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[SporkFu]

The reaper corpse on Tuchanka is buried deep, and Liara tells Glyph to warn everyone to not even attempt to find it. On Rannoch, after Shepard's conversation with it, the reaper corpse is just kinda left there in a heap, and not mentioned again. What becomes of it?

[Excella Gionne]

Don't know, but I'm sure the Quarians will be messin' around with it....

[SwobyJ]

Basic stuff:

-Tuchaka one is a corpse
-Rannoch one is a corpse

In Destroy headcanon they are shipped off. In Control or Synthesis, maybe they're reconstructed.

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There's an interesting pattern to the Reaper DESTROYers though.

-We see the kid in Vancouver
-We see the Destroyer kill the kid
...
-We have a dream of the kid
-We go to Tuchanka
-We see and fight a Destroyer
...
-We have a dream of the kid
-We go to Rannoch
-We see and fight a Destroyer
...
-We have a dream of the kid
-We go to London
-We see and fight a Destroyer
....
-We... meet the kid?

Maybe it doesn't matter what happened to the Destroyers.

Modifié par SwobyJ, 27 janvier 2014 - 05:59 .

[X Equestris]

I always figured that thre Reaper corpses were rendered inert in destroy, so I doubt it's any big problem there. Not sure about the other endings, though. You could always destroy it from orbit if necessary. Overall, I don't think it will be a big deal for quarian resettlement or anything.

[shodiswe]

There are obviously more Reaper Destroyers than there are Dreadnaughts. Seeing as there might be thousands of Dreadnaughts and tens of thousands of Destroyers the likelyhood of comming across a destroyer or several seems fairly high.

We come across both destroyers and Dreadnaughts but the Destroyers are the only ones Shepard is actualy trying to fight on the ground in ME3.

[shodiswe]

Even if they go inert the Quarians could play around with the technology and create indoctrination like the one used by Cerberus.

Even if the main Quarian or Geth faction wouldn't use it, some kind of terrorist or criminal faction might.

Apparently both Quarians and Geth can have exiled criminals. Though we have to remember that there will be reaper junk and remains all over the galaxy, every species and all scum of the galaxy will have access to it.

I have a feeling that all that Reapertech will have devastating effects on the galaxy if it isn't brought under control or distributed and applied in a responsible manner.

It's like leaving nuklear weapons in the hands of cavemen, children or animals.

Modifié par shodiswe, 27 janvier 2014 - 11:26 .

[shodiswe]

This makes me think Destroy as an option is an even greater threat to galactic survial than I had even considered earlier.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Hmmm... this makes me think the Destroy option would be the absolute most interesting to make a story about.

[thehomeworld]

Slowly indoctrinates everything within a 100 mile radius of its corpse we all know that the reaper tech even if dead is still broadcasting no matter how much dirt you want to throw onto.

[Br3admax]

Indoctrination is not possible without the nanites, the little Reaper AIs that control everything from husks to the Illusive Man. Destroy makes study of the Reapers safer than it could ever possibly be in any other setting.

[Obadiah]

I'd guess they're damaged beyond repair. Maybe they are researched or something. In Leviathan, Dr. Bryson seemed to know how to shield against indoctrination from the Sovereign wreckage. Maybe the corpses can be safely studied?

[Br3admax]

And again, after Destroy, nothing can indoctrinate, and Destroy is really the only setting where they need to be researched anyway.

[TheMyron]

I think the derelict Reaper over the Brown Dwarf was only able to indoctrinate because it was technically still "alive", only "comatose".

Modifié par TheMyron, 28 janvier 2014 - 05:59 .

[TheN7Penguin]

shodiswe wrote...

Even if they go inert the Quarians could play around with the technology and create indoctrination like the one used by Cerberus.

Even if the main Quarian or Geth faction wouldn't use it, some kind of terrorist or criminal faction might.

Apparently both Quarians and Geth can have exiled criminals. Though we have to remember that there will be reaper junk and remains all over the galaxy, every species and all scum of the galaxy will have access to it.

I have a feeling that all that Reapertech will have devastating effects on the galaxy if it isn't brought under control or distributed and applied in a responsible manner.

It's like leaving nuklear weapons in the hands of cavemen, children or animals.

I don't think the Quarians would mess around with it. They already learned their lesson after the war with the Geth and have faced the consequences. Not only by being pushed out of Rannoch, but the fact that the rest of the galaxy hates them. I have a feeling they'd either destroy it or quarantine it. If they were using Reaper technology, it'd just be an invitation for war, as well as very dangerous if there was any indoctrination energy left.

