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 I am one of the rare individuals who has not done the ME3 single-player campaign.*  I am finally doing so.  I imported a male Shep who saived Kaidan on Virmire and got with Jack in ME2 (seriously, best character in the series).  

I have just gotten through with Priority: Mars.  As I'm sure you're all aware, Kaidan gets his head caved in by a robot at the end of that mission.  Shepard carries Kaidan back aboard, and then...I don't know.  Appears to completely lose his head, staring longingly at Kaidan in medbay, to the point where Liara has to interrupt his line of sight, twice, in order to get him to do something other than look like he's about to cry.  

This has me concerned that I somehow inadvertently got on the romance path with him.  I'm aware he's a potential romance option for male Shepards.  I restarted the mission and exclusively used Renegade dialogue with him this time, but the same cutscene resulted.  I'm dearly hoping that saving Kaidan on Virmire doesn't automatically put you on the romance path with him two games later, because even Shepard's conversation with an unconscious Kaidan when I continued along and got to the Citadel seemed...charged.



*I figured there would be plenty of DLC, and wanted to wait to do a single, final playthrough of the last game in the trilogy until it was complete, and just did MP in the meantime.  By the time that occurred, I'd kind of forgotten about the game.

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Nah, that's just the way the scene is animated. It's kind of overdone in either Ash/Kaidan's case, I guess. ME3 is supposed to be "more emotional". Just wait till you get to the dream scenes. Too bad you can't skip it.

Anyways, you'll have to be more proactive if you want to romance Kaidan.

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Khavos wrote...

Jack in ME2 (seriously, best character in the series).  



All that matters. 

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Khavos wrote...

I have just gotten through with Priority: Mars.  As I'm sure you're all aware, Kaidan gets his head caved in by a robot at the end of that mission.  Shepard carries Kaidan back aboard, and then...I don't know.  Appears to completely lose his head, staring longingly at Kaidan in medbay, to the point where Liara has to interrupt his line of sight, twice, in order to get him to do something other than look like he's about to cry.  

This has me concerned that I somehow inadvertently got on the romance path with him.  I'm aware he's a potential romance option for male Shepards.  I restarted the mission and exclusively used Renegade dialogue with him this time, but the same cutscene resulted.  I'm dearly hoping that saving Kaidan on Virmire doesn't automatically put you on the romance path with him two games later, because even Shepard's conversation with an unconscious Kaidan when I continued along and got to the Citadel seemed...charged.


Nah, don't worry about it.  It's just Shep being concerned about the other half of the Virmire situation nearly getting killed.

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Shepard has that about to cry look whether you romanced the VS or hate him, or anything in between. Image IPB  It doesn't mean you are locked into a romance with him. Lock-in's for romance occur around the mid-point of the game, and they are pretty obvious. If you are worried about it and want to make sure you stick with Jack, do her meet ups before anyone else's.
Enjoy your first time through the game!

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Will I have more of these ambiguously romantic cut scenes with Kaidan to cringe at?

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Khavos wrote...

Will I have more of these ambiguously romantic cut scenes with Kaidan to cringe at?


One more, I think.

But you'll have more with other characters. If getting this trilogy done with is important to you, then bear with it, I guess.

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Khavos wrote...

Will I have more of these ambiguously romantic cut scenes with Kaidan to cringe at?


Sort of. There's a scene at the hospital you might find a little too close for comfort.  

Didn't bother me, since it just seemed like old friends who've been through shit together, but it could bug those more sensitive to that kind of thing. 

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That is the one scene that gave me very high hopes of VS's performance or role in ME3. Turns out to be one of the biggest let downs.

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Khavos wrote...

Will I have more of these ambiguously romantic cut scenes with Kaidan to cringe at?


if you're a homophobe then why did you save Kaidan in the first place?

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As long as you're romancing...well anyone of your choosing...you wont be ninjamanced by Kaidan. Or the other Gay option. ME3 is pretty good at figuring out your preferences. Heck I took nearly every overly friendly, paragon-huggy option with one of the gay options (avoiding spoilers) and they still didn't make a pass at me because they knew my real sexual orientation.

That orientation being... 'Quarian-Curious'  :whistle:

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 26 janvier 2014 - 08:59 .


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Yeah, and in ME2 Shepard cries when he finally for revenge on Cerberus for killing his men on Akuze (by getting Miranda and Jacob killed). Deal with it.

And technically speaking you don't have to talk to Kaidan in the hospital. You know, in case you want to save the galaxy rather than play Sims! in Space!

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TheGarden2010 wrote...

if you're a homophobe then why did you save Kaidan in the first place?


wat

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TheGarden2010 wrote...

if you're a homophobe then why did you save Kaidan in the first place?

It's stretching the definition of "homophobia" considerably to have it include "not wanting to engage in a homosexual romance as a heterosexual."

I'd contend the actual homophobic choice would be to have gone, "Well, I'm going to kill off the guy who's into dudes (despite the fact that he gives no indication of being into dudes back here in 2008) because he's into dudes!"  Kaidan can be straight, gay, bi, pansexual, whatever the hell he wants to be, and I couldn't care less.  When the game starts forcing it to appear as though my particular Shep's the same way, that's when I get annoyed.

