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[Battlebloodmage]

Rassler wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Rassler wrote...

Starsyn wrote...

Eluvianix: It might not be your style (or mine,) but there is a simple reason for that. People like to roleplay different mentalities, and sometimes pretending to be a heartless bastard in a game is cathartic.

Lol more like heartless at templars. I'm probably going to worship any mage companion introduced to us, especially if they are a male mage 

What if the mage in question wants the Circle system back:whistle:?

Heavens no! I kinda doubt it will happen anyway. The worst scenario is named mage will want peace, I don't think a sane mage would want to back to the old circles. Start a war, people die only to go back to the old system? I have no problems with mages being under control but the circles are not coming back, at least not in previous fashion. A new method needs to be introduced.

Is Wynne insane? She seems to be pretty happy with the Circle and its existence. 

[Lulupab]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Rassler wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Rassler wrote...

Starsyn wrote...

Eluvianix: It might not be your style (or mine,) but there is a simple reason for that. People like to roleplay different mentalities, and sometimes pretending to be a heartless bastard in a game is cathartic.

Lol more like heartless at templars. I'm probably going to worship any mage companion introduced to us, especially if they are a male mage 

What if the mage in question wants the Circle system back:whistle:?

Heavens no! I kinda doubt it will happen anyway. The worst scenario is named mage will want peace, I don't think a sane mage would want to back to the old circles. Start a war, people die only to go back to the old system? I have no problems with mages being under control but the circles are not coming back, at least not in previous fashion. A new method needs to be introduced.

Is Wynne insane? She seems to be pretty happy with the Circle and its existence. 

But you misinterpretated my post. Wynne died before all this. After a war has been declared and people died in order to change the way circles work, do you think they would go back to the exact same circle after so much loss? Unless forced no sane person would do that its not even moral. Then it means all those people died for nothing, at least some improvement has to be made. I'm sure Wynne would want some improvement to the circles as well, if she was alive.

[acid_rain82]

Parmida wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Parmida wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Mistress9Nine wrote...

acid_rain82 wrote...

If Cullen returns, I want to use the murder knife on him.

If murder knife is slang for manparts, I agree! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie] 

Is that your murder knife or are you just happy to see me? 

Oh my! Cully, but your sword is much bigger than my murderknife!   


(I'm a girl that's soo hot..me gusta!) *derp*

Only one way to know:

Sword fight. 

Okay, I'll stop now before I get banned. 

That would probably end with Quizzy's murderknife breaking..

Hey Mistress9Nine, if you want to be a cullen fan girl fine, but i hate the bastard and want to kill him.

Modifié par acid_rain82, 01 février 2014 - 09:44 .

[ladyofpayne]

Because fans asked him.

He isn't new and intresting ahcracter- his story already have been told in DAO and DA 2. As an NPC he can be fine but what else can devs told us about him if he could be companion? Tragic story of his childhood? We need more new and intresting characters. I hope devs will show us them instead of those second hand man.

[The Elder King]

@Rassler: Vivienne is known to be pro-Circle.
Though being pro-Circle doesn't mean that you support the old system. There are pro-mages, pro-templars and neutrals (like myself) that support a Circle system, but changed.

[Dreadstruck]

Sure, I'd like him back.

Just so I could stab him in the kidneys or something.

[Hellion Rex]

Rassler wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Rassler wrote...

Starsyn wrote...

Eluvianix: It might not be your style (or mine,) but there is a simple reason for that. People like to roleplay different mentalities, and sometimes pretending to be a heartless bastard in a game is cathartic.

Lol more like heartless at templars. I'm probably going to worship any mage companion introduced to us, especially if they are a male mage 

What if the mage in question wants the Circle system back:whistle:?

Heavens no! I kinda doubt it will happen anyway. The worst scenario is named mage will want peace, I don't think a sane mage would want to back to the old circles. Start a war, people die only to go back to the old system? I have no problems with mages being under control but the circles are not coming back, at least not in previous fashion. A new method needs to be introduced.

Ahem. Vivienne is pro-circle.

[BraveVesperia]

eluvianix wrote...

Rassler wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Rassler wrote...

Starsyn wrote...

Eluvianix: It might not be your style (or mine,) but there is a simple reason for that. People like to roleplay different mentalities, and sometimes pretending to be a heartless bastard in a game is cathartic.

