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Cerberus:Hardest Faction on Gold?


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#51
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XFG-65 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

None. Gold is brain dead easy. So is Platinum when I am hosting.


According to bsn:

- Gold is hard.
- Gold is fun.
- Platinum is easy.
- Platinum is boring.

Context is important.

#52
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Someone mentioned that Cerberus could be the hardest faction in my experience due to my teammates, and since I play mostly in PUGS I can say they love to make me solo waves4-7. Anyone realise PUGS suffer a lot vs Cerberus compare to the other factions ?

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I can see how a crash and burn in a Cerby gold match might make it seem that way. Turret farms, lolgoons, and phantoms could really wreak some havoc on a poor team. If you've got three duds and one fair player... yeah that could give some stilted impressions. Personally its geth stunlock that gets me everytime. But If I suddenly find I have to clutch in a cerberus game I do get my focus face on in a way I don't with the other three so you may be onto something there.

Modifié par millahnna, 25 janvier 2014 - 12:45 .


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OP, I can't see yours loleasy PPR fast caerbear solo yet. Or even dat EZ mode is too much of a challenge for you?

You have offended my kit, you have offended my solo, you have offended my favorite gun. Now be a man and prove your words. Or STFU and stop whining about bad pugs and hard cerbers.

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FasterThanFTL wrote...

None. Gold is brain dead easy. So is Platinum when I am hosting.

Not everyone use coalesced.win

#56
FasterThanFTL

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

None. Gold is brain dead easy. So is Platinum when I am hosting.

Not everyone use coalesced.win


Neither do I, I am talking about no lag for me when I host, hence I can steamroll everything very easily without needing to worry about the BS associated with playing off-host. The concept of shield/health gate actually working makes a huge difference on Platinum, not so much on Gold.

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FasterThanFTL wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

None. Gold is brain dead easy. So is Platinum when I am hosting.

Not everyone use coalesced.win


Neither do I, I am talking about no lag for me when I host, hence I can steamroll everything very easily without needing to worry about the BS associated with playing off-host. The concept of shield/health gate actually working makes a huge difference on Platinum, not so much on Gold.

*cough* Pistol Heavy Barrel on everything *cough*

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Cerberus is a close second to Geth, especially if hosting. Phantoms, and Dragoons mixed together absolutely suck balls.

Collectors are third, and Reapers the easiest.

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lol

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I remember a time when Cerberus used to be a joke and Reapers was the hardest faction to fight against.

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dumdum2 wrote...

I remember a time when Cerberus used to be a joke and Reapers was the hardest faction to fight against.


Seems like such a long time ago doesn't it? We are true OG's! :D

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HoochieHamiltoe wrote...

dumdum2 wrote...

I remember a time when Cerberus used to be a joke and Reapers was the hardest faction to fight against.


Seems like such a long time ago doesn't it? We are true OG's! :D


Yeah, my first lvl 1 Gold solo was against Cerberus back in the days with the Asari Vanguard. Put stasis on everything and shoot them in the head, even for a lvl 1 that was ridiculously easy back then.

Still feels weird that Reapers are so easy these days, and that's just because everything else became harder while Reapers basically stayed the same.

Kinda makes me think about how hard this multiplayer is for new players today, considering how "easy" the game was when we started playing it and we still got our asses kicked on Bronze at first.

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XFG-65 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

None. Gold is brain dead easy. So is Platinum when I am hosting.


According to bsn:

- Gold is hard.
- Gold is fun.
- Platinum is easy.
- Platinum is boring.


According to XFG:

-The Venom is amazing.
-The Venom is trash.
-XFG is the best player in the world.
-XFG is bad and needs a good team to handle platinum.
-XFG is actually a nice guy.
-XFG is a complete tool.
-Everyone on BSN is a sheep.
-XFG is on BSN but is totally not a sheep.

OT: I've played with you, OP. You seemed like an alright player but some of your comments in this thread are ridiculous.

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Collectors.

Whom I hate with a passion borne of a thousand totally-unfair deaths.

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It depends, if the team can handle phantoms easily then cerberus become a cakewalk.
Otherwise it can be pretty hard, but imho not harder than collectors (with the same team).

