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#51
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Am1_vf wrote...


Edit: I have never even considered the possibility of giving Fenris to the Magister or Isabela to the Qunari :blush:


When I thought about it, it was my 20+ play through and I wanted to see some of the scenes I hadn't seen before. So now I just go to youtube to see those scenes and play the game the way my heart tells me too.

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Veruin wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Magic is a cancer in the heart of our land.


I would totally offer you a key for admission to the Templar Coffee house Templar person, but they don't want to give me one.


Veruin, do remember that I am on the level. I know where your little Templar coffee house resides. My spies have infiltrated you.
:devil:

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EntropicAngel wrote...

MAKER GIVE ME STRENGTH!!!!!!!!!!


*super Saiyan*


Noo, don't make me post a picture I'll regret.

eluvianix wrote...

Veruin, do remember that I am on the level. I know where your little Templar coffee house resides. My spies have infiltrated you.
[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]


What part of "If I had a key" didn't you understand? :P

Modifié par Veruin, 28 janvier 2014 - 09:41 .


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eluvianix wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

I have turned over a new leaf. I have seen the light of the Maker!!! All mages must perish.


Wait a minute...you were Qun a few weeks ago.

>.>

*is suspicious*

Blessed are those who stand before the corrupt and the wicked, AND DO NOT FALTER.

he is tranquil:huh:(wait tranquils act logically, but he acts fanatically)
so templars washed his brain by torturing him and shouting "Maker is the only real god" until he submitted to them:unsure:


I hope this isnt role of Inquisition:?

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Veruin wrote...

Noo, don't make me post a picture I'll regret.


Go for it.

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Rassler wrote...


What about Andraste's mistake? The chantry and the Templars? I tend to fix that mistake, that twisted horrible mistake. My hawke even promised Anders and Justice to do it. I shall do everything in my power to hold that promise

*snip*


Andraste was never the problem. It's the interpretations of others that starts problems.

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@Veruin, should I be frightened?

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eluvianix wrote...

Rassler wrote...


What about Andraste's mistake? The chantry and the Templars? I tend to fix that mistake, that twisted horrible mistake. My hawke even promised Anders and Justice to do it. I shall do everything in my power to hold that promise

*snip*


Andraste was never the problem. It's the interpretations of others that starts problems.


Meh that was not even the point of my post. Hawke makes a promise to kill all Templars. He makes no such promise to kill all mages. I just wanted pro templars to be jelly :devil:

What if maker doesn't exist lol, that is still a possibility. You cannot fix mistake of someone who doesn't exist.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

Go for it.


*snip*
Super Sayian reminded me of this.  

If I get banned, it's your fault. :wizard:

eluvianix wrote...

@Veruin, should I be frightened?


If being frightened by people without keys is your thing, I won't judge.

Modifié par Veruin, 28 janvier 2014 - 09:48 .


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@Perfect image...now edit it so you don't get banned.

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prepare your self eluvianix, becouse you will meet ashes of Andraste[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie] (multiplayer)

dont forget that it was maker who send taint to this realm (to eliminate old gods)
becouse will of Man shall never break


it would be evil [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]to pray for remaining old gods
and becouse they are listening, they will  grant you more power

Modifié par Nuloen, 28 janvier 2014 - 09:57 .


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AutumnWitch wrote...

Am1_vf wrote...


Edit: I have never even considered the possibility of giving Fenris to the Magister or Isabela to the Qunari :blush:


When I thought about it, it was my 20+ play through and I wanted to see some of the scenes I hadn't seen before. So now I just go to youtube to see those scenes and play the game the way my heart tells me too.


I tend to see a nice variety  with all the different characters I play, sometimes if there's some choice I've been missing all the time I make a new different character for that (like saving Morinth in Mass Effect 2), but for those choices the questions would be how would a character who chooses that be? and do I want to play a character like that? I don't think I want to, but if I ever come up with a interesting enough character who can rationalize those choices... maybe I'll try it someday?

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eluvianix wrote...

Andraste was never the problem. It's the interpretations of others that starts problems.

