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#676
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I thought it was pretty obvious he was supposed to be referring to the crisis in DAI. Although I didn't think the book's description meant his tatoos literally danced to convey a message.

 

I know, I made that reference so you could easily locate the scene I was referring to.



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I have a question about the eluvians.  :)

 

At the end Celene walks though one and ends up in her winter palace. Did she have an eluvian there she didn't know about somehow, or do they just create a portal that dissapears after you walk through them?



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Eluvians can apparently only travel from point to point, so she did have one in her winter palace.



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Eluvians can apparently only travel from point to point, so she did have one in her winter palace.

 

Isn't it weird that she didn't know she had one? Or that she wasn't surprised by it?



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Presumably she had thought it was just some elaborate elf mirror that was an inherited trinket in Halamshiral.



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Sure, I'll buy that  :D



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Isn't it weird that she didn't know she had one? Or that she wasn't surprised by it?


Most people have never even heard of an Eluvian, much less knows what one is. As far as anyone was concerned previously, it was just an ornate mirror.

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With regards to Imshael being the Big Bad - I doubt it.

 

We've already dealt with 2 of the Forbidden Ones - Gaxkang the Unbound in DA:O, and Xebenkeck in DA2. That only leaves Imshael and The Formless One. We know Imshael has been released and that Michel is hunting for him. I imagine we'll end up dealing with Imshael and Michel through a side quest, much like we dealt with Gaxkang and Xenbenkeck.

 

That just leaves The Formless One, whoever that it... WHATever that is...


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#684
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It looked like Briala could actually create portals that go wherever she wants, or at least that's what it seemed like she did at the very end.  But the password to directly access the eluvian system is probably required to do that.

 

The eluvian Celene exited was in a dining room that was decorated with elven relics.  She probably paid it as little attention as any other antiques in the Winter Palace.

 

Speaking of eluvians in Halamshiral...  Did anyone else find it strange that Imshael mentions that the eluvians have been deactivated since Halamshiral fell?  I thought the last time they were working was during the Arlathan era.  Unless that implies the elves of the old Dales had the eluvians working again for a brief time.



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Speaking of eluvians in Halamshiral...  Did anyone else find it strange that Imshael mentions that the eluvians have been deactivated since Halamshiral fell?  I thought the last time they were working was during the Arlathan era.  Unless that implies the elves of the old Dales had the eluvians working again for a brief time.

 

He might not have been talking about the same fall of Halamshiral. The elves had more than a single city when they ruled Thedas.



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He might not have been talking about the same fall of Halamshiral. The elves had more than a single city when they ruled Thedas.

 

Halamshiral wasn't established until the Dales was granted to the elves.  The wording is odd unless we learn there was a city there also called Halamshiral in ancient times...which would be weird since the elven meaning of "Halamshiral" is "end of the journey" and refers to The Long Walk.  Apparently the elves built Halamshiral in that location because it was right off the Imperial Highway where it enters into the Dales.

 

It might just be a mistake or something, but it still caught my attention.


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Halamshiral wasn't established until the Dales was granted to the elves.  The wording is odd unless we learn there was a city there also called Halamshiral in ancient times...which would be weird since the elven meaning of "Halamshiral" is "end of the journey" and refers to The Long Walk.  Apparently the elves built Halamshiral in that location because it was right off the Imperial Highway where it enters into the Dales.

 

It might just be a mistake or something, but it still caught my attention.

 

I always had the impression that there was a city that stood where Halamshiral is now. Not sure why though. But then, I always wondered why it was the capital of the Dales, when it always looked so far outside of said Dales on the maps too...



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With regards to Imshael being the Big Bad - I doubt it.

 

We've already dealt with 2 of the Forbidden Ones - Gaxkang the Unbound in DA:O, and Xebenkeck in DA2. That only leaves Imshael and The Formless One. We know Imshael has been released and that Michel is hunting for him. I imagine we'll end up dealing with Imshael and Michel through a side quest, much like we dealt with Gaxkang and Xenbenkeck.

 

That just leaves The Formless One, whoever that it... WHATever that is...

 

Considering that Flemeth's classification is an unknown while she's a noted body jumper, i think it's possible that she's the formless one.


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I have just finished it and it does bode well for the game. It teases an interesting scene for DAI.

 

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I have just finished it and it does bode well for the game. It teases an interesting scene for DAI.

