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[Mistic]

That very same scene in the book features Briala telling Mihris to tell the other clans she's willing to work with them but only if they are willing to help her pan elven goals.

 

True, and that is the problem. A City Elf is in control of the Eluvians and she is demanding that the Dalish enter a conflict they don't have anything to do with in exchange of allowing the use of an ancient elven artifact. An artifact that was going to be for the Dalish alone until that same City Elf and her shemlen companions caused the complete destruction of a clan.

 

The question would be: why should we help a City Elf who betrayed our people? Why should we follow her orders to be able to use an artifact that should be ours to begin with?

[leaguer of one]

True, and that is the problem. A City Elf is in control of the Eluvians and she is demanding that the Dalish enter a conflict they don't have anything to do with in exchange of allowing the use of an ancient elven artifact. An artifact that was going to be for the Dalish alone until that same City Elf and her shemlen companions caused the complete destruction of a clan.

 

The question would be: why should we help a City Elf who betrayed our people? Why should we follow her orders to be able to use an artifact that should be ours to begin with?

1. The city elves did not betray the dalish or their people. They are the decendence who live in the dales as much as the dalish and fought for the dales. And they lost. Choosing not to be nomads is a betrail?

 

2. If the dalish want to reclaim their past then it's best they do. It's made clear the dalish are obsessed wit the Eluvians.  Helping the city elves with their rebellion helps them reclaim their past.

[LobselVith8]

True, and that is the problem. A City Elf is in control of the Eluvians and she is demanding that the Dalish enter a conflict they don't have anything to do with in exchange of allowing the use of an ancient elven artifact. An artifact that was going to be for the Dalish alone until that same City Elf and her shemlen companions caused the complete destruction of a clan.

The question would be: why should we help a City Elf who betrayed our people? Why should we follow her orders to be able to use an artifact that should be ours to begin with?

It might be more about helping the elves who live under human rule after the tragedy of Halamshiral, rather than Briala. Many were killed in the latest purge, and I can see some clans having an interest in answering the call to help their disadvantaged brethren, even if it means working with Briala.

Maybe some want to take it a step further and take back their homeland while the Orlesians are distracted; I can see the Dalish supporting an autonomous homeland that is independent of human control.

[Mistic]

1. The city elves did not betray the dalish or their people. They are the decendence who live in the dales as much as the dalish and fought for the dales. And they lost. Choosing not to be nomads is a betrail?

 

No, no, I wasn't talking about the City Elves in general, but one City Elf in particular: Briala. The clan in TME let her stay, even if reluctantly. In fact, even Felassan says that the only reason her companions were still alive at that point was because Thelhen had to admit that she helped them with her information. She wasn't a prisoner. Yet, despite knowing that Michel and Celene were planning to make a deal with Imshael, she helped them to get free and afterwards stole the Eluvians to herself. That was the 'treason' I was talking about.

 

It might be more about helping the elves who live under human rule after the tragedy of Halamshiral, rather than Briala. Many were killed in the latest purge, and I can see some clans having an interest in answering the call to help their disadvantaged brethren, even if it means working with Briala.

 

I like that idea. It opens a lot of possibilities. Makes roleplaying much more interesting. The Dalish Inquisitor could be at the same time the Inquisitor with more reasons to kill Briala, but also the one with more reasons to help the City Elves ("I'm not helping you. I'm helping my fellow elves").

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well, Aneirin enjoyed a great deal of freedom to live by his own, but he also had the Dalish tattoos and followed the elven gods, so yeah, what you say still applies.

 

The problem with Dalish relationships with their city brethren, even in the most positive cases, is that they expect that they would want to be like them. The idea that maybe the City Elves would be happy with being Andrastian and having more human customs, yet still consider themselves true Elvhen, seems unthinkable to the Dalish.

Yeah, the Dalish see themselves as the 'true elves' and think all City Elves need to be reeducated and converted to the old ways because they are 'lost'. This attitude is why I'm hesitant about the elven nation if the Dalish are in charge. Just feels like the City Elves would be trading one master for another. 

