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[MageTarot]

Good afternoon, all.

This was listed in "The Spy" column for the February 2014 issue of PC Gamer magazine. I didn't see it listed anywhere else in the forums so I thought I'd post it here. Not saying 'yea' or 'nay' on whether the Spy has it right but just thought I'd pass this along:

     "In any event, no game series has the power to shatter the collective dreams of millions of fervent fans quite like Mass Effect does at the moment. However you felt about the ending, the trilogy doesn't need a sequel -- but it'll get one, because nothing motivates creativity quite like a bag of money. Which isn't to say that the fourth Mass Effect game will be bad, necessarily. It's just that it will be surprising if it isn't. BioWare has to prove that the entire enterprise isn't pointless before they do anything else, and that isn't traditionally a position of strength. See, err, every other business-mandated sequel ever made.
     Details are starting to emerge. Rumor has it that substantial clues about the game's setting leaked out during private sessions at PAX. Revealed were two new types of aliens - a skeletal race with glowing eyes and a frilly neck, plus space golems that look a bit like Reapers - as well as beautiful hi-def shots of Asari, Salarians, Humans and Krogan running in Frostbite. That suggests that it's not going to be set during a previous galactic cycle -- although that was always unlikely, because BioWare'll want to have humans in it. 
     According to the rumors, BioWare led by asking the question "What does N7 mean to us?" This is primarily interesting as an example of branding at work. N7 was the designation of the class of special forces soldiers that Shepard belonged to, and over the course of the series it went from being a minor detail to a huge part of the game's iconography -- particularly when it came to multiplayer. If Electronic Arts and BioWare are unwilling to lose it as a symbol, that suggests that Shepard will still have a role to play. The Spy is calling it: Mass Effect 4 will be set after the events of the trilogy, and Shepard's legend will be represented by N7 logos plastered everywhere. Expect galaxy-spanning retcons to make sense of it all.
     There's also talk of explorable planets, land vehicles, and recreating a sense of strangeness, however, so there's still hope. The Spy wants to believe. But then he also wants to know where his pants are, and you can't always get what you want."

Feel free to post thoughts, concerns, and criticisms. Do you think the Spy is onto something? Or do you think he's on something?

[AlanC9]

MageTarot wrote...

     According to the rumors, BioWare led by asking the question "What does N7 mean to us?" This is primarily interesting as an example of branding at work. N7 was the designation of the class of special forces soldiers that Shepard belonged to, and over the course of the series it went from being a minor detail to a huge part of the game's iconography -- particularly when it came to multiplayer. If Electronic Arts and BioWare are unwilling to lose it as a symbol, that suggests that Shepard will still have a role to play. The Spy is calling it: Mass Effect 4 will be set after the events of the trilogy, and Shepard's legend will be represented by N7 logos plastered everywhere. Expect galaxy-spanning retcons to make sense of it all.

This is just silly. N7 represents a lot of people besides Shepard, so therefore using N7 means Shepard's coming back?

And the retcon idea isn't based on anything at all.

Edit: not saying they couldn't be this stupid. Just saying that this argument is nonsense.

Modifié par AlanC9, 26 janvier 2014 - 07:29 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Galaxy-wide retcons expected. not concerned.

[NeonFlux117]

MageTarot wrote...

Good afternoon, all.

This was listed in "The Spy" column for the February 2014 issue of PC Gamer magazine. I didn't see it listed anywhere else in the forums so I thought I'd post it here. Not saying 'yea' or 'nay' on whether the Spy has it right but just thought I'd pass this along:

     "In any event, no game series has the power to shatter the collective dreams of millions of fervent fans quite like Mass Effect does at the moment. However you felt about the ending, the trilogy doesn't need a sequel -- but it'll get one, because nothing motivates creativity quite like a bag of money. Which isn't to say that the fourth Mass Effect game will be bad, necessarily. It's just that it will be surprising if it isn't. BioWare has to prove that the entire enterprise isn't pointless before they do anything else, and that isn't traditionally a position of strength. See, err, every other business-mandated sequel ever made.
     Details are starting to emerge. Rumor has it that substantial clues about the game's setting leaked out during private sessions at PAX. Revealed were two new types of aliens - a skeletal race with glowing eyes and a frilly neck, plus space golems that look a bit like Reapers - as well as beautiful hi-def shots of Asari, Salarians, Humans and Krogan running in Frostbite. That suggests that it's not going to be set during a previous galactic cycle -- although that was always unlikely, because BioWare'll want to have humans in it. 
     According to the rumors, BioWare led by asking the question "What does N7 mean to us?" This is primarily interesting as an example of branding at work. N7 was the designation of the class of special forces soldiers that Shepard belonged to, and over the course of the series it went from being a minor detail to a huge part of the game's iconography -- particularly when it came to multiplayer. If Electronic Arts and BioWare are unwilling to lose it as a symbol, that suggests that Shepard will still have a role to play. The Spy is calling it: Mass Effect 4 will be set after the events of the trilogy, and Shepard's legend will be represented by N7 logos plastered everywhere. Expect galaxy-spanning retcons to make sense of it all.
     There's also talk of explorable planets, land vehicles, and recreating a sense of strangeness, however, so there's still hope. The Spy wants to believe. But then he also wants to know where his pants are, and you can't always get what you want."

