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[Fetunche]

Michel put his own personal honour before his country that makes him an ass in my opinion.

[ladyofpayne]

Michel put his own personal honour before his country that makes him an ass in my opinion.

Please tell us more.

[ElitePinecone]

THANK YOU

 

Just finding one honorable one that's not obnoxious in some way is really all I want at this point. Didn't want the whole country to be... so one-dimensional like that.

 

Yay, I have hope!

 

Without spoilers, even characters that initially appear evil and self-serving may end up being honourable from a certain point of view. 

 

 

The complexity of the characters is one of the best parts of the novel - I hope Inquisition has this level of writing, it's pretty exciting. 

[Jaulen]

Bought the book on Kindle last night, read it in a little over 3 hours.

 

Enjoyable read.

The use of 'and' too much on the first page, and a couple of word-use issues later (which I think might possibly have been due to spell check using the wrong word?) but decent writing that picked up further along.

Liked the characters.

 

Liked Gaspard by the end, more so than Celene.

Although working in government, I can understand that changes come slowly, and a leader that forces change isn't a leader very long. Bri understood that at the start, but now....

 

The ending epilogue made me "aaaaaahhhh! I need more info!!!"

 

Interesting implications for DA:I

[Hellion Rex]

Michel put his own personal honour before his country that makes him an ass in my opinion.

Oh, bull crap. He wanted to track down a freaking Forbidden One that he was responsible for unleashing. I'd say doing that is much more important than his country at the moment.

[TKavatar]

Oh, bull crap. He wanted to track down a freaking Forbidden One that he was responsible for unleashing. I'd say doing that is much more important than his country at the moment.

I am 99% sure it's up to us to slay the demon in Inquisition. Michel will be our quest giver or else we will find his corpse along with his journal and use that to track down it.

[Fetunche]

He could have ended the civil war before it had properly begun but he didn't , the demon was his responsibility, he should clean up his own mess.

[Heimdall]

He could have ended the civil war before it had properly begun but he didn't , the demon was his responsibility, he should clean up his own mess.

I agree

Though partly because I'm rooting for Celene

[Hellion Rex]

Meh, whatever. I still really liked him, and would like to see him and possibly help him combat Imshael.

[AresKeith]

THANK YOU

Just finding one honorable one that's not obnoxious in some way is really all I want at this point. Didn't want the whole country to be... so one-dimensional like that.

Yay, I have hope!

But you gotta learn how to play the Game.... of Thrones

[Stella-Arc]

Bought the book on Kindle last night, read it in a little over 3 hours.

 

Enjoyable read.

The use of 'and' too much on the first page, and a couple of word-use issues later (which I think might possibly have been due to spell check using the wrong word?) but decent writing that picked up further along.

Liked the characters.

 

Liked Gaspard by the end, more so than Celene.

Although working in government, I can understand that changes come slowly, and a leader that forces change isn't a leader very long. Bri understood that at the start, but now....

 

The ending epilogue made me "aaaaaahhhh! I need more info!!!"

 

Interesting implications for DA:I

 

See, this is why I love the book. All the characters are morally gray and by the end, I couldn't tell who is right or wrong. I suppose that was the point and this novel was one of the best I have ever read (recently). The beginning was slow and barely descriptive and a few word choices had me scratching my head later on but overall, it had be biting my nails the whole time. Even though it's fantasy, the way Weekes wrote it made it seem more down to Earth. It dealt with betrayal, racism, romance and, political intrigue. At first, I hated Gaspard but now....I have no clue. Both him and Celene are not saints nor are they evil. 

 

One of the things I love from the book is how well Weekes weaved real-life institutions such as:

 

Spoiler

....Chevaliers final initiation being similar to that of Sparta's Krypteia.

 

By the time DA:I rolls around, I know I will be torn between Gaspard and Celene and I have a feeling that Briala will probably be the drop that overflows the cup.

 

Spoiler

I'm surprised that Briala is willing to prolong the Civil War because this will make her just as bad as Gaspard and Celene. While both of them want the throne to help Orlais, Briala only wishes to help the elves and with her manipulating both sides, a lot more lives will be lost as a result. She even admitted that sending Celene to Val Royeaux could end the war quickly but decided against it. 

 

Yes, Briala has reason to distrust Celene but how exactly will she win the rebellion? The Inquisitor, I'm sure, will decided the fate of the Empire depending on who she/he supports. I highly doubt that Orlais will not have a monarch as the game finishes. The only possible outcome is that the Dales are returned to the elves which is a huge possibility. The real question is how? Will Celene be the faction that is willing to cede if persuaded and has the better outcome in the long run while Gaspard is the opposite (such as problems arising not long after like what happened with the dalish boon in the Hinterlands)? Regardless, the fact that Briala is compared to Fen'harel is...worrisome.

 

Now I can't wait until the game comes out. Why Weekes, why?! Why did you play with all my feels!? 

 

And one last indulgence:

 

Spoiler

I don't think it will be possible but does anyone else wish Celene and Briala to reconcile? Seriously, their love was tragic. 

