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[Face of Darkness]

MasterReefa wrote...

Face of Darkness wrote...

MasterReefa wrote...
ME3 doesn't take skill, aiming does. I know people on xbox who shoot to the best console will allow them to and makes it look good, but no matter what you never really have full control.

So? Whats your point? You still have to aim on both platforms, its just a joystick vs. a mouse. Obviously a mouse is easier, but take the gameplay of the solo of this thread for example; there is nothing special about the way Heldarion aimed relative to a GI on a console. If console pizza hack was possible, do you really think you would see a big difference in time?

:O:O:O:lol::lol::lol::lol:

There's no need to be mad that you don't have what it takes to cut it on console, I mean you said it yourself, aiming takes skill right? Aiming on console is harder right? Therefore takes more skill right?

The best players on console are doing the same things as the best players on PC

[Leland Gaunt]

OMFGHITTSAFDI?

[The One True Crash]

Face of Darkness wrote...

MasterReefa wrote...

Face of Darkness wrote...

MasterReefa wrote...
ME3 doesn't take skill, aiming does. I know people on xbox who shoot to the best console will allow them to and makes it look good, but no matter what you never really have full control.

So? Whats your point? You still have to aim on both platforms, its just a joystick vs. a mouse. Obviously a mouse is easier, but take the gameplay of the solo of this thread for example; there is nothing special about the way Heldarion aimed relative to a GI on a console. If console pizza hack was possible, do you really think you would see a big difference in time?

:O:O:O:lol::lol::lol::lol:

There's no need to be mad that you don't have what it takes to cut it on console, I mean you said it yourself, aiming takes skill right? Aiming on console is harder right? Therefore takes more skill right?

The best players on console are doing the same things as the best players on PC

Then why the hell is there not a sub-13 solo with 3 pizzas?

[Kalas747]

Leland Gaunt wrote...

OMFGHITTSAFDI?

oh my ****ing gawd how is this thread still around for derping insanity?

[Caineghis2500]

Leland Gaunt wrote...

OMFGHITTSAFDIlolstopstrugglingpleas?

FTFY

[GriM_AoD]

Heldarion wrote...

Hi folks.

Heyo

[d_nought]

Face of Darkness wrote...

MasterReefa wrote...

Face of Darkness wrote...

MasterReefa wrote...
ME3 doesn't take skill, aiming does. I know people on xbox who shoot to the best console will allow them to and makes it look good, but no matter what you never really have full control.

So? Whats your point? You still have to aim on both platforms, its just a joystick vs. a mouse. Obviously a mouse is easier, but take the gameplay of the solo of this thread for example; there is nothing special about the way Heldarion aimed relative to a GI on a console. If console pizza hack was possible, do you really think you would see a big difference in time?

:O:O:O:lol::lol::lol::lol:

There's no need to be mad that you don't have what it takes to cut it on console, I mean you said it yourself, aiming takes skill right? Aiming on console is harder right? Therefore takes more skill right?

The best players on console are doing the same things as the best players on PC

Good aim on console is harder to acquire but can only go so far since you cannot have very much precision and turn speed at the same time. With mouse and keyboard, one can headshot consecutive targets much more quickly, but of course doing so at the highest level of human possibility (i.e. close to aimbot level) takes years of obsessive practice and will most likely make you too good for your own good.

[Face of Darkness]

CrashUrStox wrote...

Then why the hell is there not a sub-13 solo with 3 pizzas?

Bc you can't run with the pizza and more importantly, matching up your best run with the 1 in 75 chance of getting 3 pizzas is not very likely. Taking random objectives into account probably adds a good 2 minutes to the time.

If PC players are sooooo certain I'm wrong, then accept the following challenge:

Hack your objectives to be random but with no pizzas at all. Break 15 minutes and I'll admit I'm wrong. The entire basis of this is that you cannot choose the objectives, so you don't necessarily need to hack, but if you get a pizza, you cannot run with it

Modifié par Face of Darkness, 26 janvier 2014 - 07:17 .

[Caldari Ghost]

GriM_AoD wrote...

Heldarion wrote...

Hi folks.

Heyo

hey

[Heldarion]

Face of Darkness wrote...

Bc you can't run with the pizza and more importantly, matching up your best run with the 1 in 75 chance of getting 3 pizzas is not very likely. Taking random objectives into account probably adds a good 2 minutes to the time.

If PC players are sooooo certain I'm wrong, then accept the following challenge:

Hack your objectives to be random but with no pizzas at all. Break 15 minutes and I'll admit I'm wrong. The entire basis of this is that you cannot choose the objectives.

That would require to essentially grind the game until triple escort (maybe even triple hack or any combination of these two). I'm 100% you can go sub 15 with that.

However, I have no idea why I should be bothered to.

[Face of Darkness]

I'm sure you can too, but you're again relying on a 1 in 75 chance (or 1 in 64 if you're hacking out pizzas)

I applaud you for not caring to do so, bc really, no one should care. It's honestly hilarious that PC players get so rustled by these arguments

[Caldari Ghost]

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Modifié par Caldari Ghost, 26 janvier 2014 - 07:21 .

[SlimJim0725]

Heldarion wrote...

Face of Darkness wrote...