Feel free to post thoughts, concerns, and criticisms. Do you think the Spy is onto something? Or do you think he's on something?

For the sake of "speculation". Here goes.

If this is true, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were, then my belief of the old BioWare being completly and utterly destroyed by the rEAper overlords and the last great Mass Effect game being ME2, will have been proven verified and legit.

If this is what they're doing, then the only hope for the next game is......

Multiplayer.... And I did love the MP for ME3, but I highly suspected most BSN delta drones on this forum did not .

But... It ain't all bad. Frostbite 3.0+EA servers+BioWare "develelopers" never used it= Major bugs and major lulz.

And I'm always in it for the lulz.

Modifié par NeonFlux117, 26 janvier 2014 - 07:27 .

[Steelcan]

Ugh...retcons

[Mcfly616]

Lol "The Spy" is a moron. (No offense OP). All he did was take his own speculation of the so-called PAX fan survey and proceeded to state that they were legitimate rumors. Funny how the term "retcon" was never mentioned until this boob threw in his 2 cents

[Mcfly616]

Somehow "N7" and pics of two new species, officially translates to Sequel/Retcon....for The Spy, atleast.....yeah, I hope he wasn't trying to be taken seriously

[MageTarot]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Lol "The Spy" is a moron. (No offense OP). All he did was take his own speculation of the so-called PAX fan survey and proceeded to state that they were legitimate rumors. Funny how the term "retcon" was never mentioned until this boob threw in his 2 cents

No offense taken.  Like I said, I just threw it out there since it hadn't been mentioned. At this point everything is speculation. If anything, it will be interesting to see either how accurate/off the mark this is when the game goes live.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Are my eyes going bad or did someone use the dead meme "rEAper" in this thread?

[dorktainian]

who knows?

[ImaginaryMatter]

Retcons seem like a sure bet, they did it for ME2 and ME3; I don't see why this wouldn't be the case for ME4.

[BigEvil]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Are my eyes going bad or did someone use the dead meme "rEAper" in this thread?

Even dead memes can dream?

[AlexMBrennan]

plus space golems that look a bit like Reapers

a humanoid magically animated construct that looks like a jellyfish? A humanoid... Jellyfish?

Details are starting to emerge. Rumor has it that substantial clues about the game's setting leaked out during private sessions at PAX

If they consider "someone knows something" to be "details" then I don't want to hear their unfounded speculation.

That suggests that it's not going to be set during a previous galactic cycle -- although that was always unlikely, because BioWare'll want to have humans in it

Which just leaves a prequel, sequel or the reaper war shown from another POV... In other news, it won't be a Rhythm game tower defence football dating sim either.

If Electronic Arts and BioWare are unwilling to lose it as a symbol, that suggests that Shepard will still have a role to play

Well, since you claim N7 is most strongly associated with (shepard-free) multiplayer, it follows that the next game must feature Shepard. It couldn't be another clone with the serial numbers filed off like ME3 MP.

[dorktainian]

Shepards story is over isn't it?

If I were shep, i'd go into hiding as well. fame isnt everything it's cracked up to be...apparently.

[Dubozz]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Galaxy-wide retcons expected.

It is ineviatable. 

[TurianRebel212]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

MageTarot wrote...

Good afternoon, all.