Actually, the Krogan could use the technology to start another uprising. Or maybe some gangs on Omega would use it to gain power. But I doubt the Quarians would, unless it was for plainly research purposes.

[BioWareM0d13]

It depends on which ending is chosen. If you went with Destroy, it is rendered harmless.

The reason why dead Reapers were still able to indoctrinate, is because they weren't fully deactivated. The technology in the Reaper hulks that indoctrinated remaining functioning long after the that individual Reaper's "brain" had stopped functioning. Additionally there will still living Reapers in dark space and/or the Catalyst to deliver orders to the subject who had been exposed to indoctrination technology.

Given that Destroy appears to annihilate all Reaper technology its unlikely that the Reaper hulks would maintain some indoctrination function. But even if the dead Reaper hulks were still capable of indoctrinating people who came into contact with them, there are no living Reapers left to issue orders to those vulnerable people. They'd maintain their free will even if exposed to the indoctrination tech.

I think the bigger threat in the post-Destroy universe is that some ne'er-do-wells will go digging around in Reaper hulks looking to recover and recreate the technology to indoctrinate, to use for their own ends. If you are megalomaniac that lusts for power, indoctrination provides a possible path to achieving it. Hmm on that note...plot for a sequel?

Modifié par Han Shot First, 01 février 2014 - 06:09 .

[DeinonSlayer]

Han Shot First wrote...

I think the bigger threat in the post-Destroy universe is that some ne'er-do-wells will go digging around in Reaper hulks looking to recover and recreate the technology to indoctrinate, to use for their own ends. If you are megalomaniac that lusts for power, indoctrination provides a possible path to achieving it. Hmm on that note...plot for a sequel?

I like it. 

Though I suspect Leviathan will be treated as the Big Bad going forward.

[Reorte]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

I think the bigger threat in the post-Destroy universe is that some ne'er-do-wells will go digging around in Reaper hulks looking to recover and recreate the technology to indoctrinate, to use for their own ends. If you are megalomaniac that lusts for power, indoctrination provides a possible path to achieving it. Hmm on that note...plot for a sequel?

I like it. 

Though I suspect Leviathan will be treated as the Big Bad going forward.

Cerberus got a fair way with that already, there's no reason to guarentee that you've got rid of all their stuff.

[Gervaise]

Reaper tech is rendered harmless by Destroy - if the energy wasn't strong enough to purge it then I doubt it would have damaged the Geth and EDI. It is also doubtful if anyone else could replicate the indoctrination technology without active Reaper tech to assist them. However, that is no to say that all that Reaper junk lying around the galaxy isn't potentially dangerous even if only limited to a standard creation of weapons that replicate what the Reapers could do. In which case instead of organics creating AIs that destroy them, you might have organics creating W.M.D.s that are lethal in the wrong hands. Mind you, that would be true of most of the technology available in the Mass Effect universe.

Incidentally, the screenshots after the Control ending seem to show Miranda studying plans of Reapers. I often wondered if this was meant to imply people were trying to identify weaknesses in their overlord. Of course all those Reapers corpses lying around would be potentially able to indoctrinate in this scenario and Cerberus veterans would be best placed to utilise them.

[General TSAR]

The pulse wave would have rendered the wreckage inert.

Modifié par General TSAR, 01 février 2014 - 09:49 .

[TheN7Penguin]

I wonder if the control ending means you could manipulate The Illusive Man's body like Sovereign did to Saren.

[Navasha]

Probably depends on the ending...
Destroy : Eliminates all reaper tech and higher functioning AI, which would include the indoctrination nanites. Its just scrap for the most part.

Control : ShepAI is the new controller of indoctrination. I assume when he finally succumbs to the corruptibility of godlike power, he will use the reapers to bring the galaxy under his domination.

Synthesis : Well, everyone and everything is already embedded with reaper tech, so indoctrination is pointless at that point. Everyone already is brainwashed into thinking and acting differently.

[Khelish]

Oh God...

More Shodiswe headcanon... I need to drink some bleach.

[katamuro]

Considering the endings we get I wouldnt worry about it. in destroy all the reaper tech gets fried completely so there is no way to get anything out of it. In synthesis the reaper tech, the organics pretty much everything is slapped together into one big happy dysfunctional mess and in control considering that Shepard becomes the new Reaper-Guardian god the bits and pieces of reaper tech are probably very carefully managed by the Reaper armada under the control of Shepard.

SO whichever is the real ending it all becomes a very remote chance of anyone doing anything evil with it in any meaningful way.