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[Ridwan]

Like Origins. Making the companions playersexual is just stupid and belittles their personality.

[ames4u]

Han Shot First wrote...

It was already confirmed by Gaider that all potential love interests will be bisexual, or at least, Inquisitorsexual.

Personally I think Mass Effect 3 did it better. Some characters were straight, some gay, and some bisexual just like the real world. Of course going that route would mean that for many player characters there are always going to be some NPCs who are unavailable as potential LIs from the start, due to the player character's orientation. But so what? Must every potential LI be available for every single player character, regardless of background or interests, from the start?

Could you link to this? Because I don't recall any info about this.

[Jaison1986]

I would rather have Origins type of romance. Were an character orientation is defined by their personality, not by the personal preferences of the player. It's like having Cullen as an LI in Inquisition. In Origins, it's pretty obvious he is straight, as he have no interest whatsover for an male Warden, and then, suddenly in Inquisition he conveniently changes to bi just to satisfy all the players tastes.

[Kidd]

Jaison1986 wrote...

I would rather have Origins type of romance. Were an character orientation is defined by their personality, not by the personal preferences of the player. It's like having Cullen as an LI in Inquisition. In Origins, it's pretty obvious he is straight, as he have no interest whatsover for an male Warden, and then, suddenly in Inquisition he conveniently changes to bi just to satisfy all the players tastes.

Can we please stop assuming so much about people? Cullen also didn't show any interest in warriors, is Cullen only interested in people with magic? Does he have a strict no-cat policy since Fem!Amell doesn't have a cat?

[TheRevanchist]

Gregolian wrote...

Do we have to have another one of these?

I thought they said the romance scenes were going towards what ME1 did and that the LIs would be romancable by any player (something that I will admit I somewhat disagree with....)

And before people jump on me calling me a bigot let me just say.... the reason I disagree with every LI being romancable by every type of player character is this. Personal taste on partners and such adds a backstory to the character. Say a LI wouldn't want to be romanced by a dwarf or elf... there's another fold in there. Say a LI is interested in men only like Morrigan was or women only like Alistair was it adds a unique flavor.

The fact that every LI is romancable by any player character means I could potentailly play through as a male human mage, female human rogue, male elf rogue, and a male dwarf warrior and I'll romance the same blasted person each time.

This, this +1 billion. I HATED the Hawkesexual nature of every LI in DA2, it is not believable at all. People have preferences, they have tastes, people aren't going to change themselves because your important. I hate this idea of the game catering so completely to the players, it ruins the characters and the world around them because everyone and everything bows down to your godly awesomeness. This kind of crap is so boring and I hope to god they avoid it this time around.

[Ultim Asari]

The DA2 romances were short, abrupt, and lame...

[wright1978]

Ultim Asari wrote...

The DA2 romances were short, abrupt, and lame...

Personally i disagree, i thought the DA2 romances were better than those in Origins.

[CrabbyCrackers]

i like that dao wasn't player sexual, but i think da2 li felt more alive personality wise, but i liked that i got to talk more to dao li. hm i like certain things about them both.

[luckycooky]

like Dao i donkt like that everyone in party is a pink lover

[Tarek]

more like DA:O with more gay men

[Zack_Nero]

Again with the romance thread. Okay here is my input....again. I would prefer an ME1 where they did it without clothes for realism, no one does it in there undergarments or shower in them. And I like the DA2 approach where it could be a friendship or rivalry but it needs to be more complex. And am certain to be typing this in again around Valentines Day. Just saying.

[Celtic Latino]

Personality wise I'd like to say neither and say we have LIs like Inquisition.

If it's only four love interests, it's probably for the better they all be available to both genders so everyone can have at the very least two to choose from. If more, I'd like to see all orientations represented (1 straight male, 1 straight female, 1 bi male, 1 bi female, 1 gay male, 1 lesbian). Everyone would still get at the very least 2 available love interests. Plus, not every LI has to be a companion necessarily, perhaps at least 2 of the LIs can be NPCs.

