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[liggy002]

  It seems to be the easiest thing to do... you only need to eliminate synthetic beings in ME4.  Either that or you go to the far future where people have built them again.  Sure, people will be pissed that their choice wasn't canonized, but they still could potentially do this.

  Whether you chose Anderson or Udina in ME1 ultimately did not matter.  That's an example of a choice that wasn't really honored.

Or, they could canonize destroy in a different fashion:

1. Synthesis:

There are those who cannot live alongside the Reapers so they destroy them  (along with the Catalyst) anyway by building another Crucible.  The green glow of synthesis eventually fades away. 

2. Control:

The Reapers are destroyed for the same reason as in Synthesis and Shepard is destroyed along with them.


3. Refuse:

Doesn't play a factor here since everyone dies in the previous cycle, not canonized.

[Obadiah]

I've been reading some Dragon Age comics and books where the outcomes of some characters in the games I played were completely disregarded. I have come to the rather comfortable realization that I'll be fine if they don't carry my decisions into the next game. If the story is good, I'll probably enjoy the game move on.

That said, I hope they find a way to carry my ending decision.

[AlexMBrennan]

Well, people seem to have gotten the impression that Bioware like the synthesis ending more - if you just disregard everything Catalyst says and blow everything up then, well, they might as well not have bothered with the "deep" ending at all.

[AlanC9]

I almost want them to canonize Synthesis just so I can watch the nerdrage.

[TurianRebel212]

They're gonna have to canonize something. Just how it is. All endings are pretty polarizing and very fatalistic. Also, there's not really anywhere to go with either of them.

Maybe. MAYBE. Destroy. But.... The Reapers are defeated. So... who's the bad guys gonna be?

The synthetics that the organics make, that will eventually rise up against the organics????

Yeah.

Refuse would be the easiest cause the Reapers are still out there. And so is the harvest mandate.

Synthesis is the pinnacle of evolution and everyone is on the same level, so you can't do that. There's no conflict at all.

Control could work. But.... It would require a Reaper Shep God revolt... Kinda dumb.

This just goes to show how BioWare really wasn't thinking things through very well when they drafted up the endings.

I see retcons in future...


Lots, and lots, and lots of retcons.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

I notice a lot of people thinking that any of the tri-color endings have to be continued on the way they're presented to us in ME3, as if BioWare devs have never retconned things established at the end of the last game. Kinda cute ^^

[TurianRebel212]

RETCONS!!!

They will happen.

There will be retcons!!!





Prepare yourself.... For their arrival.

[TurianRebel212]

AlanC9 wrote...

I almost want them to canonize Synthesis just so I can watch the nerdrage.

That would be the greatest Troll in RPG history. 

And for that...... 

I give the idea 2 thumbs WAAAAAYYYY Up. 

Could you imagine? 

They utter nerd rage that would ensue. 

It would be.......Glorious. 

[Ieldra]

AlanC9 wrote...
I almost want them to canonize Synthesis just so I can watch the nerdrage.

Hehe....perhaps it's not surprising that I would like this to happen as well. While I don't really care what they do for the next game, I would love to get some revenge-by-proxy for all the sh*t I had to take for liking the Synthesis. I've certainly not forgiven that.

If they canonize Destroy....*shrug*. I can't be bothered to get bothered any more.

[BioWareM0d13]

If Bioware were to canonize a single ending the best bets would be either High EMS Destroy or Synthesis.

High EMS Destroy is far and away the fan favorite. Its the most fan servicey and as such the least likely to generate a sh_tstorm.

Synthesis on the other hand seemed to be the darling of the writing team. Or at least, the lead writers. Do the shouts of the unwashed peasants reach those ivory towers? Maybe not.

Refuse you can automatically rule out, as it is DLC only and ends with everyone dead.

Of the original endings I'd give Control the worst odds at getting the sole canon nod.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 28 janvier 2014 - 08:58 .

[Clayless]

Destroy? Removing synthetics from a sci-fi game?

God no.

