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Installed the BG series on my new desktop. Patched it and modded it according to the GOG mod guide, including TUTU. When I talk to any NPC there is just a blank box for where the dialoge should be. Any help in resolving this would be appreciated. 

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Can you post your Weidu log?
Did you install to the Program Files location?
Did you have any other programmes (like browsers) running while you were installing?

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 I did not install to Program Files, and there were no other windows open upon installing. Here is my WeiDU log.

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name [ : Version]~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // BG2 Fixpack - Core Fixes: v10~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #1000 // BG2 Fixpack - Game Text Update -> GTU Light (by Wisp): v10~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // BETA Core Fixes (please check the readme!): v10~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #100 // Party Gets XP for Sending Keldorn to Reconcile With Maria: v10~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #101 // Improved Spell Animations: v10~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #104 // Ghreyfain's Holy Symbol Fixes: v10~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #106 // Giants Receive Penalties When Attacking Halflings,   Dwarves, and Gnomes: v10~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #107 // Remove Dual-Classing Restriction from Archers   and Stalkers: v10~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #109 // Corrected Summoned Demon Behavior: v10~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #110 // Additional Script Fixes: v10~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #111 // Bard Song Fixes: v10~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #112 // Wizard Slayers Cause Miscast Magic on Ranged Attacks: v10~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #113 // Additional Alignment Fixes: v10~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #114 // Change Free Action to Protect Against Stun: v10~SETUP-BGT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Core: 1.18 (28 Apr 13)~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ice Island Level Two Restoration: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Mysterious Vial: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Additional Elminster Encounter: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // Angelo Notices Shar-teel: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Finishable Kagain Caravan Quest: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // Coran and the Wyverns: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Kivan and Tazok: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Branwen and Tranzig: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Safana the Flirt: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Appropriate Albert and Rufie Reward: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Place Entar Silvershield in His Home: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Scar and the Sashenstar's Daughter: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Quoningar, the Cleric: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Shilo Chen and the Ogre-Magi: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #14 // Edie, the Merchant League Applicant: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #15 // Flaming Fist Mercenary Reinforcements: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Creature Corrections: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Creature Restorations: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Creature Name Restorations: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Minor Dialogue Restorations: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Audio Restorations: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Store, Tavern and Inn Fixes and Restorations: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Item Corrections and Restorations: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #23 // Area Corrections and Restorations: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Permanent Corpses: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #26 // The Original Saga Music Playlist Corrections: v13_120121~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #27 // Sarevok's Diary Corrections: v13_120121~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Kidnapping of Boo by Cliffette: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Suna Seni/Valygar Relationship: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Kalah and What He Was Promised: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Gorje Hilldark and the Extended Illithium Quest: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // The Pai'Na/Spider's Bane Quest: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Restored Crooked Crane Inn: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Restored Encounters: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Artemis Entreri in Bodhi's Lair: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Corrected "Xzar's Creations": v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Restored Hell Minions, by SimDing0: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Item Restorations: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #15 // NPC Portrait Restorations: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Corrected BAMs and Scripts: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Corrected Character Names and Biographies: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Restored Minor Dialogs: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Restored Bhaalspawn Powers, by David Gaider: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Extended ToB Item Descriptions: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Throne of Bhaal Minor Restorations: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Justifier Kit: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #23 // Feralan Kit: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Sarevok's Remorse: v24~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #25 // The Murder of Acton Balthis, by Kulyok: v24~SETUP-BGTMUSIC.TP2~ #0 #1 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Music -> Hybrid Baldur's Gate/Shadows of Amn/Throne of Bhaal Music~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #20 // Change Imoen's Avatar to Mage: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #40 // Change Viconia's Skin Color to Dark Blue: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #60 // Weapon Animation Tweaks: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #70 // Icewind Dale Casting Graphics (Andyr): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #100 // Commoners Use Drab Colors: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #110 // Icon Improvements: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #120 // Change Avatar When Wearing Robes or Armor (Galactygon): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #130 // Force