 

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If Michel disobeys Briala, she will disclose his secret, and that will be the end of his service to Celene.  But of course obeying Briala is also going to force his secret to come out.  He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.  So he defaults to honoring his promise to Briala since his service to Celene is ended either way.  This is also why he comes out with his secret himself, he knows it's over.  At least that's how I saw it.  Chevalier "honor" was kinda wonky to me, so I think your mileage may vary.


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I have just finished it and it does bode well for the game. It teases an interesting scene for DAI.

 

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I'm inclined to agree. I found Gaspard's sense of honor far more convincing, due largely to his consistency. He did some pretty silly things (as dear Remache often noted), but it was all within a framework that made some kind of sense. Regarding Michel:

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Dragondreamer and OdanDurr both raise fair points, regardless. 



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If Michel disobeys Briala, she will disclose his secret, and that will be the end of his service to Celene.  But of course obeying Briala is also going to force his secret to come out.  He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.  So he defaults to honoring his promise to Briala since his service to Celene is ended either way.  This is also why he comes out with his secret himself, he knows it's over.  At least that's how I saw it.  Chevalier "honor" was kinda wonky to me, so I think your mileage may vary.

hmm I think it also because he didn't kill Gaspard over all..Celene wouldn't have not care if his mom was an elf.. she wanted  her threat to be killed. but he didnt do it.. I can only see Celene using the elf mom as a way to play the game to twist Michel, if he would have stay by her side



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Are we supposed to be using spoiler code to hide posts in this thread? It seems a bit over the top since no one should be in this thread not expecting them.

 

Yeah, Celene personally wouldn't be concerned Michel had an elven mother, I mean she had taken an elf as a lover herself. She could possibly have been concerned that someone could use the information against her, but again, the elven lover issue would seem much more scandalous and because he looks very human it would be extremely hard to prove. She might have been perturbed that Michel had deceived her, but I doubt it. Of course it would be Michels perception of this because it was his decision.

 

I considered the fact that he simply didn't want to kill Gaspard and so he used his honor as an excuse. But I would have misread his entire character in that case. He was imo very honorable and he made the decision simply because he was honoring his promise to Briala even though he didn't want to. But as I said above, that doesn't make sense to me because he is simultaneously breaking another, imo more important, promise.



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I too found this a little unconvincing. After all they'd been through, I don't think Celene would've actually cared at all that he wasn't really a nobleman. I mean, she sacrificed herself for him in battle... You're beyond caring about someone's origin at that point, you value the person.

So, yes, Michel was at a crossroad, but choosing to honor Briala's promise instead of his oath to Celene seemed a little out of place - or  forced, even. Or maybe it's not; he chose, and he can be mistaken in his decision. Could go either way: as a flaw in character development or as a flawed character.



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Considering that Flemeth's classification is an unknown while she's a noted body jumper, i think it's possible that she's the formless one.

 

Don't forget noted shape shifter, too. It makes sense that an entity known as the Formless One could easily adopt new forms at will in order to conceal its true nature. Then again, body jumping and shape shifting are typical of Trickster Gods, too...



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Don't forget noted shape shifter, too. It makes sense that an entity known as the Formless One could easily adopt new forms at will in order to conceal its true nature. Then again, body jumping and shape shifting are typical of Trickster Gods, too...

 

She also has the ability to take a small piece of herself put it in an amulet and reappear somewhere else. She can be in two places at once. She just needs an elf to perform the ritual.



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Is it spoiler tags all round? Or just for certain things, like the ending?

 

I had some thoughts about Felassan.

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I can't wait to see what effects this book has on DAI. It's even more exciting than Asunder. Celene and Gaspard both seem so interesting and complicated. I lean more towards Celene, but it probably helps that we're inside her head half the time. She seems to care for her people in a general sense (as in the empire as a whole, like with her wanting to improve the universities).

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I'm definitely looking forward to playing a Dalish Inquisitor, anyway.


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So if Felassan was killed in the fade, does that mean he's now a tranquil? Or do you think the big bad being the killer means hes dead dead? 



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So if Felassan was killed in the fade, does that mean he's now a tranquil? Or do you think the big bad being the killer means hes dead dead? 

 

He was killed in the real world, we couldn't see or hear the person who killed him. There was no great scene change during his sequence at the end, and he scoffs at putting up defensive runes knowing that they would do nothing to protect himself from the person who was using him.

 

It seems his killer might be the same as Ishmael that we saw and Felassan might have been the sole survivor like the elf girl.