[LobselVith8]

Yeah, the Dalish see themselves as the 'true elves' and think all City Elves need to be reeducated and converted to the old ways because they are 'lost'. This attitude is why I'm hesitant about the elven nation if the Dalish are in charge. Just feels like the City Elves would be trading one master for another.

Some Dalish are like that, just like some Andrastian elves who view the Dalish as "savages", and they denigrate the elves who try to live outside the Alienage as flat ears, too. According to hahren Sarethia of the Highever Alienage:

"Here, we're among family. We look out for each other. Here, we do what we can to remember the old ways. The flat-ears who have gone out there, they're stuck. They'll never be human, and they've gone and thrown away being elven, too. So where does that leave them? Nowhere."

No group in Thedas is perfect.

[leaguer of one]

No, no, I wasn't talking about the City Elves in general, but one City Elf in particular: Briala. The clan in TME let her stay, even if reluctantly. In fact, even Felassan says that the only reason her companions were still alive at that point was because Thelhen had to admit that she helped them with her information. She wasn't a prisoner. Yet, despite knowing that Michel and Celene were planning to make a deal with Imshael, she helped them to get free and afterwards stole the Eluvians to herself. That was the 'treason' I was talking about.

 

 

 

Let her stay? The barely wanted her there and they plan to hand them all over to Gaspard. They were not even planning to help her. That's not a betrayal.

[TK514]

Maybe some want to take it a step further and take back their homeland while the Orlesians are distracted; I can see the Dalish supporting an autonomous homeland that is independent of human control.

 

I can see some Dalish supporting an attempt to conquer the Dales.  And that's among my concerns about the viability of it.  As you have pointed out, the Dalish are not a homogenous group.  Each clan is different, and some are radically so.  While some might be all for it, some are going to be ambivalent, and some are going to strenuously disagree.  There's also the matter of the Clans being scattered all over Thedas most of the time.  Unless the Dalish have a huge and heretofore unmentioned population, "some" hardly seems enough to take and hold an area the size of the Dales, even in the midst of a Civil War amongst their most likely enemies, and especially when said war is being fought in the area to be claimed.  And I have my doubts that such a population exists.  If it did, either they'd have made a push on the Dales already, or the human nations would have taken note, felt threatened, and done something about it when the Dalish got together for their all-clan meetings.

 

Throw City Elves into the mix, and you're going to have a further breakdown of Dalish solidarity.  Some of the clans who agree to make an opportunistic play while the might of Orlais is mixing it up in the Dales will be fine with working alongside City Elves and others will be vehemently opposed.  And among those who are ok, or even just uncaring, you'll have a breakdown of those who see the City Elves as poor lost sheep who need to be reeducated in order to be proper elves, and those who don't.

 

And a great number of those problems exist on the City Elf side.  First there's a problem with the size of the population willing and physically able to support a conflict.  Then you have a problem with factions.  Some will see the Dalish as savages, others won't.  Some will be willing to work with them, others won't.  Some will embrace an attempt to 'reeducate' them, and others will be violently opposed to such efforts.

 

So, while the elves may have a common ancestry, what you've actually got are a lot of subgroups, some of whom have mutually exclusive goals and attitudes towards one another.  Having enough of them holding it together to take a portion of the Dales while Orlais is distracted seems within the realm of possibility, but continuing to do so long enough to weather the inevitable human response seems less so.

 

Of course, the writers are going to write what they want, so the outcome will be whatever they say it is, regardless of what we may consider plausible.

[Altima Darkspells]

Let us all remember that the majority of the Dalish do not even consider City Elves to be elves at all. The clan we see in the dalish origin and in DA2 seems to be more of an exception than the rule.

When you come right down to it, it's possible that quite a few clans even exist on the opposite extreme--killing both humans AND city elves that find them, if only to preserve what they see as reclaiming their immortality, what with the Dalish having marginally longer lifespans than humans/city elves.

