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Would you want the love interests to be like DAO or DA2?


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AresKeith wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

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I kind of would like a romance where it is an extremely slow build, and you have to work for it.


I think that's Cassandra :P


Dammit, we have to have a male equivalent, now!


Dorian? or that mustache guy?


Hmmm, maybe that Warden...a doomed romance perhaps? He seems to be of an age where he might be nearing his Calling. That could an extremely pleasing romance, even though his years are finite.


I dunno about that, besides my opinion that him (and Varric) shouldn't be a romance option, that seems like something that couldn't be done right

Yeah, I know it would be difficult to pull off, but it would be awesome if they did it just right. But who does that leave us with...Iron Bull, Cullen (?), Dorian, and mustache guy (if he still exists).

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AresKeith wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I kind of would like a romance where it is an extremely slow build, and you have to work for it.


I think that's Cassandra :P


I'm hoping for Vivienne. But Cassandra might be okay, if she's even available (or interested). :D

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MevenSelas wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I kind of would like a romance where it is an extremely slow build, and you have to work for it.


I think that's Cassandra :P


I'm hoping for Vivienne. But Cassandra might be okay, if she's even available (or interested). :D


Idk about Vivienne. She just reminded me of a more motherly type to my party, kind of like Wynne was.

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I'm real interested to see where they take the romances in DA:I. I've seen all the arguments against them and they're perfectly valid, but for me personally, they add a more human touch to the game and how it develops, obviously depending on which characters and such though. Though I'd also be a fan of not even including any type of romance to the games, oh boy - that would be hell of a time on BSN.

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eluvianix wrote...

MevenSelas wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I kind of would like a romance where it is an extremely slow build, and you have to work for it.


I think that's Cassandra :P


I'm hoping for Vivienne. But Cassandra might be okay, if she's even available (or interested). :D


Idk about Vivienne. She just reminded me of a more motherly type to my party, kind of like Wynne was.


I don't think Vivienne is that old really. And that's pretty much how I picture the Grey Warden dude: a Father-figure or mentor type character to the Inquisitor (which plays a part into why I think he shouldn't be a romance option)

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spirosz wrote...

I'm real interested to see where they take the romances in DA:I. I've seen all the arguments against them and they're perfectly valid, but for me personally, they add a more human touch to the game and how it develops, obviously depending on which characters and such though. Though I'd also be a fan of not even including any type of romance to the games, oh boy - that would be hell of a time on BSN.


The powerful of friendship 

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AresKeith wrote...

I don't think Vivienne is that old really. And that's pretty much how I picture the Grey Warden dude: a Father-figure or mentor type character (which plays a part into why I think he shouldn't be a romance option)


For Vivienne, just the way she talked and bantered with Cassandra in the brief PAX demon struck me as the strong, motherly type. She actually reminded me a lot of my own mom. As for the Grey Warden, I could honestly care less about his age. A more mature daddy type romance lol. As an older character, and a Warden to boot, I feel like he could have a more mature view on a relationship, which I would love to explore.

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eluvianix wrote...

MevenSelas wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I kind of would like a romance where it is an extremely slow build, and you have to work for it.


I think that's Cassandra :P


I'm hoping for Vivienne. But Cassandra might be okay, if she's even available (or interested). :D


Idk about Vivienne. She just reminded me of a more motherly type to my party, kind of like Wynne was.


I get a "Morrigan crossed with Wynne" vibe myself, which I like. :D

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spirosz wrote...

I'm real interested to see where they take the romances in DA:I. I've seen all the arguments against them and they're perfectly valid, but for me personally, they add a more human touch to the game and how it develops, obviously depending on which characters and such though. Though I'd also be a fan of not even including any type of romance to the games, oh boy - that would be hell of a time on BSN.


I honestly wouldn't mind if they took the romances out, although I certainly do like them in Bioware's games. They deepen the relationships between me and party members, something which I really like.