[GuitarShredUK]

So much good stuff. Trying really hard to not see the intense spollers though, as I still don't have a copy yet.

Out of interest does anybody in the UK have a copy now? In physical form or digital, I don't mind which.

[Chewin]

So the book turned out great I pressume from the level of reception it has received from here. Good. Been awhile since I read any of the DA novels, and will be exciting to read Patrick Weekes take on the franchise.

[Cylan Cooper]

Amazon won't ship me my bloody copy. I guess that's what I get for ordering all 4 Dragon Age books at once.

[Ihatebadgames]

I finished the book and thought ok where's the second part!

[Fetunche]

I'm in the UK I bought my copy from the Forbidden Planet store in Birmingham on Sunday.

[wsowen02]

Ok this is so, so, SO nit picky that it is not even worth mentioning . . .

 

But I'm going to anyway.

 

Early in the book a character mentions the birds flying south for the winter.  Since Thedas is seemingly in the southern hemisphere (warmer in the Anderfels and a frozen tundra south of the Korcari Wilds) wouldn't the birds fly NORTH for the winter?

[Heimdall]

Spoiler

Regardless, the fact that Briala is compared to Fen'harel is...worrisome.

No kidding

Spoiler

Honestly, I'm having a little trouble working out how prolonging the war will work to the immediate benefit of the elves. Conceivably, the war might open up new avenues for elves as humans are killed and both sides need replacements in particular roles on and off the battlefield. On the other hand, a lot of people are going to die, elves too. I feel like Briala is slipping into something much more cold and calculating than before, especially with Celene out of her life. It... worries me. I liked her willingness to work within the system instead of upending it

Spoiler

I don't think it will be possible but does anyone else wish Celene and Briala to reconcile? Seriously, their love was tragic.

Definitely, though I have some hope since Briala still has feelings for her.

[Dabrikishaw]

So the Orlesian Chevaliers have an informal initiation ritual: Chevaliers who have completed their training are required to go out to the alienage and kill random elves to prove their superiority to the peasants.

 

Wow, I'm going to enjoy killing some Orlesians.

[Iakus]

No kidding

Spoiler

Honestly, I'm having a little trouble working out how prolonging the war will work to the immediate benefit of the elves. Conceivably, the war might open up new avenues for elves as humans are killed and both sides need replacements in particular roles on and off the battlefield. On the other hand, a lot of people are going to die, elves too. I feel like Briala is slipping into something much more cold and calculating than before, especially with Celene out of her life. It... worries me. I liked her willingness to work within the system instead of upending it

 

 

Spoiler

Probably figures a prolonged war will weaken Orlais overall, giving the elves a shot at retaking the Dales.  Or establishing a third homeland. 

 

Briala is, in fact, as calculating and dark as Celene and even Gaspard.  the main difference is priorities.  Celene's and Briala's simply do not line up, and never did.

[bairdduvessa]

just finished, will write a review shortly

[SurelyForth]

No kidding

Spoiler

Honestly, I'm having a little trouble working out how prolonging the war will work to the immediate benefit of the elves. Conceivably, the war might open up new avenues for elves as humans are killed and both sides need replacements in particular roles on and off the battlefield. On the other hand, a lot of people are going to die, elves too. I feel like Briala is slipping into something much more cold and calculating than before, especially with Celene out of her life. It... worries me. I liked her willingness to work within the system instead of upending it

 

 

Spoiler

Briala saw that working within the system was a dead end (at least in Celene's lifetime), because no matter the ground Celene gave the elves, she was never going to be able to grant them true equality and survive. Briala knows better than anyone that Celene's main priority is Celene's survival, so there was no chance of Celene sacrificing herself for elven equality and, without that level of support, nothing Briala could do would make an appreciable difference.

 

So now her goal is, I think, to strengthen the elven population while the state expends itself in a civil war. By the time its over, the elves will have an excellent position to assert themselves/rise against a new/unstable government backed by a vastly weakened army. Granted, this is a best case scenario, but the plan definitely hinges on the elves taking advantage of several things- the eluvians, the openings created by the war, and the post-war instability and recovery.

[Heimdall]

I'm picking up Asunder again. Its been awhile and I want to reread it knowing more fully the political situation of Orlais presented in The Masked Empire.

[Darth Krytie]

I'm picking up Asunder again. Its been awhile and I want to reread it knowing more fully the political situation of Orlais presented in The Masked Empire.

 

I reread Asunder two days before I read The Masked Empire. It's really interesting to read them side-by-side because they're taking place during the same time line for a lot of it. And it's really interesting to see all the different parallels of what both sides are seeing.

[Bekkael]

Really great book, love Patrick Weekes' writing!    After finishing it though, I can honestly say that the only character I actually liked was Felassan.

 

I really hope we have an option to screw over the Orlesians in DAI, because I find their nobility a bunch of elitist douchebags, and their culture ridiculous and rife with cruelty. I definitely identify more with the Ferelden "dog-lords". 

Spoiler

The Teagan scene was awesome.