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[Teh_Ocelot]

Deerber wrote...

Teh_Ocel0t wrote...

So what I've gleaned from this is, on-host GST is completely legit but it's apparently rarely used, on/off host Reegar makes me a sniveling son of a dirty Reaper hooker, and if I want to be one of the cool kids, then Claymoar b/c pro. Seems to me if it wasn't for the Reegar then everyone would be saying the same things they say about the Reegar, about the Claymoar lol

No one in their right mind would talk about the claymore as they do about the reegar. They're just... Completely different things. Try them out yourself and you'll understand what people like Fortack, me and others mean 

I realize they're completely different guns, despite both being, *ahem* shotguns. All I'm saying is in my experience people pick out the "best" of something and call it OP and a n00b gun and generally trash it and everyone who uses it.

Then again, I just looked up the DPS on it again, and, uh......perhaps a scosche OP 

[NuclearTech76]

Teh_Ocel0t wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Teh_Ocel0t wrote...

So what I've gleaned from this is, on-host GST is completely legit but it's apparently rarely used, on/off host Reegar makes me a sniveling son of a dirty Reaper hooker, and if I want to be one of the cool kids, then Claymoar b/c pro. Seems to me if it wasn't for the Reegar then everyone would be saying the same things they say about the Reegar, about the Claymoar lol

No one in their right mind would talk about the claymore as they do about the reegar. They're just... Completely different things. Try them out yourself and you'll understand what people like Fortack, me and others mean 

I realize they're completely different guns, despite both being, *ahem* shotguns. All I'm saying is in my experience people pick out the "best" of something and call it OP and a n00b gun and generally trash it and everyone who uses it.

Then again, I just looked up the DPS on it again, and, uh......perhaps a scosche OP 

Generally we trash anything that threatens our epeen.

[Shampoohorn]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...
1. Wraith
2. Raider
3. Reegar
4. Venom
5. Piranha
6. Crusader
7. Claymore
8. Graal
9. GPS
10. Eviscerator

Scimitar>>>>>>>>All. :innocent:

So in that list the Scimitar either goes to 11, or zero depending on your frame of reference

[Teh_Ocelot]

Shampoohorn wrote...

Teh_Ocel0t wrote...
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"Just like the acolyte, the reegar is a shield stripper" <-- to this end, I admittedly don't see a lot of hate on the Acolyte, just the Reegar.

Would you say it's a good choice for a kroSent? Good melee damage plus lift grenades for stagger, could be a winner of a combo.

The acolyte is almost as bad as the reegar.  I'd argue that the acolyte has had more impact on tactics than the reegar or any other DLC weapon but that's an 'discusion' for another thread.  ;p

Like somebody else mentioned, you should include the Wraith as an equal option to those other three weapons.  Even at level one, it's awesome (iirc, ibaw) and meanwhile your reegar is going to suffer from limited ammo due to its low level and your spare clip mod only being at level one.


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KroSent...
If you want to melee I'd say your best manifest choice is the Falcon+Omnblade-IV.  Here's a build I use frequently (though with the Striker X).  The Cryo ammo + Incinerate's freeze combo will give you solid armor damage.  The Falcon's stagger sets up your melee attacks.  Consider taking a second low weight weapon for when you need ranged DPS.  Remember that the weapon melee mods are the biggest difference maker when it comes to weapon damage since that multiply total melee damage rather than adding a % of base damage.

Alternatively, you could go for a no cooldown build since that will let you ignore weight, which is one of the main drawbacks of low level weapons.

Ok, so I definitely like the first build and since I have some respec cards I might try that. The 2nd build is something I have never thought of lol. Might be worth looking into. Thanks for the builds 

[Shampoohorn]

The second build lets you bring the really big single shot weapons. Krentinel is not as good for this as the kits with high weapon passives like the geth trooper, but is still a good choice.

[Face of Darkness]

Teh_Ocel0t wrote...

I realize they're completely different guns, despite both being, *ahem* shotguns. All I'm saying is in my experience people pick out the "best" of something and call it OP and a n00b gun and generally trash it and everyone who uses it.