Personally, I don't think it will matter in the long-run that Briala controls the Eluvians or if Gaspard or Celene had gotten it. I got the distinct impression that all parties involved got conned by a long-game playing individual, either Imshael or the mysterious figure at the end.

[Mistic]

Let her stay? The barely wanted her there and they plan to hand them all over to Gaspard. They were not even planning to help her. That's not a betrayal.

 

I agree that they were cold and unhelpful, and that they only admitted her because Felassan vouched for her. However, the part about handing them over to Gaspard was only for the humans. Ok, to be even more specific, those threats were only directed at Celene and Celene alone, but given what happened with Michel when he "escaped" for a while, I suppose that he would be included.

 

In fact, it's a plot point in chapter 12 of TME. Celene has to convince Briala that the Dalish are not her people and even Briala herself uses the word "betray" when discussing the matter. Also, remember that I'm talking about the Dalish opinion on the matter, not a neutral judgement. They could excuse their own rudeness easily, while not forgiving mistreatment from others.

 

I can see some Dalish supporting an attempt to conquer the Dales.  And that's among my concerns about the viability of it.  As you have pointed out, the Dalish are not a homogenous group.  Each clan is different, and some are radically so.  While some might be all for it, some are going to be ambivalent, and some are going to strenuously disagree.  There's also the matter of the Clans being scattered all over Thedas most of the time.  Unless the Dalish have a huge and heretofore unmentioned population, "some" hardly seems enough to take and hold an area the size of the Dales, even in the midst of a Civil War amongst their most likely enemies, and especially when said war is being fought in the area to be claimed.  And I have my doubts that such a population exists.  If it did, either they'd have made a push on the Dales already, or the human nations would have taken note, felt threatened, and done something about it when the Dalish got together for their all-clan meetings.

 

Yes, population wise is very difficult for the Dalish. The only plausible explanation would be if there was an Arlathvhen in DA:I. You know, the large gathering of Dalish clans. The thing is, Fenris mentioned in Mark of the Assassin that there would be an Arlathvhen in Halamshiral. It could be just a coincidence, or it could be foreshadowing.

[LobselVith8]

I can see some Dalish supporting an attempt to conquer the Dales. And that's among my concerns about the viability of it. As you have pointed out, the Dalish are not a homogenous group. Each clan is different, and some are radically so. While some might be all for it, some are going to be ambivalent, and some are going to strenuously disagree. There's also the matter of the Clans being scattered all over Thedas most of the time. Unless the Dalish have a huge and heretofore unmentioned population, "some" hardly seems enough to take and hold an area the size of the Dales, even in the midst of a Civil War amongst their most likely enemies, and especially when said war is being fought in the area to be claimed. And I have my doubts that such a population exists. If it did, either they'd have made a push on the Dales already, or the human nations would have taken note, felt threatened, and done something about it when the Dalish got together for their all-clan meetings.

We hear about an Arlathvhen that is supposed to occur near Halamshiral, so I think a large congregation of clans could be in the Dales by the time of Inquisition. And I don't dispute your point about the variety of the clans, but perhaps the potential involvement of the Inquisitor might sway things in a certain direction? Especially if the protagonist is elven, and has amassed military might at this point.

Throw City Elves into the mix, and you're going to have a further breakdown of Dalish solidarity. Some of the clans who agree to make an opportunistic play while the might of Orlais is mixing it up in the Dales will be fine with working alongside City Elves and others will be vehemently opposed. And among those who are ok, or even just uncaring, you'll have a breakdown of those who see the City Elves as poor lost sheep who need to be reeducated in order to be proper elves, and those who don't.

And a great number of those problems exist on the City Elf side. First there's a problem with the size of the population willing and physically able to support a conflict. Then you have a problem with factions. Some will see the Dalish as savages, others won't. Some will be willing to work with them, others won't. Some will embrace an attempt to 'reeducate' them, and others will be violently opposed to such efforts.