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There are WAY more than 2 kits that can trivialize Phantoms. Any kits with Stasis for sure. Any kit with Lash (assuming you spec it). Most grenade kits, provided you don't have the Phantom highlighted on screen when you throw it. Tac Scan is pretty effective also, as it prevents them from hiding and gets the team to focus fire. Geth Scanner can also make them much, much easier, but I guess that's true for any faction. Slayer can make quick work of 'em. Talon Merc bow build with auto-targeting and a charge weapon fired simultaneously (I prefer Graal for this purpose).

Dragoons? Well, I don't even know what to tell you there. I don't find them hard, per se, just annoying. If you try to stay glued in one spot, then yeah, you're going to have a problem. Keep moving and have a weapon or power that makes quick work of armor. Plenty of options to choose from.

They also have the slowest moving and easiest to avoid boss in Atlases. If it weren't for turrets, I might rank 'em the easiest. As is, they take second to Reapers for me. Geth third overall. Collectors still give me some trouble, quite honestly.

Modifié par billpickles, 25 janvier 2014 - 08:29 .


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Geth then Cerberus

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Head knowledge destroys cerberus.

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RTK2Lional wrote...

Headshots destroys cerberus.

FTFY

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Cerberus is definitely hard after collectors for me. Most hard of I don't have teammate with anti-phantom kits. They are easy with many setups ( scorpion, dark channel-Reave etc) but the problem with them is they are too many of them. Cerberus wave 10 , specially device objective and extraction wave is nightmare because infinite spawn budget. So there are always 4 phantoms and bumrushing dragoons. I feel best way to deal with phantoms in objective and extraction wave is to Reave or dark channel them and leave. Killing them outright mean they could spawn close to someone and stab them. Happens often. That is why many fail to extract.

I also find atlas not so easy. Stupid trolls shoot you through cover, you don't see animation if them shooting and your health just keeps dropping. Or they looking 90 degrees yet shooting you. And those homing rockets.

Even then I do hate geth more. They always make me consume my gels and ops pack.

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Ok guys, I just can't get it.

Only the host really needs something something anti-phantom (like PPR / Marksmanned(5b)-broophoon / Drill-III claymoar with projectile powers/Sabre /Wraith / Talon / Arc Pistol). All other 3 players can just gun down the phantoms. Those players might be at disadvantage of lag, but it applies to any dps-mook.

Geth on the other hand... even when I play Destroyer I get annoyed like no tomorrow, stunlock isn't the only dirty trick they have, they are cheap on so many levels.
It doesn't mean that I can't handle geth, they have their weaknesses, just have no fun versing them.

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No faction can take you from 0 to Sh*tstorm faster than Cerberus. Evading Dragoons right into a turret garden makes me rage pretty frequently. That said, the reason I think Cerberus is only slightly harder than Reapers is simple - if you pay attention to your environment and prioritize enemies, both factions are easily managed the vast majority of the time.

When a Geth Rocket Trooper no-look double taps you around a corner and the frozen Hunter finishes you off you begin to understand the true meaning of pain.

Modifié par thergbcolor, 25 janvier 2014 - 09:26 .


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Kislitsin wrote...

Ok guys, I just can't get it.

Only the host really needs something something anti-phantom (like PPR / Marksmanned(5b)-broophoon / Drill-III claymoar with projectile powers/Sabre /Wraith / Talon / Arc Pistol). All other 3 players can just gun down the phantoms. Those players might be at disadvantage of lag, but it applies to any dps-mook.


I wouldn't rate 4 phantoms as the same level as 4 marauders...not by a long shot.
Too much BS involved with all the dodging maneuvers, bubbles, melees and movement speed...oh, and the invisibility as well.
Said that, I still wouldn't consider cerberus as the hardest faction.

Modifié par Mighty Omnibutton, 25 janvier 2014 - 10:16 .


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Can't see why so many are posting Geth are the most difficult. I've never have had much trouble with them and rarely can't get extraction on gold or plat. The Collectors are much worse, even non-possessed Troopers are tougher than Centurions.

Modifié par Makai81, 25 janvier 2014 - 11:05 .


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Makai81 wrote...

Can't see why so many are posting Geth are the most difficult. I've never have had much trouble with them and rarely can't get extraction on gold or plat. The Collectors are much worse, even non-possessed Troopers are tougher than Centurions.


Yeah Geth are the easiest than Reapers than Collectors than Cerberus