Then again, I just looked up the DPS on it again, and, uh......perhaps a scosche OP 

ya you pretty much hit the nail on the head here, but the reegar is still incredibly fun to use when you're first learning to play the game. It's basically easy mode and a solid weapon for learning how enemies function at higher difficulties

the claymore probably requires more skill to use than any other shotgun (except maybe the graal) since you have to make the 1 shot count and mastering the reload cancel to improve your dps. That said, I much prefer the wraith bc its weight makes it much easier to use on every single kit

[Deerber]

Teh_Ocel0t wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Teh_Ocel0t wrote...

So what I've gleaned from this is, on-host GST is completely legit but it's apparently rarely used, on/off host Reegar makes me a sniveling son of a dirty Reaper hooker, and if I want to be one of the cool kids, then Claymoar b/c pro. Seems to me if it wasn't for the Reegar then everyone would be saying the same things they say about the Reegar, about the Claymoar lol

No one in their right mind would talk about the claymore as they do about the reegar. They're just... Completely different things. Try them out yourself and you'll understand what people like Fortack, me and others mean 

I realize they're completely different guns, despite both being, *ahem* shotguns. All I'm saying is in my experience people pick out the "best" of something and call it OP and a n00b gun and generally trash it and everyone who uses it.

Then again, I just looked up the DPS on it again, and, uh......perhaps a scosche OP 

I wasn't referring to you, mind you. I was referring to your hypothetical "everyone" 

And I stand by what I said. If there was no Reegar, no one in his right mind would pick on the claymore. One is a gun that, while powerful, makes the game retain its fun if you use it, and actually adds to it. The other is a filthy abomination which completely kills all the fun. In a video game. It that's not silly...

Unfortunately, not everyone here on bsn is in his right mind. But know that some are, and only pick on what takes the fun away from the game, not on all the most powerful guns 

[LemurFromTheId]

Deerber wrote...

Teh_Ocel0t wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Teh_Ocel0t wrote...

So what I've gleaned from this is, on-host GST is completely legit but it's apparently rarely used, on/off host Reegar makes me a sniveling son of a dirty Reaper hooker, and if I want to be one of the cool kids, then Claymoar b/c pro. Seems to me if it wasn't for the Reegar then everyone would be saying the same things they say about the Reegar, about the Claymoar lol

No one in their right mind would talk about the claymore as they do about the reegar. They're just... Completely different things. Try them out yourself and you'll understand what people like Fortack, me and others mean 

I realize they're completely different guns, despite both being, *ahem* shotguns. All I'm saying is in my experience people pick out the "best" of something and call it OP and a n00b gun and generally trash it and everyone who uses it.

Then again, I just looked up the DPS on it again, and, uh......perhaps a scosche OP 

I wasn't referring to you, mind you. I was referring to your hypothetical "everyone" 

And I stand by what I said. If there was no Reegar, no one in his right mind would pick on the claymore. One is a gun that, while powerful, makes the game retain its fun if you use it, and actually adds to it. The other is a filthy abomination which completely kills all the fun. In a video game. It that's not silly...

Unfortunately, not everyone here on bsn is in his right mind. But know that some are, and only pick on what takes the fun away from the game, not on all the most powerful guns 

To expand on this, no one in their right mind would call Claymore actually OP, even though it's definitely a top-tier weapon. It's DPS is barely in the top 10 and a significant portion of that is wasted as overkill. While it has an amazing TTK, that only applies to your first target - you always have to add full two seconds to your TTK for the next one. It's also one of the heaviest weapons out there, although I'd be the first to admit that cooldowns don't matter nearly as much as some people think.

[MaxCrushmore]

Damn OP, you are off to a great start on your manifest.

I have about a dozen accounts, and only 1 of them has started as well as yours.

You have a Wraith .. this is better than any shogun you are asking about. And a Talon .. damn i would be abusing these 2 weapons repeatedly if i were you.

I also note you are on PS3. know this re the Reegar, it will make health/shields/barriers evaporate .. but due to our absurdly bad frame-rate issues, will do very little to armor without and ammo mod and some cheesing .. still a great weapon for your Geth Trooper or Vorcha Sentinel, as they have flamers which is as awesome an anti armor ability as exists in this game.

The Claymore is fun and a quality weapon, but not as good as a Wraith IMO.

Man, you've had some great luck in unlocking characters also ... you have the majority of the most powerful kits in the game

[DHKany]

Graal Assguard = A lot of fun.

[jrob6]

Claymore Human Soldier is one of my favorite kits.  Add me if you're looking for people to play with on PS3, OP.  PSN=BSN.