You bring up some fair points. There are different types of people among the Dalish and Andrastian elves, and I think there would be friction on all sides. However, I see this as part of what can be an engaging story. Fractures among groups, differences of opinion, vying goals - it can showcase many perspectives, and allow the protagonist to use wit and specific dialogue options to exacerbate the problems, or unify them towards a common goal.

So, while the elves may have a common ancestry, what you've actually got are a lot of subgroups, some of whom have mutually exclusive goals and attitudes towards one another. Having enough of them holding it together to take a portion of the Dales while Orlais is distracted seems within the realm of possibility, but continuing to do so long enough to weather the inevitable human response seems less so.

Of course, the writers are going to write what they want, so the outcome will be whatever they say it is, regardless of what we may consider plausible.

True, it's in their hands. Although I would hope an elven story isn't sidelined when the Dales is a primary location in Inquisition.

[leaguer of one]

I agree that they were cold and unhelpful, and that they only admitted her because Felassan vouched for her. However, the part about handing them over to Gaspard was only for the humans. Ok, to be even more specific, those threats were only directed at Celene and Celene alone, but given what happened with Michel when he "escaped" for a while, I suppose that he would be included.

 

In fact, it's a plot point in chapter 12 of TME. Celene has to convince Briala that the Dalish are not her people and even Briala herself uses the word "betray" when discussing the matter. Also, remember that I'm talking about the Dalish opinion on the matter, not a neutral judgement. They could excuse their own rudeness easily, while not forgiving mistreatment from others.

 

 

I feel more the Bralia concept of betray was with her beliefs then the dalish. Remember she sees all elves as her people. And I don't think Gaspard would of settled with just Celene and her Champion. At that time for Bralia to leave Celene to her fate it would mean betraying her and she was not even close to that mind set yet. 

[TK514]

We hear about an Arlathvhen that is supposed to occur near Halamshiral, so I think a large congregation of clans could be in the Dales by the time of Inquisition. And I don't dispute your point about the variety of the clans, but perhaps the potential involvement of the Inquisitor might sway things in a certain direction? Especially if the protagonist is elven, and has amassed military might at this point.

You bring up some fair points. There are different types of people among the Dalish and Andrastian elves, and I think there would be friction on all sides. However, I see this as part of what can be an engaging story. Fractures among groups, differences of opinion, vying goals - it can showcase many perspectives, and allow the protagonist to use wit and specific dialogue options to exacerbate the problems, or unify them towards a common goal.


True, it's in their hands. Although I would hope an elven story isn't sidelined when the Dales is a primary location in Inquisition.

 

I agree, actually.  If nothing else, the Dragon Age series is about exceptional individuals stepping up to lead groups to do exceptional things.  Thus far those groups have been small bands of adventurers as opposed to large organizations like the Inquisition, but in both previous games they have had influence well beyond their origin or even their effective ability to enforce their opinion.  Even when they choose not to use that influence.

 

The Warden can convince six different factions to either directly join or not interfere with their efforts against the Blight.  They also determine the monarchy of two sovereign nations and influence an entire strata of nobility while doing so.  And that doesn't even take into account they power they could theoretically wield should they become nobility (Awakening, etc).

 

Hawke, on the other hand, has similar power and chooses not to use it until forced.  We hear at least once that by the time Act 3 comes around, people in the city, including the nobility, see Hawke as one of the most powerful individuals in Kirkwall, capable of ending Meredith's unlawful rule and even taking the Viscount's seat themselves.  It is somewhat unfortunate that we didn't get to utilize that power until Anders and Meredith force the issue, but it was there.