Bc you can't run with the pizza and more importantly, matching up your best run with the 1 in 75 chance of getting 3 pizzas is not very likely. Taking random objectives into account probably adds a good 2 minutes to the time.

If PC players are sooooo certain I'm wrong, then accept the following challenge:

Hack your objectives to be random but with no pizzas at all. Break 15 minutes and I'll admit I'm wrong. The entire basis of this is that you cannot choose the objectives.

That would require to essentially grind the game until triple escort (maybe even triple hack or any combination of these two). I'm 100% you can go sub 15 with that.

However, I have no idea why I should be bothered to.

Because you are demanded to prove your l33t skill to the console players that have no clue what they are talking about. (This is coming from a console player)

Why should they have no pizza at all? Maybe the stipulation of no pizza running would be more fair since that would bring it to an even playing field with consoles. Why should they be forced to be without what is usually one of the quickest objectives?

[Face of Darkness]

lmao why does this get ppl so mad?

Yes all I'm trying to do is even the playing field, and if you look above I edited my post to say exactly what you did; feel free to not hack, and just do the random objectives, but no running with a pizza. If you don't get that hacking pizzas makes 3 of the harder waves into by far 3 of the 4 easiest waves, then idk what to tell you.

It's just a challenge, but I guess lolling and not bothering is easier

Modifié par Face of Darkness, 26 janvier 2014 - 07:30 .

[Heldarion]

Face of Darkness wrote...

lmao why does this get ppl so mad?

Yes all I'm trying to do is even the playing field, and if you look above I edited my post to say exactly what you did; feel free to not hack, and just do the random objectives, but no running with a pizza.

It's just a challenge, but I guess lolling and not bothering is easier

If you want to truly level the playing field I should also be required to not look around while running, wait for 25 more seconds at the beginning of the game before I can start killing enemies, and not switch between enemies as quickly as I can, always aim at the centre of the body mass after scoping in, then pull the nuzzle up and headshot.

In other words, levelling the playing field is an illusion. You either play on PC or you don't.

[The One True Crash]

Face of Darkness wrote...

lmao why does this get ppl so mad?

Because you are wrong.

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

Heldarion wrote...

Face of Darkness wrote...

lmao why does this get ppl so mad?

Yes all I'm trying to do is even the playing field, and if you look above I edited my post to say exactly what you did; feel free to not hack, and just do the random objectives, but no running with a pizza.

It's just a challenge, but I guess lolling and not bothering is easier

If you want to truly level the playing field I should also be required to not look around while running, wait for 25 more seconds at the beginning of the game before I can start killing enemies, and not switch between enemies as quickly as I can, always aim at the centre of the body mass after scoping in, then pull the nuzzle up and headshot.

In other words, levelling the playing field is an illusion. You either play on PC or you don't.

I think you can turn autoaim on via the coalesced. Not sure why you'd want to, though.

Modifié par FatherOfPearl, 26 janvier 2014 - 07:33 .

[Lady Abstract]

LOL people are still arguing over this? I play games on PC and Xbox. I played Mass Effect 2 on PC. I honestly would prefer a PC gaming controller. If i find that a game on PC is controller compatible ide get it for PC instead. Ide rather use a mouse and keyboard for games like the Sims or Diablo.

[Geek]

Consoles have 1 in 125 chance at three pizzas. Not sure where this 1 in 75 number comes from.

We've gone over the differences between console and pc plenty of times but solo glacier loading is about 15 seconds faster on PC than Xbox. Running with the pizza on glacier is about 20 seconds per objective, so a minute total there.

But these things are all well known and have been discussed to death. The problem with speed running in a game like this is there are so many things left to chance. But the thing that isn't the actual gameplay, is pretty impressive.

[Face of Darkness]

Heldarion wrote...

If you want to truly level the playing field I should also be required to not look around while running, wait for 25 more seconds at the beginning of the game before I can start killing enemies, and not switch between enemies as quickly as I can, always aim at the centre of the body mass after scoping in, then pull the nuzzle up and headshot.

In other words, levelling the playing field is an illusion. You either play on PC or you don't.

...or you could just do what I challenged you to do? That would be enough for me, but again, I guess its easier to take an elitist attitude and not do it at all

[Kislitsin]

QU33N_ANG3L wrote...

LOL people are still arguing over this? I play games on PC and Xbox. I played Mass Effect 2 on PC. I honestly would prefer a PC gaming controller. If i find that a game on PC is controller compatible ide get it for PC instead. Ide rather use a mouse and keyboard for games like the Sims or Diablo.

Whut? I don't even... 




Ok.

[Face of Darkness]

CrashUrStox wrote...

Face of Darkness wrote...

lmao why does this get ppl so mad?

Because you are wrong.

but accepting my simple challenge is asking too much?

Modifié par Face of Darkness, 26 janvier 2014 - 07:54 .

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

Stop being a goddamn idiot.

PC and console will never be comparable. This is coming from a console player, btw

Modifié par FatherOfPearl, 26 janvier 2014 - 08:00 .

[DragonRacer]

I just spent an hour catching up on reading this thread.

I am not sure the amusement was worth it, but I do find it interesting that it's gone from basically one major argument to now a completely new one forming.

Heldarion, what have you wrought upon us?