Modifié par jrob6, 28 janvier 2014 - 12:49 .

[Sentient Toaster]

Paigan wrote...
This and just is SO much fun to  easily wipe away Atlasses on platinum  with a retardedly overtanked jugg wielding a retardedly overdamaging Reegar while all the puny organics around are dying like flies :DD.

A short-ranged weapon on an slow, low-manueverability class?  Haven't tried that combination, but... it sounds more aggravating and impractical than fun, somehow.

[MGW7]

Sentient Toaster wrote...

Paigan wrote...
This and just is SO much fun to  easily wipe away Atlasses on platinum  with a retardedly overtanked jugg wielding a retardedly overdamaging Reegar while all the puny organics around are dying like flies :DD.

A short-ranged weapon on an slow, low-manueverability class?  Haven't tried that combination, but... it sounds more aggravating and impractical than fun, somehow.

enemies run right at you, so it does not matter, and the jug doesn't need to dodge much, and his weakness is that he both lacks close quarters dps, and when enemies close he almost always has to fight them, so the reegar suits him better than most

[Chief Capo]

What the Eff? Trying to compare any shotgun at all to the reegar? Improbabdible. It's too OP to be classified with another shotgun, especially the lawl spike thrower.. xd, No seriously, I like the Graal, Was one of my most used shotties in Campaign, I recall using it quite a bit in platinum too, the claymore? Never liked it, especially if you're playing a kit that depends on you to hit that 1 shot to finish an enemy before it finishes you, cause if you miss, it's all ovaaaa. xD

[36812180234]

Of all five (Asari) kits I play, I use Reegar on just one. The gun fits Valkyrie fine, especially with incendiary ammo – because pink sign looks cool with tech armor and because does some decent damage with warp. The gameplay with Valkyrie is far from boring – certainly less boring than any infiltrator. And no, I do not care what anybody says about the gun 
 
Other girls use Talon , Wraith , Harrier  and Hurricane .

On the other hand, I do not use Claymore at all because the tube is just stupidly heavy , and Wraith does the job just fine.

[Teh_Ocelot]

MaxCrushmore wrote...

Damn OP, you are off to a great start on your manifest.

I have about a dozen accounts, and only 1 of them has started as well as yours.

You have a Wraith .. this is better than any shogun you are asking about. And a Talon .. damn i would be abusing these 2 weapons repeatedly if i were you.

I also note you are on PS3. know this re the Reegar, it will make health/shields/barriers evaporate .. but due to our absurdly bad frame-rate issues, will do very little to armor without and ammo mod and some cheesing .. still a great weapon for your Geth Trooper or Vorcha Sentinel, as they have flamers which is as awesome an anti armor ability as exists in this game.

The Claymore is fun and a quality weapon, but not as good as a Wraith IMO.

Man, you've had some great luck in unlocking characters also ... you have the majority of the most powerful kits in the game

Obviously I can't take any credit for the manifest, random number generator is random, but I'm glad to hear it's looking good. 

I appreciate the insight, especially about the Reegar. I'll try it out on my Geth Trooper for sure, would pair great w/ Flamer. Can't believe I never thought of that before.

As for the Wraith and the Talon, I have honestly not used either of these weapons a lot so overall I'm not familiar with their handling. I think what I might do tonight is run a few sets with each gun and find out what works best for me. In my experience the "best" guns aren't necessarily those w/ the best numbers but the ones that you can use the best.

[Teh_Ocelot]

Chief Capo wrote...

What the Eff? Trying to compare any shotgun at all to the reegar? Improbabdible. It's too OP to be classified with another shotgun, especially the lawl spike thrower.. xd, No seriously, I like the Graal, Was one of my most used shotties in Campaign, I recall using it quite a bit in platinum too, the claymore? Never liked it, especially if you're playing a kit that depends on you to hit that 1 shot to finish an enemy before it finishes you, cause if you miss, it's all ovaaaa. xD

Yeah, no joke. I'm not the most accurate player in the world so I've gotten run over a few times after missing the first salvo and then waiting the 1-2 seconds for the reload to come in. Reload canceling helps but still, if you don't get a stagger w/ the first shot you're screwed. The most effective I've found the Claymore so far is on my krogan Sentinel class b/c if I miss the shot then I just melee and that's as good as hitting the shot lol. Maybe I should just run Omniblade and melee everyone