Dean_the_Young wrote...
javeart wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
The problem isn't with people always picking the Paragon option. The problem is that the Paragon option is almost always right.
What do you mean with always right? No bad consequences? Well, I could agree, but it's not like renegade options have a lot of bad consequences, either. But, yes, I'd like it if we had to face more negative outcomes from our decisions. I don't think these negative otucomes should be exclsuive to paragons, tough. I understand the renegade logic, that sometimes you have to get your hands dirty and all, but a renegade path should have its own downsides... for instance, a renegade shepard should make a lot of enemies and find herself often in a very bad position to get help and things like that
I'm not Alan, but I believe I remember his general position on this. It comes down to the self-justifications for Paragonism and Renegade ideology. Paragon is about doing things the right way, even if it doesn't work out, while Renegade is about doing whatever's necessary, carrying the costs, to succeed. So long as Paragon occassionally fails and Renegade is necessary for success, that sort of morality system works.
But if Paragon, ie the morally 'right' way, never fails, then the Renegade counterpart is undermined. There's no point for accepting morally inferior actions and excessive costs in the name of necessity if those actions are not, in fact, necessary. An ideology based on extreme pragmatism makes no sense if the superior outcomes (ie, the pragmatically superior) all belong to the opposing ideology.
There is a lot of this in what I believe it is. I'm fine with taking paragon options, but I'm not fine with how most of them are presented (and concluded).
I choose the options because they are indeed the pragmatically superior options as you say, rather than the renegade option, which while still practical, is virtually undermined by the story since the game takes on a decidedly "morally right" stance with paragon. And it's very irritating.
I think a truly practical person would disregard the paragon or renegade ideal and take whichever option is more pragmatic and more appropriate for achieving ones goal, not just for the sake or spirit of either ideology (which pretty much blend together exactly, and are really only different in terms of presentation, color, name, and a notional ideology).
In my decision making process, I'm really not one to regard morality or ethics as a part of why I choose a course of action. If it's in my best interest and the interest of my goal to be diplomatic and compassionate, I'll do it. Likewise, if I have to commit genocide, I'm more than willing to do that as well. Necessity knows no law. Comes with being unfettered.