 

So, yes, I can see an Inquisitor being capable of doing something similar with Dalish clans and City Elves.  Whether we we have that opportunity or not is somewhat less clear.  It will depend on how big a part of the game the Orlesian Civil War is, and if the Dalish/Elves are considered a viable third faction.  Just as an off the cuff example, if the Orlesian portion is the main body of the game, then I can see a Elven section being comparable to the Templar/Mage or Elf/Werewolf sections of DA:O, with the two factions of Elves being equated to the sides of those debates.  That would make Templars/Mages another of the triumverate, and Celine/Gaspard the third.  There are some nuances in there that the example doesn't address, of course, but I think it is functional enough.

 

It will be interesting to see how things fall out come October.

 

True, it's in their hands. Although I would hope an elven story isn't sidelined when the Dales is a primary location in Inquisition.

 

I agree here as well.  I would wonder what the point was of going in and adding additional playable races if they did not add additional perspective.  If no Inquisitor ever addresses a background detail, belief, or unique perspective, then all they've done is added various skins and called it what we asked for, which is a level of dishonesty that I don't assign to this development team.

[Kidd]

I just finished this and I'm crying my eyes out. Patrick Weekes is just as bad as Gaider. ;____; Somebody, please hold me cause I am breaking down ;_; I love the feels, I do, but they're still feels~~ XD

Holy cow those last few chapters just flew by. I'm a slow reader so I read in short bursts. But those last 100 or so pages just flew by and now it's almost 7AM with no sleep. Oops.

I can't decide whether Briala's choice was amazing or absolutely terrible. I guess it's both. She's not willing to compromise and I greatly respect that since I love championing elven freedom (my first warden was a city elf for crying out loud), and she's right in that Celene may have been ready to compromise quite a bit... but I truly believed in Celene as well and Briala turned on her own lover and...

I can't decide whether I want to sing her praises or give her a Theirin™. But I do know her breaking everything Celene had worked for hurts really, really bad.

Sorry to burst into this great lore discussion with I-just-finished-the-book feels but I needed to type vent this somewhere. ****!

Also, was that Morrigan who talked to and killed Felassan at the end? I wonder. It seems to make sense if it was Morrigan.

[Saberchic]

I just finished this and I'm crying my eyes out. Patrick Weekes is just as bad as Gaider. ;____; Somebody, please hold me cause I am breaking down ;_; I love the feels, I do, but they're still feels~~ XD

Holy cow those last few chapters just flew by. I'm a slow reader so I read in short bursts. But those last 100 or so pages just flew by and now it's almost 7AM with no sleep. Oops.

I can't decide whether Briala's choice was amazing or absolutely terrible. I guess it's both. She's not willing to compromise and I greatly respect that since I love championing elven freedom (my first warden was a city elf for crying out loud), and she's right in that Celene may have been ready to compromise quite a bit... but I truly believed in Celene as well and Briala turned on her own lover and...

I can't decide whether I want to sing her praises or give her a Theirin™. But I do know her breaking everything Celene had worked for hurts really, really bad.

Sorry to burst into this great lore discussion with I-just-finished-the-book feels but I needed to type vent this somewhere. ****!

Also, was that Morrigan who talked to and killed Felassan at the end? I wonder. It seems to make sense if it was Morrigan.

I just finished it too.

To be honest, I'm not sure where I stand on Briala, but before you get mad at her for "turning on her lover," I would remind you that Celene wronged her first by murdering her parents. And Briala does have a point; Celene would sacrifice her people if it meant stabilizing the Empire. On the other hand, I feel that at least Celene would try to better the situation of the elves whereas Gaspard would stick with the status quo. All I really know is that I can't wait to see Orlais in DAI. I hope we get to meet both Celene and Gaspard.

 

You know, my first thought was that was Morrigan at the end who killed Falassan. But it could also be Flemeth. From Witch Hunt, I see that Morrigan can travel through an eluvian, but I don't know how much she can really use them. And I have no idea if Flemeth can or even desires to use them. At this point, I'm leaning more toward Morrigan.

[Saberchic]

double post. internet was being stupid.

