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#101
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People in this thread need to learn how to fight Geth. Everyone is complaining about how they cheat, but no one is exploiting their stupid AI, hard cover, or any of the things they should be. Geth are as easy as Reapers.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Hard cover with non-ramp weapons works just fine.. and when you break the Prime shields he staggers and grunt, this is where you could do some real damage with the ramp guns. The other reason hard cover works on Primes is because they have the lowest DPS of all the boss units... So the 40% less damage you take in hard cover really comes into play.


What if IonlyTakeMeRumpUps?

Primey is the most problematic boss for sustained weapons. He can easily spawn the turret just behind your back, he doesn't have double-hits. Each new Prime will spawn into excistence in the least desirable place. And we have nothing to deplete wave budget as fast as with carebears/collectors.

Gold geth are not tough, they are often lol (at least on-host), but some maps combined with some lag will turn the game into the rage fest. The amount of BS they carry is ridiculous/

Platinim geth are... the whole new story.

Carebears have annoying goons and phantoms, but they deplete wave budget fast (and dragoons are limited on gold).

Hunters and bombers on the other hand do not cost enough for the rage they can induce.

It's boredome and occasional BS-fest that makes geth "difficult"

I enjoy killing pyros though, satisfying to melt the trio of them (until the next three spawn behind my back:bandit:)

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prostheticlimbs wrote...

People in this thread need to learn how to fight Geth. Everyone is complaining about how they cheat, but no one is exploiting their stupid AI, hard cover, or any of the things they should be. Geth are as easy as Reapers.


No one say they are challenging. They are easy to deal with, but they require a very boring gameplay.

And for solo I will choose collectors rippaz or carebears over them 24/7 unless I'm reetard-krolord/guard (and I don't enjoy playing those).

#104
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@Limbs: Thank you.

@Kislitsin: If you only take ramp up weapons you deserve to be punished for being a one-trick-pony. The high lord Claymore wrecks the Geth.. you should try it sometime.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

@Limbs: Thank you.

@Kislitsin: If you only take ramp up weapons you deserve to be punished for being a one-trick-pony. The high lord Claymore wrecks the Geth.. you should try it sometime.


Have your forgotten that I am an adept of the High Lord cult as well.

Rump ups rape geth not worse than claymoar. At least my PPR recharges when bomber-hunter decides to stop me for a second, not so much with claymoar.

Geth punish agressive gameplay in the most cheap and purely executed way. I prefer to have a time to think about my mistakes while being synced and the team clutch the wave. When the primey-hunter-bomber trio is done with me I'm out of a pair of gels, ops and rockets.

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You need to learn how to change tactics Kislitsin.

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Cerberus is fine as long as you (or someone on your squad) can deal with Phantoms. Geth are the same as collectors; it's a matter of learning the tactics.

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prostheticlimbs wrote...

You need to learn how to change tactics Kislitsin.


Do you really think I can't fight geth?

Did you even read my post.

Boring and sometimes annoying geth might be an easy if I was more Rage-resistant.

I would say collectors are the most fair and easy gold faction overall. Reapers are a threat only because of banshees.
Gold Carebears are problematic only because of phantoms, and they can be dealt with often even without stuggercrutches on-host (and always off-host).

I've done gold solo on glacier vs every faction with my PPR-TSent, the geth solo was the only one when the geth scanner was mandatory, and it took me the most time, but it wasn't hard per se, it was boring as hell and annoying at times.

[edit] but if there are tactics which allow to enhance the speed of the game vs geth (in comparison with reapers/cerbs) and don't involve missiles - please enlighten me oh great geth tactician.

Modifié par Kislitsin, 26 janvier 2014 - 06:05 .


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It's not simply to do with tactics, that faction has a number of broken units. The hunter can shoot you even when stunlocked or stasised, The Pyro's flamer's range clearly exceeds what the player can visibly see. Primes pre-fire before even coming round a corner giving you little chance to react - and lets not even mention the stupid pets which can stunlock you and get you behind cover, as can the Bombers with their stupid grenades and their overpowered stun.

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ALTBOULI wrote...

It's not simply to do with tactics, that faction has a number of broken units. The hunter can shoot you even when stunlocked or stasised, The Pyro's flamer's range clearly exceeds what the player can visibly see. Primes pre-fire before even coming round a corner giving you little chance to react - and lets not even mention the stupid pets which can stunlock you and get you behind cover, as can the Bombers with their stupid grenades and their overpowered stun.


Clearly you are the only one who has these problems.

L2P scrub!!

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HoochieHamiltoe wrote...

ALTBOULI wrote...

It's not simply to do with tactics, that faction has a number of broken units. The hunter can shoot you even when stunlocked or stasised, The Pyro's flamer's range clearly exceeds what the player can visibly see. Primes pre-fire before even coming round a corner giving you little chance to react - and lets not even mention the stupid pets which can stunlock you and get you behind cover, as can the Bombers with their stupid grenades and their overpowered stun.


Clearly you are the only one who has these problems.

L2P scrub!!

QFT

Seriously, my problem with them is they force you to play using RHA all the time. I don't find that fun in any way, shape or form. You also can't deny their BS is over the top.

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From the neighbour thread 

megabeast37215 wrote...


You don't.. you die. 

Here's what happens: You have lets say.. a Claymore. You shoot something and start to reload, a hunter shoots you and stops your reload, you try again, he shoots you again and interrupts you. Now you're on health gate, you try to ops pack, he stuns/kills you and your ops pack goes off while you're on the ground and dead. You medi-gel, he elbows you and shoots you some more. Primes and their drones do the same thing.