Side note- It would cause a lot of whining and fan-rage, but I'd actually like it if some characters rejected Inqusitors in certain cases while being okay with others. Wouldn't mind some companions having a preference (only romances humans/elves, only prefers men/women, wouldn't romance a mage/would ONLY romance a mage) either. I really don't like all characters being playersexual as it is (one of my peeves regarding Mass Effect...), and I think having a significant reason (elf would never be with a human after enduring so much, for example) would make that companion compelling. Doesn't have to apply to ALL companions/potential LIs, as some can be more open minded or convinced than others, but others don't waver on their stance or preferences. 

Modifié par Celtic Latino, 27 janvier 2014 - 02:05 .

[CybAnt1]

BTW, I think they are going all-playersexual again, but remember that once again race as well as gender are going to be variables.

It could be that there are companions who are going to be bi but only like humans. Or only like humans and elves, but not dwarves and small-q qunari. Or maybe everything but qunari.

... the howling at BSN could reach deafening if they do this, which is why I think they won't.

It would be really interesting if class got into it, too! But they've never gone there. Although they certainly could, you could see why Anders or Merrill might prefer a mage over others, and Isabela would prefer a rogue.

Look, this is a Bioware game, every player has to get their choice of romancing the good boy/girl (naive, virginal, innocent, etc.) or the bad boy/girl ('hooker with heart of gold"). Every player has to have those 2 choices between the two playersexual choices. It's their formula, and they're sticking to it.

[chuckwells62]

I thought that the Isabela and Merrill romances were well done regardless of which gender your Hawke was. I wooed Anders and Fenris as well, just to experience each possible relationship, again regardless of which gender my Hawke happened to be at such times; and even tried out the chaste love offered by Sebastion.

Isabela and/or Merrill was the best route to take in DA2!

ps: I also loved up on all of the Origins possibilities and out of those, Morrigan was my fave!

Modifié par chuckwells62, 27 janvier 2014 - 03:01 .

[Kidd]

Celtic Latino wrote...

Side note- It would cause a lot of whining and fan-rage, but I'd actually like it if some characters rejected Inqusitors in certain cases while being okay with others. Wouldn't mind some companions having a preference (only romances humans/elves, only prefers men/women, wouldn't romance a mage/would ONLY romance a mage) either. I really don't like all characters being playersexual as it is (one of my peeves regarding Mass Effect...), and I think having a significant reason (elf would never be with a human after enduring so much, for example) would make that companion compelling. Doesn't have to apply to ALL companions/potential LIs, as some can be more open minded or convinced than others, but others don't waver on their stance or preferences. 

I'm all for picky companions as long as they have subjective orientations. Perhaps Varric doesn't feel attracted to all the giants towering over him for instance and would prefer somebody on his own wavelength =)

[Spectre slayer]

They aren't going the all bi route, if anything what they're doing is closer to mass effect 3 or DAO or a mix of both with various sexualites and there will be some that ping the the dar in the words of the devs and without going into to spoiler territory they hinted at one character maybe or will be struggling to accept their sexuality and possibly be in the closet.

They went into a lot of detail in the podcast I mentioned this was near the 31 minute mark and they talked about in between the 45-51 minute mark which lines up with the stuff Gaider has been saying which if they have the resources then they will do various ones and that he doesn't want to make them sexually available to the player and what perry said which was I wouldn't say everyone can romance everyone but they do have a type which was restated in that podcast.


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Sometimes it’s tempting. I can easily imagine a time when the romances in Inquisition are revealed (whether that will be before or after release, I have no idea).

There will be an inevitable reaction from people who are disappointed they couldn’t romance someone with their character of choice, and some of them will rant at length as to how they were only deprived of said romance because of some agenda.

We took away that romance because we’re mean, or because we’re boring and couldn’t we see that the romance they wanted would be so much more interesting? And that romance we actually put in is not only terrible but is homophobic/biphobic/racist/pedophilia/etc., which their romance pairing would not be


David Gaider tumblr.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 27 janvier 2014 - 04:20 .

[Toasted Llama]

Oh boy, this thread. It's a lot more tame than the tumblr discussions though.

Anyway:
For me, it really dedends on the amout of romances available:

if there are only 4 romances available, I'd say make them all bisexual, simply because that will give everyone an equal and decent amount of options.