Agreed completely.  Andraste and the Chant stated that mages shouldn't rule or use blood magic. They said nothing about how to treat mages.
Though I have to say that I prefer your Qun mode. Your Templar mode isn't really convincing.

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@Rassler Killing all of the Templar Order doesn't solve your problem. If anything, that makes the common people even more antagonistic towards mages.

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Aw, I missed it!

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hhh89 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Andraste was never the problem. It's the interpretations of others that starts problems.

Agreed completely.  Andraste and the Chant stated that mages shouldn't rule or use blood magic. They said nothing about how to treat mages.
Though I have to say that I prefer your Qun mode. Your Templar mode isn't really convincing.

Well, somebody brought up a point that I needed to debate as a mage, so I dropped Templar mode for the moment. I shall go Qun again tomorrow.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

Aw, I missed it!


There, there.  I'll just post it on your wall.

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Yeah lol, you were better of with the Qun Eluvianix. Templars are cowards and hypocrites, they use magic to fight magic, if its so evil stop using magic then. Lyrium also corrupts and there is chance of insanity, we shall explore as dangerous as mages Templars much further in DA:I.

The qun however win against mages (tevinter and their own) with technology. That is power and strength, unlike Templars they are not cowards and hypocrites. Its the same scenario with ME really. If technology is advanced enough biotics become irrelevant and merely a simple advantage. Although people with biotics don't get possessed they can be as dangerous as abomination if they wanted but they can be put down very easily thanks to technology.

Modifié par Rassler, 28 janvier 2014 - 09:59 .


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eluvianix wrote...

If we get to kill all the mages, then I'll be happy :)


lol u can try my mage army will be the most powerful force thedas will have ever seen.

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Good and evil is subjective. There are acts that many can agree upon as "evil" (I have some myself,) but when it comes to Origins and Inquisition, I saw less evil choices. What I mostly saw was pragmatic choices:

prag·mat·ic adjective \\prag-ˈma-tik\\

: dealing with the problems that exist in a specific situation in a reasonable and logical way instead of depending on ideas and theories

2 : relating to matters of fact or practical affairs often to the exclusion of intellectual or artistic matters : practical as opposed to idealistic <pragmatic men of power have had no time or inclination to deal with … social morality — K. B. Clark>


A pragmatic has to get things done and can't always worry about the morality of the issue. I figure that's why there is Blood Mages in the Wardens. What others see as "evil" the Wardens see as one more tool against the Blight.

There is somethings I personally consider evil: Genocide of the mages, giving Fenris back to the man that sexually and physically abused him; the (admittedly few) Templars that were beating, whipping and abusing mages; keeping Conner a demon; Tarohne making sure the Templars were getting possessed, ect.

*I did not include Isabela on that list. I never have given her back to the Qunari, but even I can admit she would deserve it. Besides, even if you do that, Varric will say in the ending that Isabela got out a few days later. <shrug>

However, that's just my views on it. I don't pick those choices for myself, but I can respect those that do. Being evil is subjective; being pragmatic is not. You can be pragmatic without being evil and vice versa.

Modifié par Starsyn, 28 janvier 2014 - 10:08 .


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Well this is interesting.

I don't know of any mageTEMPLAR players who are up and switching sides.

Modifié par EntropicAngel, 28 janvier 2014 - 10:10 .


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EntropicAngel wrote...

Well this is interesting.

I don't know of any mage players who are up and switching sides.


As some of the posters have pointed out, he was for the Qun last week.  I think the pressure of waiting for Inquistion has finally caused eluvianix to completely snap :P

Modifié par Starsyn, 28 janvier 2014 - 10:09 .


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Darn. I meant Templar! Templar. He's a mage player who switched sides, but i don't know any Templar players who up and switched sides.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

Darn. I meant Templar! Templar. He's a mage player who switched sides, but i don't know any Templar players who up and switched sides.


I'm sure there is a few, they are just leery of speaking.

Modifié par Starsyn, 28 janvier 2014 - 10:11 .


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EntropicAngel wrote...

Darn. I meant Templar! Templar. He's a mage player who switched sides, but i don't know any Templar players who up and switched sides.

MisterJB did it one/two weeks ago.