Mega is caught on hypocricity again... :D

Why don't you use your secret tactics in that case :P

Modifié par Kislitsin, 26 janvier 2014 - 06:16 .


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b00g13man wrote...

HoochieHamiltoe wrote...

ALTBOULI wrote...

It's not simply to do with tactics, that faction has a number of broken units. The hunter can shoot you even when stunlocked or stasised, The Pyro's flamer's range clearly exceeds what the player can visibly see. Primes pre-fire before even coming round a corner giving you little chance to react - and lets not even mention the stupid pets which can stunlock you and get you behind cover, as can the Bombers with their stupid grenades and their overpowered stun.


Clearly you are the only one who has these problems.

L2P scrub!!

QFT

Seriously, my problem with them is they force you to play using RHA The Tactics all the time. I don't find that fun in any way, shape or form. You also can't deny their BS is over the top.


FTFY ^_^

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SoundWraith wrote...

Makai81 wrote...

HoochieHamiltoe wrote...

XxproknifaxX wrote...

Makai81 wrote...

Can't see why so many are posting Geth are the most difficult. I've never have had much trouble with them and rarely can't get extraction on gold or plat. The Collectors are much worse, even non-possessed Troopers are tougher than Centurions.


Yeah Geth are the easiest than Reapers than Collectors than Cerberus
 


:blink:. No way.


Sure, no sync kills, OP turrets, or all of the ridiculous crap the Collectors throw at you(including PS3 screen freeze).


Collectors are manageable if you keep a close eye on their hard hitters. Geth can **** you up from rocket troopers onwards. 


Those pesky Seeker Swarms/Plagues always overload powers and possessed Scions are a pain to deal with.

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Geths are not difficult. But I do not like
Fighting geths.

1. They can be really frustrating with stupid prime pets and ridiculous stunlocks. I definitely extract more against geths than Cerberus or collectors. But, but.. They eat through my ops packs and medigels. Always! Most wtf moments.

2. This sounds lame. But lore. Being a single player fan, I can't imagine them as enemies anymore. Legion's death made me cry and I thought they been duped by the quarian and not vice versa. Even in multiplayer we probably have most geth characters after Humans and Asaris. They sent me the mighty team of Primes after I made peace in Ranoch. I don't really like to see a screaming dying prime.

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Kislitsin wrote...

From the neighbour thread 

megabeast37215 wrote...


You don't.. you die. 

Here's what happens: You have lets say.. a Claymore. You shoot something and start to reload, a hunter shoots you and stops your reload, you try again, he shoots you again and interrupts you. Now you're on health gate, you try to ops pack, he stuns/kills you and your ops pack goes off while you're on the ground and dead. You medi-gel, he elbows you and shoots you some more. Primes and their drones do the same thing.


Mega is caught on hypocricity again... :D

Why don't you use your secret tactics in that case :P


I do... The tactic is run away and create distance.

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I don't think Cerberus is the toughest faction on gold overall, but when I get devices on wave 10 it makes me think about rage quitting even if I haven't used a consumable to that point. Wave 10 devices against Cerberus is arguably the toughest objective wave on gold.

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They have the most dangerous units but are also collectively the easiest to kill quickly. On a laggy host they are the faction I don't want to get.

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[quote]Kislitsin wrote...

 I've been playing since Reaurgence, just save your breath cause I don't have the time to prove myself to anyone or to listen to your rubbish, stop spamming my thread.

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Over time, Geth have definitely become easier for me. Not as easy as Reapers, but at least they spare me the agony of Banshee Teleport synch kills (which don't actually happen often, anymore, but still make me really, really mad.)

On certain maps, they spike in difficulty dramatically (London and Condor spring to mind immediately) but on most, I find them comparable to Cerberus, if not a little easier for their somewhat plodding predictability.

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bgsam1990 wrote...

If you aren't prepared to deal with the dragoon and phantom death squad, Cerberus is a PITA.
Also:
Any character with Venom turns Cerberus into a joke....


This x1000. Hell even on platinum any waves with phantoms turns into a joke wave with a venom.

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Surprised at the claims of Geth being the hardest on Gold. With the exception of one BatSent Reaper solo (and unintended solo at that - started a Gold PuG and no-one joined), all of my Gold solo completions have been against the Geth. I just don't see enough of this "cheating" for them to worry me.

***Geth solo tip if anyone struggles***
Pick ANY infiltrator, select Adas or Cerb Harrier, go to Firebase Ghost. Piece. Of. Cake.

PS. Cerberus harder than Geth on Gold, but Cerberus easiest of all on Bronze and Silver.

Modifié par Minkfish, 27 janvier 2014 - 01:24 .


#123
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XxproknifaxX wrote...

 I've been playing since Reaurgence, just save your breath cause I don't have the time to prove myself to anyone or to listen to your rubbish, stop spamming my thread.


And you still don't know how to play.

Man, you have insulted my solo, it's a serious offence, you should be carefull with you words.
You could have just wrote: "Sorry I'm a scrub who can't do anything but reeger-kroguard-geth, but I still think that PPR gameplay you shown is much easier lol"

If you don't wan't someone to spam your tread - stop saying stupid things about "just 2 kits that destroy cerbers".

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megabeast37215 wrote...

I do... The tactic is run away and create distance.


I do the same Mega, I'm not oligoneuronal, but it doesn't shorten the game ^_^

Spawn nuking on the other hand... 

On gold I rage nuke, on Geth-plat I routinely double-tripple nuke on 2 and 9
The best tactics ever :P

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