[AlexMBrennan]

You don't need a retcon for a synthesis sequel - after all, "Synthesis is inevitable".

[Grizzly46]

TurianRebel212 wrote...

RETCONS!!!

They will happen.

There will be retcons!!!





Prepare yourself.... For their arrival.

This.

As long as ME-Next is set after the reaper war, there will be retcons and canonizing one ending, and quite frankly that sucks.

Mass Effect is basically Shepard's story, and to continue the ME franchise is just milking it - it would be better to either reboot ME1 and possibly 2, remake ME 3 and tie everything neatly together than to force another game into the same universe.

Bioware CAN make fantastic game worlds, they don't need to go back to Mass Effect for that. So I say, no matter what IP they have in the pipeine, let it be something else (unless it's a reboot as I said). Something that doesn't hurt the company image as was done after ME3 (and to a certain extent, DA2), because seriously, that **** storm was unbelievable.

[Farangbaa]

Canonized ending will be, if any, Refuse.

So you can play the human version of Javik with your 2 human squadmates that were also frozen. First mission: find Liara's time capsule.

[marcelo caldas]

AlanC9 wrote...

I almost want them to canonize Synthesis just so I can watch the nerdrage.

I'll be one of them

[marcelo caldas]

TurianRebel212 wrote...

RETCONS!!!

They will happen.

There will be retcons!!!





Prepare yourself.... For their arrival.

retcons indeed are on the way, on the other hand, I hope I never have to hear about the crucible again.
THAT, would be a retcon worth having.

[dreamgazer]

caldas wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

RETCONS!!!

They will happen.

There will be retcons!!!





Prepare yourself.... For their arrival.

retcons indeed are on the way, on the other hand, I hope I never have to hear about the crucible again.
THAT, would be a retcon worth having.

A stubbornly unprepared galaxy (thanks, ME2) trusted the advanced technology of the previous cycle to defeat the Reapers. The Crucible happened.

[marcelo caldas]

Robosexual wrote...

Destroy? Removing synthetics from a sci-fi game?

God no.

On the next day after the "Red Wave" someone can create syntetics again, I imagine only true AI were destroyed.
MAC's and everything else are running good.

Modifié par caldas, 28 janvier 2014 - 03:29 .

[spirosz]

I'd rather they canonize Synthesis or Refuse, personally.

[marcelo caldas]

dreamgazer wrote...

caldas wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

RETCONS!!!

They will happen.

There will be retcons!!!





Prepare yourself.... For their arrival.

retcons indeed are on the way, on the other hand, I hope I never have to hear about the crucible again.
THAT, would be a retcon worth having.

A stubbornly unprepared galaxy (thanks, ME2) trusted the advanced technology of the previous cycle to defeat the Reapers. The Crucible happened.

I donn't know even why we need the crucible in the first place.
The citadel is the center of reaper's control, ok, let's go there with a nuke and destroy it.
Arriving there you find TIM and he shows you another way, rebooting the machines.
There, you can now have the same choices.

[marcelo caldas]

spirosz wrote...

I'd rather they canonize Synthesis or Refuse, personally.

How?
Every being have the collective knowledge of the entire existence in their very minds, and everyone understands everyone.
If some galaxy far away tries to invade, you can fire the crucible again and make them equals, or send all the unstopeble reaper armada to thake care of it, and everyone else stays at their homes contemplating the secrets of the universe. 

[CronoDragoon]

In the sense that I believe it likely no Reapers will appear in ME4, I'd say Destroy is the most likely candidate provided they do decide to canonize one.

That being said it's unlikely they'll use the term "canonize".

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 28 janvier 2014 - 03:41 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

caldas wrote...

spirosz wrote...

I'd rather they canonize Synthesis or Refuse, personally.

How?
Every being have the collective knowledge of the entire existence in their very minds, and everyone understands everyone.
If some galaxy far away tries to invade, you can fire the crucible again and make them equals, or send all the unstopeble reaper armada to thake care of it, and everyone else stays at their homes contemplating the secrets of the universe. 

You just don't get it.