[Kidd]

I just finished it too.
To be honest, I'm not sure where I stand on Briala, but before you get mad at her for "turning on her lover," I would remind you that Celene wronged her first by murdering her parents. And Briala does have a point; Celene would sacrifice her people if it meant stabilizing the Empire. On the other hand, I feel that at least Celene would try to better the situation of the elves whereas Gaspard would stick with the status quo. All I really know is that I can't wait to see Orlais in DAI. I hope we get to meet both Celene and Gaspard.

I know, Celene is certainly not an angel. But wow, Briala pulled Celene so close for that final moment, knowing what she was going to do. Then she drew weapons against her own lover. And when she asked Celene for an exact plan on how she was going to free the elves, was that just a rhetorical question or was she truly open to a quick reply on Celene's part?

Also, didn't she imply that she had partially been in love with Celene because of the magic her ring bestowed upon her? Like, wow. Major cold. I know she didn't know what that ring did or anything, but just saying it...

I just feel so betrayed~ XD

I wonder when, exactly, she decided to betray Celene. She seemed to still believe in her when they were walking through the eluvians. I guess it was when she was thinking about when Celene could have gotten her ring?

And yeah, I'm sure Briala knows Celene is much better for the elves than Gaspard. But her plan isn't to side with Gaspard, she'll just screw both sides over for her own benefit. I wonder though, if Celene really went forward with freeing the elves (perhaps we can reaffirm her to go for it in DAI?), would we be able to get them back together? Kiss, make nice, forget anything ever happened? X)

There were so many hints that Celene and Bria weren't gonna end up together at the end of the book. But then things kinda just calmed down and they started talking again, etc. I was sure things were going to turn out fine between them at that point. Then I remembered that Bria still hadn't used Michel's favour yet and I just realised that there is no way that wouldn't come up. And then things happened.

Wow I still feel like crap XD

 

You know, my first thought was that was Morrigan at the end who killed Falassan. But it could also be Flemeth. From Witch Hunt, I see that Morrigan can travel through an eluvian, but I don't know how much she can really use them. And I have no idea if Flemeth can or even desires to use them. At this point, I'm leaning more toward Morrigan.

Morrigan didn't seem to control her eluvian very well. It makes sense that she'd want full access. Seems a bit harsh for Morrigan to kill Felassan, though.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

And now that I think about it, it means that Merrill's efforts were doomed form the start. As we discovered in TME, each eluvian is linked to another eluvian. So either Merrill's mirror would be connected to the Darkspawn mirror, or it would be connected to a minor chamber which wasn't purified yet.

..... Oh, so that's why its a bad idea to have Merrill keep the mirror. There's now a darkspawn invasion gateway waiting to happen in Merrill's room in Kirkwall's alienage. Great.

[bairdduvessa]

..... Oh, so that's why its a bad idea to have Merrill keep the mirror. There's now a darkspawn invasion gateway waiting to happen in Merrill's room in Kirkwall's alienage. Great.

i think morrigan must have killed them all

[leaguer of one]

i think morrigan must have killed them all

Her mirror was never tainted.

[leaguer of one]

..... Oh, so that's why its a bad idea to have Merrill keep the mirror. There's now a darkspawn invasion gateway waiting to happen in Merrill's room in Kirkwall's alienage. Great.

"I lover her too much to let her keep it."

-Allesso Hawke

[Saberchic]

I know, Celene is certainly not an angel. But wow, Briala pulled Celene so close for that final moment, knowing what she was going to do. Then she drew weapons against her own lover. And when she asked Celene for an exact plan on how she was going to free the elves, was that just a rhetorical question or was she truly open to a quick reply on Celene's part?

Also, didn't she imply that she had partially been in love with Celene because of the magic her ring bestowed upon her? Like, wow. Major cold. I know she didn't know what that ring did or anything, but just saying it...

I just feel so betrayed~ XD

I wonder when, exactly, she decided to betray Celene. She seemed to still believe in her when they were walking through the eluvians. I guess it was when she was thinking about when Celene could have gotten her ring?

