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[jaza]

hhh89 wrote...

Rassler wrote...

Didn't the Dales as an elven nation completely and utterly defeated Orlais? It was the exalted marches that made the Dales fall, Orlais was losing in every single front. I could remember wrong though. Too much lore to remember :|

So if this is true and other nations are too busy to help the Dalish elves indeed can revolt and take back Dales, for how long I don't know.

According to WoT, the other nations didn't partecipare in the Exalted March against the Dales. Though templars and mages likely did.
It's not relevant how strong the Dales were though. The city elves aren't trained to fight, and the dalish are few in numbers. The elves don't have the same military power that they had during the war against Orlais.

Yep, Orlais was pretty much the driving force behind that particular campaign.

[myahele]

I'm pretty sure they'll gain back the arlathan forest, but for how long?

Civilizations rise amd crumble. They'll gain it back, but will lose it eventually. Now elves are seperated btwn being a dalish or being a city elf.

Unless you are a mage, some or most dalish clan will not accept city elves. Even then you are treated differently

[Wothen]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Then the Sixth Blight can occur right in the middle of Par Vollen and the Qunari get an ass kicking since they don't have Wardens and I doubt anyone will come to their aid until the Blight finished them off.

Odds are the qunari evacuate Par Vollen and pound that **** with cannons day in day out until the horde is splintered
Or they just leave the tevinter to take it, then retake it after they "cleared it"

Im pretty sure that apart from being unable  of killing the archdemon, they can deal with a blight alone


Anyway this scenario is unlikely as there are no deep roads passing under Par Vollen

Modifié par Wothen, 25 janvier 2014 - 08:21 .

[LobselVith8]

myahele wrote...

I'm pretty sure they'll gain back the arlathan forest, but for how long?

Civilizations rise amd crumble. They'll gain it back, but will lose it eventually. Now elves are seperated btwn being a dalish or being a city elf.

Unless you are a mage, some or most dalish clan will not accept city elves. Even then you are treated differently

I respectfully disagree. Pol was accepted by the Dalish, and he wasn't a mage; Aneirin was saved as a child by the Dalish when the templars left him for dead, so I highly doubt the boy was in a position to show the clan that he was a mage.

[myahele]

^^^
Yeah I agree with much you said. But according to Zevran he went to find the dalish only to be rejected (I think)

The thing is each clan is different. And it seems like the ferelden clans are alot more liberal than the antivan ones

[LobselVith8]

myahele wrote...

^^^
Yeah I agree with much you said. But according to Zevran he went to find the dalish only to be rejected (I think)

The thing is each clan is different. And it seems like the ferelden clans are alot more liberal than the antivan ones

Zevran says he's heard the Dalish in Antiva City are more violent. He also said his mother was Dalish.

[Zerker]

I don't think it would be a good idea for the dalish to seek freedom during this war.

No one really has time for them with so much at stake, the military response to the Dalish incursion would be much swifter and brutal just to keep them out of the already messed up equation.

It must be remembered that the armies of human nations are potentially intact; and without the guidance of the Chantry via exalted marches, the Dalish military would most likely assume the position of a herd of sheep thrown into a forest full of wolves all dying to get a piece in frenzy.

Fereldan Civil War would be ideal for them to claim small portions of defensible land and fortify them, if there was no Blight at all. It would be best for the Dalish to forge more unlikely alliances, and prey on much weaker areas safely away from Human or Qunari superpowers.

Anderfels, with Grey Wardens acting as the main military and behind the curtains governors of it -if I remember correct-, couldn't care less about portions of unused and dangerous wilds areas being claimed by Dalish Elves, potential trade partners, another pool of Warden recruitment, and an element that would bolster the country's defenses, considering their bond and fondness of the Wardens. That's just one example.

Modifié par Maddok900, 26 janvier 2014 - 03:06 .

[TK514]

Maddok900 wrote...
Anderfels, with Grey Wardens acting as the main military and behind the curtains governors of it -if I remember correct-, couldn't care less about portions of unused and dangerous wilds areas being claimed by Dalish Elves, potential trade partners, another pool of Warden recruitment, and an element that would bolster the country's defenses, considering their bond and fondness of the Wardens. That's just one example.

I like this train of thought.  By working more closely with the Wardens, there's the potential for them to be associated with the Wardens in popular thought over time.  By sticking to the wilds of the Anderfells, they minimize human contact, and thus conflict.  Together, and again over time, it's possible that the edges of their negative reputation would be worn away by isolation and Warden association.

Certainly better outcome than pissing off an entire continent by attacking a human nation in the middle of a universal crisis.

[Iron Fist]

If only the Dalish and the surface dwarves would unite...

[KiwiQuiche]

Wothen wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Then the Sixth Blight can occur right in the middle of Par Vollen and the Qunari get an ass kicking since they don't have Wardens and I doubt anyone will come to their aid until the Blight finished them off.

Odds are the qunari evacuate Par Vollen and pound that **** with cannons day in day out until the horde is splintered
Or they just leave the tevinter to take it, then retake it after they "cleared it"

Im pretty sure that apart from being unable  of killing the archdemon, they can deal with a blight alone


Anyway this scenario is unlikely as there are no deep roads passing under Par Vollen

lol yeah whatever 'cause I'm sure the Qunari can just walk into another country easy as. And it's not like Tevinters been kicking them in the face for the past few centuries of anything. No, since the Archdemon is the driving intent behind a Blight, they just can't 'deal with it' on their own.

Old Gods don't live in the Deep Roads- the darkspawn have to dig for them, so that is irrelevant.

[Legbiter]

Eh, if the Dalish took over some land, the Maker-forsaken wretches would swiftly pick it over and starve come the winter. They have no concept of permanence, they just live in the now, use it now, eat it now, f*ck it now.

Modifié par Legbiter, 26 janvier 2014 - 02:40 .

[KC_Prototype]

hhh89, iI love you! Your answer is a perfect response to the "Death to all shems" comment.

[BronzTrooper]

hhh89 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

KIll all the shems!!!!

Pray your false gods, knife-ears. The Maker will guide my sword through your heathen's heart.

I will not bow to any shem.  Pray to your human god before my blade removes your head from your shoulders.  I shall watch your body fall with the satisfaction of knowing that I have slain one of those responsible for the suffering of the elvhen.