This was listed in "The Spy" column for the February 2014 issue of PC Gamer magazine. I didn't see it listed anywhere else in the forums so I thought I'd post it here. Not saying 'yea' or 'nay' on whether the Spy has it right but just thought I'd pass this along:

     "In any event, no game series has the power to shatter the collective dreams of millions of fervent fans quite like Mass Effect does at the moment. However you felt about the ending, the trilogy doesn't need a sequel -- but it'll get one, because nothing motivates creativity quite like a bag of money. Which isn't to say that the fourth Mass Effect game will be bad, necessarily. It's just that it will be surprising if it isn't. BioWare has to prove that the entire enterprise isn't pointless before they do anything else, and that isn't traditionally a position of strength. See, err, every other business-mandated sequel ever made.
     Details are starting to emerge. Rumor has it that substantial clues about the game's setting leaked out during private sessions at PAX. Revealed were two new types of aliens - a skeletal race with glowing eyes and a frilly neck, plus space golems that look a bit like Reapers - as well as beautiful hi-def shots of Asari, Salarians, Humans and Krogan running in Frostbite. That suggests that it's not going to be set during a previous galactic cycle -- although that was always unlikely, because BioWare'll want to have humans in it. 
     According to the rumors, BioWare led by asking the question "What does N7 mean to us?" This is primarily interesting as an example of branding at work. N7 was the designation of the class of special forces soldiers that Shepard belonged to, and over the course of the series it went from being a minor detail to a huge part of the game's iconography -- particularly when it came to multiplayer. If Electronic Arts and BioWare are unwilling to lose it as a symbol, that suggests that Shepard will still have a role to play. The Spy is calling it: Mass Effect 4 will be set after the events of the trilogy, and Shepard's legend will be represented by N7 logos plastered everywhere. Expect galaxy-spanning retcons to make sense of it all.
     There's also talk of explorable planets, land vehicles, and recreating a sense of strangeness, however, so there's still hope. The Spy wants to believe. But then he also wants to know where his pants are, and you can't always get what you want."

Feel free to post thoughts, concerns, and criticisms. Do you think the Spy is onto something? Or do you think he's on something?

For the sake of "speculation". Here goes.

If this is true, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were, then my belief of the old BioWare being completly and utterly destroyed by the rEAper overlords and the last great Mass Effect game being ME2, will have been proven verified and legit.

If this is what they're doing, then the only hope for the next game is......

Multiplayer.... And I did love the MP for ME3, but I highly suspected most BSN delta drones on this forum did not .

But... It ain't all bad. Frostbite 3.0+EA servers+BioWare "develelopers" never used it= Major bugs and major lulz.

And I'm always in it for the lulz.

Ha. Classic you. Glad to see your still derpin' around here. 

Except..... ME3's MP was good and all, but it was such a bore. BORING. Gears does horde mode better. And Halo does co-op better. 

And yeah, it will be funny to watch BioWare try to figure out Frostbite.... Cause Dice did a really good job with it, lol. 

[shodiswe]

I don't expect Shepard to be comming back.
N7, that will likely be an interspecies elite group working for the alliance and the Citadel.
The next protagonist could be N7, or ex-N7 or he doesnt have to be N7 at all.
I guess we will have to wait and see what Bioware gives us.
I have a feeling they might make the N7 ops people more like Gray Wardens. Just no demon blood or such.

[GimmeDaGun]

There's bias and butthurt written all over this "spy's" writing.

[Zarathiel]

shodiswe wrote...

I don't expect Shepard to be comming back.
N7, that will likely be an interspecies elite group working for the alliance and the Citadel.
The next protagonist could be N7, or ex-N7 or he doesnt have to be N7 at all.
I guess we will have to wait and see what Bioware gives us.
I have a feeling they might make the N7 ops people more like Gray Wardens. Just no demon blood or such.

We already had that.

They're called Spectres.

[cap and gown]

I saw nothing in there that I haven't already seen here on the forum.

[MageTarot]

cap and gown wrote...

I saw nothing in there that I haven't already seen here on the forum.

As mentioned earlier, everything is speculation. I just found it intriguing that the writer of the column is (in his words) 'calling it'. He or she can't claim that what was written was misinterpreted or taken out of context. Wrong or not, it's kind of a ballsy move to make a statement like that considering there's been very little concrete information released.

[CronoDragoon]

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

Retcons seem like a sure bet, they did it for ME2 and ME3; I don't see why this wouldn't be the case for ME4.

If ME2-3 level retconning is all we get then I don't see the big deal.

[SwobyJ]

You choices will matter*.



*matter in the sense that the story is tailored for you, not in that choices will have direct cause and effect on a wide scale

[OdanUrr]

dorktainian wrote...

who knows?