Regardless, I chose to save Kaidan because it came down to a choice between a (rare) biotic officer and a mundane trigger-puller grunt.  

Modifié par Khavos, 26 janvier 2014 - 11:35 .


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Cutlass Jack wrote...

As long as you're romancing...well anyone of your choosing...you wont be ninjamanced by Kaidan. Or the other Gay option. ME3 is pretty good at figuring out your preferences. Heck I took nearly every overly friendly, paragon-huggy option with one of the gay options (avoiding spoilers) and they still didn't make a pass at me because they knew my real sexual orientation.

That orientation being... 'Quarian-Curious'  :whistle:


Don't agree, my main Shep romances Miranda and i'm now always very careful with Kaidan as the game refuses to recognise her romance till i lock it in which happens relatively late. First time round my straight Shep had Kaidan making a pass at him out of nowhere.

Modifié par wright1978, 26 janvier 2014 - 11:44 .


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I don't see the issue.

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Mr.House wrote...

I don't see the issue.


Same - showing affection needn't be sexually motivated.

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TheGarden2010 wrote...

if you're a homophobe then why did you save Kaidan in the first place?

It's stretching the definition of "homophobia" considerably to have it include "not wanting to engage in a homosexual romance as a heterosexual."

No - the implication is clearly that you should kill all homosexuals rather than talk to them, which is homophobic

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 26 janvier 2014 - 01:42 .


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Khavos wrote...

TheGarden2010 wrote...

if you're a homophobe then why did you save Kaidan in the first place?

It's stretching the definition of "homophobia" considerably to have it include "not wanting to engage in a homosexual romance as a heterosexual."

I'd contend the actual homophobic choice would be to have gone, "Well, I'm going to kill off the guy who's into dudes (despite the fact that he gives no indication of being into dudes back here in 2008) because he's into dudes!"  Kaidan can be straight, gay, bi, pansexual, whatever the hell he wants to be, and I couldn't care less.  When the game starts forcing it to appear as though my particular Shep's the same way, that's when I get annoyed.

Regardless, I chose to save Kaidan because it came down to a choice between a (rare) biotic officer and a mundane trigger-puller grunt.  


I sure hate playing most games with this straight romance shoved down my throat.

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Khavos wrote...

 I am one of the rare individuals who has not done the ME3 single-player campaign.*  I am finally doing so.  I imported a male Shep who saived Kaidan on Virmire and got with Jack in ME2 (seriously, best character in the series).  

I have just gotten through with Priority: Mars.  As I'm sure you're all aware, Kaidan gets his head caved in by a robot at the end of that mission.  Shepard carries Kaidan back aboard, and then...I don't know.  Appears to completely lose his head, staring longingly at Kaidan in medbay, to the point where Liara has to interrupt his line of sight, twice, in order to get him to do something other than look like he's about to cry.  

This has me concerned that I somehow inadvertently got on the romance path with him.  I'm aware he's a potential romance option for male Shepards.  I restarted the mission and exclusively used Renegade dialogue with him this time, but the same cutscene resulted.  I'm dearly hoping that saving Kaidan on Virmire doesn't automatically put you on the romance path with him two games later, because even Shepard's conversation with an unconscious Kaidan when I continued along and got to the Citadel seemed...charged.



*I figured there would be plenty of DLC, and wanted to wait to do a single, final playthrough of the last game in the trilogy until it was complete, and just did MP in the meantime.  By the time that occurred, I'd kind of forgotten about the game.


It is possible  to get a Gay Male Shepard , My First time  I didn't realize that i had talked a nother male  crew member into a  romance till it was too late  i thought i had it taken care of till mass Effect 2 when i walked into the Captins Quarters and see the Pic of the Male Love Intrest  .  Rember that was My very First time Playing Mass Effect

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My Shepard acted romantically grief-stricken over the VS even though I moved on to someone else in ME2 and preferred that person. What you describe sounds like an accidental romance flag or something.

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That look Shepard gives could mean anything, and it's completely up to you. You could even headcanon that Shepard is secretly rejoicing at the prospect of his super-secret arch-nemesis dying by the hands of a sexbot... But he needs to remain "worried" in order to trick Liara...

Seriously though, that type of headcanon scares me.

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yea accidental romance lol it took me a run through or two but it never hade it happen to me again lol
I switched to Female Shepard better looking lol

Modifié par Jackal13th, 26 janvier 2014 - 02:42 .


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Fandango9641 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

I don't see the issue.


Same - showing affection needn't be sexually motivated.

Bah. If the OP got the same scene I did, then Shepard shows a depth of emotion that should never be considered a guarantee for players who did not romance the VS.

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Nightwriter wrote...

My Shepard acted romantically grief-stricken over the VS even though I moved on to someone else in ME2 and preferred that person. What you describe sounds like an accidental romance flag or something.

Seems like they used the one animation for either scenario. Shep is stressed either because their LI or close friend got hurt, but if you're not close friends or an LI it comes of a really hammy. I remember my femshep had a similar reaction to Ashley despite that not even being an option as an LI.