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[AlanC9]

dreamgazer wrote...

caldas wrote...

If you copy and paste Oblivion's (the movie) ending into ME3 it improves 100%

LOLwut?  How does the very minor differences between the two endings, aside from the bull involving the clones' memories, improve things in any way?

Because there's no choice. It's just another pro-Destroy argument cloaked in nonsense.

Modifié par AlanC9, 26 janvier 2014 - 07:27 .

[Han Shot First]

dreamgazer wrote...

caldas wrote...

If you copy and paste Oblivion's (the movie) ending into ME3 it improves 100%

LOLwut?  How does the very minor differences between the two endings, aside from the bull involving the clones' memories, improve things in any way?

Probably because in Oblivion's finale the main character gets to tell the Synthetic Overlord to go fvck itself. I can see where that would be more satisfying on some levels. One of the major gripes with ME3's endings were that your ending choices are presented to you by the God-King of the Reapers.

[spirosz]

And your profile is private, hilarious.

[dreamgazer]

Han Shot First wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

caldas wrote...

If you copy and paste Oblivion's (the movie) ending into ME3 it improves 100%

LOLwut?  How does the very minor differences between the two endings, aside from the bull involving the clones' memories, improve things in any way?

Probably because in Oblivion's finale the main character gets to tell the Synthetic Overlord to go fvck itself. I can see where that would be more satisfying on some levels. One of the major gripes with ME3's endings were that your ending choices are presented to you by the God-King of the Reapers.

The difference between Oblivion's ending and a resistant Shepard choosing Destroy in the Extended Cut isn't all that far apart, though. 

Modifié par dreamgazer, 26 janvier 2014 - 07:39 .

[AlanC9]

He's got a point, though. Simply killing the Catalyst isn't emotionally satisfying to some folks; they want to deliver a big damn speech and then kill him.

Modifié par AlanC9, 26 janvier 2014 - 07:40 .

[spirosz]

AlanC9 wrote...


He's got a point, though. Simply killing the Catalyst isn't emotionally satisfying to some folks; they want to deliver a big damn speech and then kill him.

Makes sense. 

[Darks1d3]

AlanC9 wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Eat a D!ck gazer. Preferably your own, but your moma's would do :wizard:

What are you, twelve?

I think "yo momma" jokes have become timeless. I've lost count how many xbox gamertags I've seen that are a variation of the "yo momma" insult. Some were kids, some were grown men. Lets see,

There was "YourOwnMom" (for example, on halo 2, You Were Killed By YourOwnMom)

Or my personal favorite "J1z0nUrM0m"

[AlanC9]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Tougher than you. Why do you you care. You wanna hold it for him. You Alan, and gazer. The Holy Trinity of scrub.

Keep it up. This is hilarious.

[marcelo caldas]

AlanC9 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

caldas wrote...

If you copy and paste Oblivion's (the movie) ending into ME3 it improves 100%

LOLwut?  How does the very minor differences between the two endings, aside from the bull involving the clones' memories, improve things in any way?

Because there's no choice. It's just another pro-Destroy argument cloaked in nonsense.

Sure I'm a pro-destroy, but I'd rather have that than 3 other choiches cloaked in only one. I have no problem with choice, after all is that ME is about.
The Oblivion's argument was better too, the AI did that just to survive. Simple, clean, less budget, etc. Not great or epic, but simply put and good.

[AlanC9]

caldas wrote...


Sure I'm a pro-destroy, but I'd rather have that than 3 other choiches cloaked in only one. I have no problem with choice, after all is that ME is about.

I don't know what you mean by the italed bit.

[marcelo caldas]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Tougher than you. Why do you you care. You wanna hold it for him. You Alan, and gazer. The Holy Trinity of scrub.

Keep it up. This is hilarious.

Good, I'm here for entertainment purposes only.

www.youtube.com/watch

Good movie, worst finale ever, just like ME3.

[Han Shot First]

caldas wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Tougher than you. Why do you you care. You wanna hold it for him. You Alan, and gazer. The Holy Trinity of scrub.

Keep it up. This is hilarious.

Good, I'm here for entertainment purposes only.

www.youtube.com/watch

Good movie, worst finale ever, just like ME3.

I couldn't disagree more. Gladiator's ending was perfect.

[RZIBARA]

Neonflux shut your trap and stop being such a ME2 fanboy, you immature brat

[AlanC9]

Going back a bit in the thread, I just ran into a really obnoxious paraphrase in ME2. The Paragon speech in the Khalisah al-Jilani interview with the Destiny Ascension destroyed is "We created an opportunity." What Shepard ends up talking about is that getting the Council killed in ME1 created a political opportunity for humanity, as opposed to creating a better opportunity to attack Sovereign. This Shepard gave the "nothing else matters" order in ME1, so I was naturally expecting the latter interpretation.

I get the intent of the paraphrase right almost all the time, so this one brought me up short.

[marcelo caldas]

AlanC9 wrote...

caldas wrote...


