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[Dovakiin_N7]

jrm_ayun wrote...

Dovakiin-TheSlayer wrote...

OP was about opinions and IMHO soloing goes against the concept of multiplayer. If there was no Lone wolf challenge, I would have never even tried it. I admit I might not be as good soloing, but IMO there are other ( for ex , "over the cover grab") challenge more difficult yet perfectly legitimate for multiplayer.

Make solo available in case you find no one in lobby, but do not create challenges that I need to spend 100s of hours trying to solo in a group game I enjoy playing with PUGs and friends.

You don't want the game to be soloable because you spent 100s of hours into it? Why did you even do the lone wolf challenge then? For the BoB banner? Serious question 

no. I don't have BOB yet. I am saying spending so much time in solo feels like singleplayer campaign (Armex arena citadel), goes against the spirit of multiplayer gaming. What is so hard to understand? I feel its bizarre. It's my opinion and Offcourse u could disagree.

[millahnna]

So don't solo and don't get BOTB banner. No problem.

[treksterme]

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To answer this... look at the non-cheating challenge list leaders... and you tell me... When they have 1 or 2 challenges (Solo and Geth mastery) at 100+ and the rest aren't completed... and are top rated... how is this right?

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Well I find find that a bit hard to believe (do you have some links?) but if people want to play the game with endless gold solos against geth on the same map using the same small collection of kits and weapons (presumeably they all have specter mastery completed as well), all power to them. That's their choice, why do you want to stop them from doing that? How is it hurting anyone else?
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Seriously? ... look at the leaderboad..
cheating: 
ralfono123
7706495
tyriankid

solo exclusive:
Losperritos
N7_ZeReaper
Honest_Scammer
Cheerful_Loser
Best_Team_Player
Herkis21
fjrh1970
Arynia
Jjax
-llIArt-DayZlIl-
roberto777
suicidalvanguard
N7_Paolo
InnerAnimal

The cop out is that when most them above start doing the solo/geth runs, they turn off their public profile, because they know they will catch major grief....

Why do I want them to stop? I don't. But I also think BW should not have SOLO be a multiple achievement challenge/banner. It should be like Best of the Best and achieveable only once, so it can't be spammed. It doesn't *hurt* anyone else... but if you are trying to raise up in the standings it's very hard doing it legit...

Modifié par treksterme, 28 janvier 2014 - 06:01 .

[Kislitsin]

Annomander wrote...

*l33t console player disables auto aim*

*dies to various enemies in ME4 MP*

*makes thread on BSN QQ'ing about the game being too difficult*

Leems segit.

I will once again point to the videos of one Uh Cold, a player who's entire playstyle soley depends on snap to auto aim and friction multipliers.

Go digging in the game files, the game isn't coded to snap to the centre of mass. It's the "variables" here which make the difference between an aim assist and an aimbot.

Will your option also disable targeting friction? How about adhesion multipliers? Or should they just include the magnetic correction we see in call of duty, so the bullets literally just aim themselves at the nearest enemy player instead of where you're pointing your gun?

Just out of curiousity, does autoaim work with spinned-up Spitfire/Broophoon/Lazor on the consoles? Or they need to correct the stream with analogs without assist?

@treksterme: lol, just lol. Yep, lets cap the only somewhat challenging challenge, cuz grind of points with kits/weapons requires so much skill.

Modifié par Kislitsin, 28 janvier 2014 - 06:15 .

[Nitrocuban]

- lag
- stagger
- screenshake
In that order.

[Peer of the Empire]

Soldiers too weak at beginning
Only 1 kind of heavy weapon
Slow store

Modifié par Peer of the Empire, 28 janvier 2014 - 08:00 .

[millahnna]

Ok clearly I'm not explaining my confusion very well. Who cars about the leader boards in this game? I truly don't understand the point.

[Tokenusername]

We need the leaderboards to remain pure so that my e-peen my rise freely amon the unwashed masses.

[Dovakiin_N7]

millahnna wrote...

Ok clearly I'm not explaining my confusion very well. Who cars about the leader boards in this game? I truly don't understand the point.

A lot. That is why my point. Peopel would care if game makers encourage it. At least that is the goal. A lot of people care about, fastest solo, highest points, leaderboards , minifest , challenges, etc. Are you telling me you dont care at all. Dont even try to complete the challenges ?

Modifié par Dovakiin-TheSlayer, 28 janvier 2014 - 08:16 .

[Malanek]

treksterme wrote...

solo exclusive:
Losperritos
N7_ZeReaper
Honest_Scammer
Cheerful_Loser
Best_Team_Player
Herkis21
fjrh1970
Arynia
Jjax
-llIArt-DayZlIl-
roberto777
suicidalvanguard
N7_Paolo
InnerAnimal

The cop out is that when most them above start doing the solo/geth runs, they turn off their public profile, because they know they will catch major grief....

Why do I want them to stop? I don't. But I also think BW should not have SOLO be a multiple achievement challenge/banner. It should be like Best of the Best and achieveable only once, so it can't be spammed. It doesn't *hurt* anyone else... but if you are trying to raise up in the standings it's very hard doing it legit...

I can't seem to view any manifests atm, bioware seems to be having issues, I will look later. So the only real issue you have is how quick you can accumulate challenge points with solos? In that case I would have absolutely no issue if this was balanced, in fact I couldn't care less. Getting lone wolf is probably the fastest way to get a banner. However i'm not convinced that it is the fastest way to earn challenge points, if anything the weapon challenges give you the most at the fastest speed.

But messing around with the challenge points is completely different than actively discouraging solo play, which was the original statement.

Edit : OK, N7HQ is back up and I had a look. Only one of the first 5 you listed had a viewable profile. With that person, only 10% of their challenge points were from the lone wolf challenge (even though they had completed it 185 times). There wasn't a massive bias towards geth... 69 times comapred to 58, 59 and 55 times for the others. The standout stat for me, apart from the overall numbers, was completing combat mastery including overhand grabs 3, 45 times!!! So after looking at what you presented, I just have no idea where you are coming from.

Modifié par Malanek999, 29 janvier 2014 - 12:54 .

[millahnna]

Dovakiin-TheSlayer wrote...

millahnna wrote...

Ok clearly I'm not explaining my confusion very well. Who cars about the leader boards in this game? I truly don't understand the point.

A lot. That is why my point. Peopel would care if game makers encourage it. At least that is the goal. A lot of people care about, fastest solo, highest points, leaderboards , minifest , challenges, etc. Are you telling me you dont care at all. Dont even try to complete the challenges ?

That is exactly what I'm saying. I'm old school gamer; I don't see the point of the whole badges/challenges/achievments system that's overtaken gaming in the last 5-10 years. Anyone who has been gaming as long as I have can tell you it's come at the expense of actual content. I  did a couple of the challenges on purpose for banners I wanted but other than that I don't see the point and I certainly don't want the devs doing something to make it so that those of us who don't care about that junk would feel compelled to do so. I play this game for fun, not to grind for a score that's meaningless.

Modifié par millahnna, 28 janvier 2014 - 09:30 .