But if there are more romances available (at least 6), I would prefer romances with unique sexualities. This is simply because I personally believe someone's sexuality is also part of one's personality and personal preferences. It might sound stupid, because that's the way you are born, but you are also born with a set personality and set preferences. Being attracted to on gender (or both) is basically the same as preferring a certain color. When you're asked why, you can't really answer, because that's just who you are.

Making everyone the same sexuality (whether this be bisexual,straight or gay) feels like the characters are flattened.

And I know a lot people want to play the game in the way they want to play it, but if different sexualities are handled correctly, you wouldn't even know without meta-gaming if someone was even romance-able by anyone or not. And yes I know this game is about choices and you wanted to make the perfect story because you can't do that in real life blah blah blah, in the end, the game simply offers you a bunch of choices you can choose from and you cannot choose outside of that. If you really wanted complete freedom and make your own perfect story, you should've written a book.

[Kidd]

Spectre slayer wrote...

they hinted at one character will be struggling to accept their sexuality and be in the closet.

First I hear of that. And that'd be a character arc I'd most likely prefer not to see as well. Not only is it pretty standard fare to make it a big point that a character is of a certain orientation and I've thought BioWare to be above that sort of characterisation; it's also pretty odd in a world that doesn't have a history with the Catholic church of olde.

But if it happens, then I guess it happens.

[mikeymoonshine]

This again. Oh dear :/

I would rather the sexuality depends on the character but I am not sure why that has to mean 2 straight and 2 bi. How is that any more plausible than them all being bi? Why can't one of them be gay? It wouldn't be fair and equal but then neither is any option really.

What about racial preferences? Varric isn't into humans after all and I dunno what they are gonna do about the Qunari.

I liked ME's way of doing it tbh, lots of different romances, some bi some, straight and some gay ect.

Modifié par mikeymoonshine, 27 janvier 2014 - 03:58 .

[sevalaricgirl]

What I'd prefer is to have them like ME3, Kaidan and Ashley, where if you were a female you'd never know that Kaidan was bi/gay. Honestly, if you didn't know Anders in DA2 was bi then you weren't paying attention. As all of my characters are straight, I'd like to have the feeling that I'm hitting on a straight guy.

[CybAnt1]

sevalaricgirl wrote...
Honestly, if you didn't know Anders in DA2 was bi then you weren't paying attention.  

The other thread got locked, but come on.

Right ear earring. 
http://www.urbandict...ht Earring Rule

'Nuff said. 

Modifié par CybAnt1, 27 janvier 2014 - 04:10 .

[Hellion Rex]

If they go the all Bi route, I would be entirely happy. In fact, I would prefer that. But if not that, I could work with the ME3 approach, provided they can at least give two options to everyone.

[Hellion Rex]

CybAnt1 wrote...

sevalaricgirl wrote...
Honestly, if you didn't know Anders in DA2 was bi then you weren't paying attention.  

The other thread got locked, but come on.

Right ear earring. 
http://www.urbandict...ht Earring Rule

'Nuff said.

Really? You've got to be kidding me.
<_<

[Iakus]

rasloveszev wrote...

 DAO: 1 straight male, 1 straight female, 1 bi male, 1 bi female
DA2: 2 bi males and 2 bi females

Would you want more love interests? (Even though they might not do that)

Would you want the sex scenes back?

I'd prefer a third option, which somewhat resembles DAO

2 straight, 2 bi, 2 gay characters.  One of each gender

So yeah, more LI options

I'm fine with fade to black.

[The Elder King]

sevalaricgirl wrote...

What I'd prefer is to have them like ME3, Kaidan and Ashley, where if you were a female you'd never know that Kaidan was bi/gay. Honestly, if you didn't know Anders in DA2 was bi then you weren't paying attention. As all of my characters are straight, I'd like to have the feeling that I'm hitting on a straight guy.

You actually don't know that Anders is bisexual if Hawke is female, because the only dialogue where he talked about romance without starting the romance path (the first one) is different based on your character's gender, and with female Hawke he seems to consider Karl a friend, not a lover.