Lol more like heartless at templars. I'm probably going to worship any mage companion introduced to us, especially if they are a male mage 

What if the mage in question wants the Circle system back:whistle:?

Heavens no! I kinda doubt it will happen anyway. The worst scenario is named mage will want peace, I don't think a sane mage would want to back to the old circles. Start a war, people die only to go back to the old system? I have no problems with mages being under control but the circles are not coming back, at least not in previous fashion. A new method needs to be introduced.

Ahem. Vivienne is pro-circle.

That's pretty vague though, she could approve of a Circle in some form, but not necessarily the same as before (as opposed to a character like Morrigan, who probably would prefer if mages all learn their thing alone, one-to-one, etc).

[Lotion Soronarr]

Rassler wrote...
But you misinterpretated my post. Wynne died before all this. After a war has been declared and people died in order to change the way circles work, do you think they would go back to the exact same circle after so much loss? Unless forced no sane person would do that its not even moral. Then it means all those people died for nothing, at least some improvement has to be made. I'm sure Wynne would want some improvement to the circles as well, if she was alive.

1. Yes. Happened all the time in history.

2. No, it's not immoral.

Would the Circle be EXACTLY the same? Bloody unlikely.

[terdferguson123]

 For me it comes down to this: 

I don't like or agree with Cullen, I think he is an incredibly radical Templar and is just as much a part of the problem as radical mages such as Anders. Also just because he sides with you at the end if you choose to help the mages doesn't change anything (It was quite clear that Meredith was fully absorbed by the Red Lyrium at that point, he'd have to be just as crazy not to.)

However a character that emits a feeling such as disagreement and dislike such as Cullen is a good thing. I also did not like or agree with Anders in DA2. However, this feeling of dislike and disagreement that I have for Anders and Cullen is what makes them interesting.

As far as people wanting to romance him, I don't see what the fuss is all about, just about all of the romance options have something incredibly shady about them.

Just a few examples:
1.) Zevran is an assassin who tells you straight up he loves killing people and isn't phased by the killing of innocents.
2.) Morrigan is a witch of the Wilds, daughter of one of the most powerful people in Thedas and wants your character to impregnate her with a baby that contains the soul of an archdemon.
3.) Merril is a blood mage who ignores every warning you and all of her friends and family give her that a great price will be paid for her blood magic. She doesn't realize this till it's too late.
4.) Anders is an abomination and a fantasy terrorist who destroys many innocents just to push something over the edge that he feels strongly about.

When you look at that motley crue, do people who want to romance Cullen really seem that out of place?

Modifié par terdferguson123, 01 février 2014 - 11:16 .

[Amirit]

David Gaider wrote...
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I don't know what they're referring to. There have been way more threads complaining about fans asking for Cullen than there have ever been threads asking for Cullen...and the threads asking for Cullen are generally the same sort of wistful "wouldn't it be nice if...?" discussions that come up about every other sort of thing that people talk about here in absence of real game info.

.......

Just in case you are truly curious about it... Here: http://social.biowar...981/14#16728140

at some point I had (as someone mentioned in the thread) too much time on my hands and counted love\\hate topics about Cullen. Posts in the "neutral" section are indeed neutral - should you read it (as I did) you will see it's about "how come Cullen could not see this or that?"
So, pure "hate" topics are easy to spot - sure - but there are not as many of them as one could think.

As for loud tears of anti-fans of Cullen - have a mercy! They hoped for a new companion and LI, yet not only they are getting the old one (Cullen is almost confirmed, as we know) but the one they were happy never to see again. And every fangirl's "squee" adds another grain of salt to that wound. All anti-fans can do is cry here "why, BW, why!" in preparation to inevitable encounter.

[Nefla]

I thought he was a cool and fairly level headed (in DA2 and at least obedient to Greagor in DA:O) it would be good to get to know him as a person but included or not it's fine with me.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

As someone in here has probably said before, I would like to see Cullen in DAI simply because he has seen the conflict from both sides at their worst. From Uldred in the Ferelden Circle becoming an abomination factory to Meredith in the Kirkwall Circle slaying an entire group of innocent mages for the actions of a single apostate, it will be interesting t see how that shapes him. Now whether he is an NPC or companion, I don't care which though I'd prefer an NPC.

[Gwydden]

I don't care one way or another whether Cullen will be a companion character or major NPC in DAI. Truth be told, I don't see how people can have so strong feelings toward a character who has only shown up briefly in the two games.