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I get a "Morrigan crossed with Wynne" vibe myself, which I like. :D

I could easily see her threatening my chosen LI with bodily harm should they break my heart.
:P

Modifié par eluvianix, 28 janvier 2014 - 02:22 .


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eluvianix wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

I don't think Vivienne is that old really. And that's pretty much how I picture the Grey Warden dude: a Father-figure or mentor type character (which plays a part into why I think he shouldn't be a romance option)


For Vivienne, just the way she talked and bantered with Cassandra in the brief PAX demon struck me as the strong, motherly type. She actually reminded me a lot of my own mom.


Well she IS Orlesian lol :P

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AresKeith wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

I don't think Vivienne is that old really. And that's pretty much how I picture the Grey Warden dude: a Father-figure or mentor type character (which plays a part into why I think he shouldn't be a romance option)


For Vivienne, just the way she talked and bantered with Cassandra in the brief PAX demon struck me as the strong, motherly type. She actually reminded me a lot of my own mom.


Well she IS Orlesian lol :P

Wait, what? You lost me there.

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I was talking about how people treat transgenders, not sex change treatments.

Oh, right. I'll readjust.

I still disagree with your assumption though, and will stick to mine.

I understand. Though it's not like I believe they'd be treated badly or differently: I just think we can't say for sure they wouldn't.

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eluvianix wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

I don't think Vivienne is that old really. And that's pretty much how I picture the Grey Warden dude: a Father-figure or mentor type character (which plays a part into why I think he shouldn't be a romance option)


For Vivienne, just the way she talked and bantered with Cassandra in the brief PAX demon struck me as the strong, motherly type. She actually reminded me a lot of my own mom.


Well she IS Orlesian lol :P

Wait, what? You lost me there.


Orlesian women act motherly :P

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Thomas Andresen wrote...

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@Veruin, indeed. Considering she was a high ranked magister of the Imperium, clearly no one really cared about it.

Indeed. Though it might be different in Andrastian society. 

That's utter crap.

In a society that isn't prejudiced about sexualities, suddenly you expect them to be prejudiced about one particular brand?

I haven't heard of those characters in DA before. I take it they're from other games or did I simply miss references/appearances to/by them?

Serendipity is a prostitute in the Blooming Rose in Kirkwall. Maevaris is a character from Gaider's comic series.


OK, now the names ring a bell (having some background on them helps). My PCs have seen Serendipity in the Blooming Rose, but until now I never realized Maevaris was transgender. I thought the character was a woman, period. I had to go back and re-read "Until We Sleep," and even then there's no words out and out saying Maevaris is transgender ... just that solitary image of her hanging from a dungeon's wall after being tortured.

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eluvianix wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

I don't think Vivienne is that old really. And that's pretty much how I picture the Grey Warden dude: a Father-figure or mentor type character (which plays a part into why I think he shouldn't be a romance option)


For Vivienne, just the way she talked and bantered with Cassandra in the brief PAX demon struck me as the strong, motherly type. She actually reminded me a lot of my own mom. As for the Grey Warden, I could honestly care less about his age. A more mature daddy type romance lol. As an older character, and a Warden to boot, I feel like he could have a more mature view on a relationship, which I would love to explore.


Is this supposed to be the Grey Warden, or not!? If so, total DILF. 

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Is this supposed to be the Grey Warden, or not!? If so, total DILF.

Yup...he's so hot. :wub:
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No question... DAO had superior romances IMO

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eluvianix wrote...

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Is this supposed to be the Grey Warden, or not!? If so, total DILF.

Yup...he's so hot. :wub:
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Please, please let him be an LI. :wub:

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DA:O love interest personalities were more interesting and dynamic. Not the usual brooding Byronic anti-hero (Anders and Fenris) or the usual Good Girl/Bad Girl dichotomy (Merrill and Isabela). Alistair and Zevran were witty, chipper, and fun to be around. Leliana and Morrigan kind of subverted the good girl/bad girl dichotomy because the "good girl" Leliana had a bad girl past and still had some bad girl tendencies in her (which you can help to expand) and Morrigan is an innocent, for all her bravado.