Sure I'm a pro-destroy, but I'd rather have that than 3 other choiches cloaked in only one. I have no problem with choice, after all is that ME is about.

I don't know what you mean by the italed bit.

I meant, the 3 choices are basically the same, we have the illusion of choice and in the end is all the same, reapers are gone, Shepard is no more (besides destroy maybe?), problem solved, everyone is happy ever after, ME4 will pretend everything never heppened.

[AlanC9]

Han Shot First wrote...


I couldn't disagree more. Gladiator's ending was perfect.

How else could it have ended?

[AlanC9]

caldas wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

caldas wrote...
Sure I'm a pro-destroy, but I'd rather have that than 3 other choiches cloaked in only one. I have no problem with choice, after all is that ME is about.

I don't know what you mean by the italed bit.

I meant, the 3 choices are basically the same, we have the illusion of choice and in the end is all the same, reapers are gone, Shepard is no more (besides destroy maybe?), problem solved, everyone is happy ever after, ME4 will pretend everything never heppened.

Wait... you really can't tell Synthesis from Destroy? Or is is just that you presume Bio's going to go the KotOR 2 route with the sequel?

[Han Shot First]

dreamgazer wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

caldas wrote...

If you copy and paste Oblivion's (the movie) ending into ME3 it improves 100%

LOLwut?  How does the very minor differences between the two endings, aside from the bull involving the clones' memories, improve things in any way?

Probably because in Oblivion's finale the main character gets to tell the Synthetic Overlord to go fvck itself. I can see where that would be more satisfying on some levels. One of the major gripes with ME3's endings were that your ending choices are presented to you by the God-King of the Reapers.

The difference between Oblivion's ending and a resistant Shepard choosing Destroy in the Extended Cut isn't all that far apart, though. 

I don't disagree. In either case you get to blow the Synthetic Overlord to hell. But I can see where some people might find Oblivion's version of it more satisfying.

In a way the interaction with the Catalyst is a bit bizarre in that Shepard can't take a confrontational approach towards him (other than the epic fail refuse route), considering you can with every other antagonist in the series. Whether its Saren, Sovereign, Harbinger, the Illusive Man, or Kai Leng...Shepard can tell them all to go pound sand.

[Han Shot First]

AlanC9 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...


I couldn't disagree more. Gladiator's ending was perfect.

How else could it have ended?

I'm guessing with Maximus riding off into the sunset?

That would have been a far less satisfying conclusion though, IMO. Gladiator had an ending that fit perfectly with the rest of the film.

[NeonFlux117]

With Maximus and his Legions storming Rome. Killing all those lazy scrub politicians and then crucifying that punk Commodus. Then Maximus dies in battle. Not some arena.

Ending still decent tho. Gladiator is a great film. Top 20 ever in my opinion.

Now Spartacus (The show on Starz) did it right. That ending was E.P.I.C.

[marcelo caldas]

[quote]Han Shot First wrote...

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Good movie, worst finale ever, just like ME3.

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I couldn't disagree more. Gladiator's ending was perfect.


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Come on, the skinny, weak, coward, incestuous emperor trying to beat the greatest gladiator/strategist ever?
Than he dies obviously, and everybody forgets CAESAR lying dead and carry the gladiator as a hero?

You have to agree that they could come up something better.

Modifié par caldas, 26 janvier 2014 - 08:16 .

[marcelo caldas]

AlanC9 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...


I couldn't disagree more. Gladiator's ending was perfect.

How else could it have ended?

Maximus wounded dying in the arena fighting a regular gladiator would be believable at least.
but let's go back to ME.

[Han Shot First]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

With Maximus and his Legions storming Rome. Killing all those lazy scrub politicians and then crucifying that punk Commodus. Then Maximus dies in battle. Not some arena.

The film is named Gladiator. The film ending in the arena shouldn't come as a surprise.

Come on, the skinny, weak, coward, incestuous emperor trying to beat the greatest gladiator/strategist ever?
Than he dies obviously, and everybody forgets CAESAR lying dead and carry the gladiator as a hero?

You have to agree that they could come up something better.

Commodus was supposed to be an unpopular Emperor. In the film he using the games as a distraction for his own mismanagement of the country. Given the backdrop, no one being sad to see him go makes sense.

And historically Roman Emperors were murdered all the time (including Commodus, though it didn't happen as depicted in the film). It was business as usual.

caldas wrote...

Maximus wounded dying in the arena fighting a regular gladiator would be believable at least.
but let's go back to ME.

Maximus dies fighting some random gladiator while Commodus, the film's main antagonist, reclines on a couch and applauds? That would have been anti-climactic.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 26 janvier 2014 - 08:35 .

[Argentoid]

dreamgazer wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Derpy 'rieting' is just that. Derpy.

Best thing BW could do is go get back Drew K. 

How is bringing back the guy responsible for telepathic plants, mental ciphers, Project Lazarus, "Ah yes, Reapers" and the pointless plot of ME2 going to make thing any less "derpy" again?

But, yeah, Drew K. fanboys are certainly going to scrub.