All Dialogue to Pause Game: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #140 // Fix Boo's Squeak: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1010 // More Interjections: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1020 // Alter HP Triggers for NPC Wounded Dialogues: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1080 // Add Bags of Holding: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1090 // Exotic Item Pack: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1120 // Stores Sell Higher Stacks of Items: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1130 // Reputation Resets in BG2 (BGT Only): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1150 // Shapeshifter Rebalancing: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1160 // Multiple Strongholds (Baldurdash) -> No Restrictions (Baldurdash): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1170 // Bonus Merchants (Baldurdash): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1180 // Female Edwina: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1220 // Allow Cromwell to Upgrade Watcher's Keep Items: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2060 // Weapon Styles for All: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2090 // Change Experience Point Cap -> Remove Experience Cap: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2140 // Expanded Dual-Class Options: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2151 // Wear Multiple Protection Items -> No Restrictions: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2160 // Alter Weapon Proficiency System -> Rebalanced Weapon Proficiencies: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2170 // Cast Spells from Scrolls (and Other Items)  at Character Level: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2200 // Multi-Class Grandmastery (Weimer): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2210 // True Grandmastery (Baldurdash): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2240 // Un-Nerfed THAC0 Table: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2250 // Un-Nerfed Sorcerer Spell Progression Table: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2260 // Alter Mage Spell Progression Table -> Un-Nerfed Table (Blucher): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2270 // Alter Bard Spell Progression Table -> Un-Nerfed Table (Blucher): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2280 // Alter Cleric Spell Progression Table -> Un-Nerfed Table (Blucher): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2290 // Alter Druid Spell and Level Progression Tables -> No Level Progression Changes, Un-Nerfed Druid Spell Table Only (Blucher): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2300 // Triple-Class HLA Tables: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2312 // Add Save Penalties for Spells Cast by High-Level Casters (BETA) -> Arcane & Divine Magic: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2320 // Trap Cap Removal (Ardanis/GeN1e): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2330 // Remove Delay for Magical Traps (Ardanis/GeN1e): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3000 // Higher HP on Level Up -> Maximum: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3012 // Maximum HP for NPCs (the bigg) -> For Party-Joinable NPCs Only: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3031 // Easy Spell Learning -> 100% Learn Spells and No Maximum Cap: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3040 // Make Bags of Holding Bottomless: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3060 // Remove "You Must Gather Your Party..." Sound (Weimer): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3070 // Change Effect of Reputation on Store Prices -> Low Reputation Store Discount (Sabre): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3080 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3100 // Unlimited Potion Stacking: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3110 // Unlimited Scroll Stacking: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3121 // Happy Patch (Party NPCs do not complain about reputation) -> NPCs Can Be Angry About Reputation but Never Leave (Salk): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3123 // NPCs Don't Fight: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3150 // Turn Off The Hideous Cloak-of-Mirroring, Spell-Trap, and Physical Mirror Animations: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3160 // Keep Drizzt's Loot, Disable Malchor Harpell: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3170 // No Drow Avatars On Party In Underdark: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3183 // Romance Cheats: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3190 // Rest Anywhere (Japheth): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3200 // Sellable Items (Icelus): v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3220 // Sensible Entrance Points: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4000 // Adjust Evil joinable NPC reaction rolls: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4010 // Improved Fate Spirit Summoning: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4020 // ToB-Style NPCs: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4031 // Consistent Stats: Edwin -> Use BG2 Values: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4041 // Consistent Stats: Jaheira -> Use BG2 Values: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4061 // Consistent Stats: Minsc -> Use BG2 Values: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4071 // Consistent Stats: Viconia -> Use BG2 Values: v14~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4100 // Change Korgan to Neutral Evil: v14~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Pocket Plane Banter Pack for BG2: Shadows of Amn: V14~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Install SOA Banter Accelerator script? (Increases the frequency of interparty banter): V14~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Pocket Plane Banter Pack for BG2: Throne of Bhaal: V14~SETUP-BANTERPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Install TOB Banter Accelerator script? (Increases the frequency of interparty banter): V14~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Nythrun's Level 1 NPCs: List party-joinable NPCs (required to install any NPC components): v1.9~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #4 // Joinable NPCs more closely match the player character's experience -> On initial joining and rejoining: v1.9~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #55 // Dudleyfix for BG1 NPCs: v1.9~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #60 // Fix BG1 NPC spells and innate abilities: v1.9~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #100 // Update game references to NPC classes/kits: v1.9~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #1227 // Khalid: v1.9~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #1212 // Minsc: v1.9~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #1229 // Montaron: v1.9~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #1234 // Tiax: v1.9~LEVEL1NPCS/LEVEL1NPCS.TP2~ #0 #1215 // Viconia De'Vir: v1.9