And yeah, I'm sure Briala knows Celene is much better for the elves than Gaspard. But her plan isn't to side with Gaspard, she'll just screw both sides over for her own benefit. I wonder though, if Celene really went forward with freeing the elves (perhaps we can reaffirm her to go for it in DAI?), would we be able to get them back together? Kiss, make nice, forget anything ever happened? X)

There were so many hints that Celene and Bria weren't gonna end up together at the end of the book. But then things kinda just calmed down and they started talking again, etc. I was sure things were going to turn out fine between them at that point. Then I remembered that Bria still hadn't used Michel's favour yet and I just realised that there is no way that wouldn't come up. And then things happened.

Wow I still feel like crap XD

I believe Celene drew her weapons on Briala first, and I think she asked Celene about the plight of the elves so that Celene would be honest with herself. I think Briala knew at the end that the elves were never going to see the freedom Briala hoped they would get. Celene did not even have a plan; she had words she told her lover, and yes, I know she probably meant them when she said them, but I think Briala knew she really couldn't deliver.

 

As for the ring, it showed the wearer openings. I don't recall anywhere where it stated or implied that it was used to make someone fall in love with someone else. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I have to say, I hope Briala and Celene do NOT get back together. Celene had her parents murdered. No kissing and making up for that. Period.

I'm not sure if Celene would give the elves more freedom. She needs her nobles to support her, and she might get too must resistance if she pushes elven rights. However, getting the elves on her side would be a huge advantage for her... so who knows?

 

On a side note, I wonder if we'll see Michel. I really liked him.

[bairdduvessa]

Her mirror was never tainted.

sorry, half asleep.  you are right

[leaguer of one]

I believe Celene drew her weapons on Briala first, and I think she asked Celene about the plight of the elves so that Celene would be honest with herself. I think Briala knew at the end that the elves were never going to see the freedom Briala hoped they would get. Celene did not even have a plan; she had words she told her lover, and yes, I know she probably meant them when she said them, but I think Briala knew she really couldn't deliver.

 

As for the ring, it showed the wearer openings. I don't recall anywhere where it stated or implied that it was used to make someone fall in love with someone else. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I have to say, I hope Briala and Celene do NOT get back together. Celene had her parents murdered. No kissing and making up for that. Period.

I'm not sure if Celene would give the elves more freedom. She needs her nobles to support her, and she might get too must resistance if she pushes elven rights. However, getting the elves on her side would be a huge advantage for her... so who knows?

 

On a side note, I wonder if we'll see Michel. I really liked him.

Ya... That ring was not a make a person love you ring. The reveil was a miss direct. Her way of thinking made the reader think  that Bralia thought because Celene did not react to save her with the monster fight that she did not care for her. That she felt that because Celene the same ring as Gaspard that she should be fast enough to knock her away. But the fact she put 2 and 2 together on how Celene and Gaspard got the ring turned everything on it's head. Bralia when she thinking goes a million miles a second, She's a spy master for a reason.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Some Dalish are like that, just like some Andrastian elves who view the Dalish as "savages", and they denigrate the elves who try to live outside the Alienage as flat ears, too. According to hahren Sarethia of the Highever Alienage:

"Here, we're among family. We look out for each other. Here, we do what we can to remember the old ways. The flat-ears who have gone out there, they're stuck. They'll never be human, and they've gone and thrown away being elven, too. So where does that leave them? Nowhere."

No group in Thedas is perfect.

I'd say a lot more than some Dalish view themselves as the 'true elves' though. Their whole culture is reclaiming what the elves once were and becoming like their ancestors. And they have shown a common line of thinking that those elves not part of the Dalish need to be educated. We have yet to meet a single clan that contradicts that. 

 

While I don't deny the City Elves will have radicals among them that will cause problems(one of them is the wielder of a superweapon right now in the form of the Eluvian Network), my concerns for who will push themselves on the others is more towards the Dalish since they've shown a mindset of it while no City Elves have shown themselves as wanting to un-Dalish the Dalish.