I question every companion conveniently being bisexual like in DA2, but on the other hand I would rather be fair to gay and lesbian gamers by letting them have at least two romance options just like straight and bi players. If every or most companions are bi too, I'd rather it be discussed and given at least some in-story acknowledgement and/or explanation.

Maybe one companion was sheltered from love and/or sex growing up and so never had to question his/her orientation until meeting the player. Maybe another is demisexual--not sexually attracted to anyone unless in romantic love. Maybe another has a bit of bisexuality but doesn't realize it until getting to know and/or the same-sex player suggests getting together, a bit like how ME's Garrus never considered dating out of species until Shepard suggested it... though this would need to be handled with due delicacy, of course.

I don't know, something besides just "PC makes pass at companion(s), all companions reciprocate no matter what and never so much as mention previous preferences or question being hit on or falling for someone of the same gender." It wouldn't be the end of the game, but that's the only thing I would want to do differently if all or mostly same-sex romanceable companions returned.

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I see no downside to playersexual love interests. None at all.


The downside is that it makes the companion characters feel a little less real. Their personalities and interests are now being issued to them by the player character rather being determined by those characters themselves.

Less real to whom?

The player?  The player knows they aren't real.  This can't be a real objection.

The PC?  The PC doesn't ever see more than one playthrough, so the PC can't ever know that they're playersexual.

To use an example, imagine for a moment if characters had no set opinion on the Mage-Templar conflict until the player character told them which way to lean. These characters would be pro-Mage if the player character was pro-Mage, pro-Templar if the player character is pro-Templar. Its kind of the same thing.

That's entirely different.  In this case, it's the player's character that is causing the change in behaviour.  That would make the characters less real.

But playersexual romances are caused not by the player's character's choices, but by the player's choices directly.  The player doesn't even exist within the game world.  How can the characters in the game be aware that the player is doing anything?

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

To use an example, imagine for a moment if characters had no set opinion on the Mage-Templar conflict until the player character told them which way to lean. These characters would be pro-Mage if the player character was pro-Mage, pro-Templar if the player character is pro-Templar. Its kind of the same thing.

That's entirely different.  In this case, it's the player's character that is causing the change in behaviour.  That would make the characters less real.

But playersexual romances are caused not by the player's character's choices, but by the player's choices directly.  The player doesn't even exist within the game world.  How can the characters in the game be aware that the player is doing anything?


How is that not the same thing?  It is, in  fact, exactly the same thing.  It is the player determining aspects of the NPCs.

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Quill74Pen wrote...

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Personality wise I'd say DAO, cause the romances in DA2 sucked.


Aw, c'mon. Stop being a sourpuss just because Isabela gave your PC herpes! ;)


Ehhh yeah she was skanky and a selfish karma houndini but she was still the best romance outta DA2.


Which isn't saying much. <_<


Raven489 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Raven489 wrote...

Is this supposed to be the Grey Warden, or not!? If so, total DILF.

Yup...he's so hot. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]
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Please, please let him be an LI. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]


Ooo yes indeed. We haven't had a good buff bearded manly-man to romance yet.

Modifié par KiwiQuiche, 28 janvier 2014 - 07:09 .


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KiwiQuiche wrote...

Raven489 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Raven489 wrote...

Is this supposed to be the Grey Warden, or not!? If so, total DILF.

Yup...he's so hot. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]
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Please, please let him be an LI. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]


Ooo yes indeed. We haven't had a good buff bearded manly-man to romance yet.


Cuz they're too much man for you :devil:

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He appears to be quitting the Wardens, too. Perhaps just after shutting down a Grey Warden sanctioned hanging?

Such a rebel! *swoooooooooon*