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You said originally you had installed Tutu, but your log shows BGT. I'm not sure if it's possible that you tried installing any specific components of mods for Tutu - if so that could have caused a problem.

The installation order looks OK and most of the mods are pretty stable and standard. I think the exception is Level1NPCs, which can cause problems. As this is the last mod installed you could try uninstalling that and seeing if the game works OK. If so you could then experiment with particular components to see what the problem is - the mod has difficulty in changing characters to certain classes, so may work with different class choices.

I assume it is the GOG versions of the games you've installed as you referred to using their installation order. If they're not that version you will have other problems with your setup (either needing to put in updates or having the wrong mods).

If none of that helps then I would suspect a problem with the original installation. It is possible to have programmes running that would interfere without having other windows open. To avoid that possibility you could install after starting windows in safe mode.

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I suppose BGT isn't Tutu then. I always assumed it was. I'll try uninstalling level1npcs to see if it works.

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Uninstalled Level1NPC. Now I have the issue of "Name appears busy."

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That happens sometimes by design, but if the game is doing it all the time that probably reflects a failure of the original installation. Is your installation from GOG? Have you applied any patches to it before mods?

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Only BG1 is from GOG. BG2 and TOB are from disc. The only patch I applied was the TOB patch I believe.

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There are slight differences in the way information is set out in the GOG set-up. While that wouldn't cause a problem playing as separate games, asking the BGT mod to marry together 2 different versions of the game might have caused a problem.

Which ToB patch did you use?

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TOB patch v. 26498. I looked at my Weidu file on my laptop where I also have the game installed. It's also a disc installing of BG2 and TOB with a GOG version of BG1. The difference is on that one, I have EasyTutu installed where on my desktop it's BGT. Would this potentially be the problem?

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There are 2 versions of the TOB patch - called something like English and European - you need to make sure you've got the right one.

Tutu could be a different issue, yes. That is just BG1, but borrowing parts of the BG2 engine to change gameplay. BGT joins BG1 and BG2 into a single game and is therefore likely to be more sensitive to not finding data in the place it expects.

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I bought the BG2 and ToB discs at a walmart in the US years ago, so I think it's the English one.

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It may take a little while for you to work out what is happening.

I'd do 5 steps for BGT (assuming your BG1 is unpatched, unmodded and not in an equivalent protected location that adds a "compatibility" icon when viewing in Windows Explorer). If patched, modded or in a protected location I'd re-install that too, to something like c:\\games.

1 Uninstall BG2. Manually remove any folders that remain afterwards.
2 Start a new BG1 game. Check dialogue. Save as per BGT instructions.
3 Install SoA, ToB and patch to c:\\games. Start a new game. Check dialogue. Save as per BGT instructions.
4 Install BG2 Fixpack then BGT onto BG2. Start a new game. Check dialogue.
5 Install the other mods. Check the dialogue after each.

If step 4 fails I'd assume the mix of GOG and disk is a bad idea. The two options then are to buy BG2 from GOG or to forget about BGT and use EasyTutu and BG2.

If step 5 fails I'd probably go through the offending mod components to identify a likely cause. Uninstall the mod and see if problem goes away. Swear loudly and uninstall BG2 if the problem persists so you can return to step 3 for another install without the component you think is at fault.

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Haha, thanks for the help and advice. I'll give those steps a try this weekend when I have a break from homework.

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Seems to have worked so far. Not sure what was done different but I'm glad it worked. Thanks guys for helping.

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Sometimes if characters don't talk to you, closing the game and restarting sometimes works. I have that problem with my current set up. Vanilla plus DSoSC. It's a pain, but I'm enjoying the set up at the moment.