comming here, put ME in your xbox and start playing it! youve got like 4 days till ME2 comes out. the thing is your character will never be a level 60, nor will it have a bonus talent, so you wont have a "perfect" character to import anyways. so just get that sentinel started!