Note: Cullen is hardly the only one. Cassandra is a much worse offender. Everytime I see someone saying "She's so lame" or "She's SO awesome" I wonder what frame of reference do they have. Cullen? Same thing.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Gwydden wrote...

I don't care one way or another whether Cullen will be a companion character or major NPC in DAI. Truth be told, I don't see how people can have so strong feelings toward a character who has only shown up briefly in the two games.

Note: Cullen is hardly the only one. Cassandra is a much worse offender. Everytime I see someone saying "She's so lame" or "She's SO awesome" I wonder what frame of reference do they have. Cullen? Same thing.

Well, Cassandra did have a movie with her as the protagonist, so she has a better standing than Cullen. Granted the movie takes place almost two decades prior to Inquisition so who knows what's changed about her since then.

[mopotter]

motomotogirl wrote...

mopotter wrote...

Thane - one of my favorite LI and really I didn't mind the death.  It turned my Shepard into someone who had nothing to live for and wanted Joker & Edi to be happy so she picked synthesis.  Jacob however, I hated Shepards tone when she talked to him the first few times, I turned the sound off.  The romance itself was ok but when I found out about his action in Me3 I deleted the Me2 game exactly because it made me feel I had made an error in judgement.

Yeah when I found out about the Jacob "romance" I was seriously appalled for his fans. Luckily the DA writers have promised to not retcon any of our previous romances (or have our LIs "cheat" on us). 

I think they forgot what they had done in ME2 or didn't think players would care, and they were wrong.  Agree, I don't expect anything like this in DAI, partly because it's going to be a stand alone story, not the continuation of one.  

[MageTarot]

I'd like Cullen as a companion if only to be able to change his outlook regarding the events that have happened in Thedas.

In Origins he was captured and tortured by Uldred so he knows what corrupted mages are capable of. With Knight-Commander Meredith's descent into paranoia and madness he also witnessed first-hand that the Templars are not immune to corruption either.

Bottom line - this guy has one majorly scarred psyche. it would be interesting to see if the Inquisitor can help strengthen his beliefs or destroy them.

[Battlebloodmage]

Amirit wrote...


As for loud tears of anti-fans of Cullen - have a mercy! They hoped for a new companion and LI, yet not only they are getting the old one (Cullen is almost confirmed, as we know) but the one they were happy never to see again. And every fangirl's "squee" adds another grain of salt to that wound. All anti-fans can do is cry here "why, BW, why!" in
preparation to inevitable encounter.

You make it seem like his inclusion is due to fan service, and Mr. Gaider has already stated that he wouldn't include him for fan service or making anyone LI because of the fans. If you're talking about returning character, he wouldn't be out of place with Varric (a full-on companion from the last game) and Cassandra. 

[duckley]

And I thought Loghain was a polarizing character.... I wonder if the negativity about Cullen is really about negativity towards Templars...

I think Cullen is an interesting character and I can't wait to find out how being a victim of Mage and Templar alike impacts him. I do not think he will be a companion (although I would love that) but I do think he will be back as an agent.

[Parmida]

MageTarot wrote...

I'd like Cullen as a companion if only to be able to change his outlook regarding the events that have happened in Thedas.

In Origins he was captured and tortured by Uldred so he knows what corrupted mages are capable of. With Knight-Commander Meredith's descent into paranoia and madness he also witnessed first-hand that the Templars are not immune to corruption either.

Bottom line - this guy has one majorly scarred psyche. it would be interesting to see if the Inquisitor can help strengthen his beliefs or destroy them.

Your avatar is tearing my soul apart man!

UGH! QUIZZY! Y U SO HOT?

[MageTarot]

duckley wrote...

And I thought Loghain was a polarizing character.... I wonder if the negativity about Cullen is really about negativity towards Templars...

Naaah, it's pretty much (insert eyeroll here) "Aw, geez another hawt guy fangrrls and bois can spend the entire game trying to get into the sack." (insert optional second eyeroll here).

That's what I gathered anyway.


PS - pay no attention to the banners in my sig. I'm just holding them for a friend.

[TeamLexana]

I hope he's not a companion but I doubt that's the case. With Varric and Cullen, I'm not seeing a whole lot of male li's for my females. I'm not into Cullen, sorry. Varric is very charming but not attracive to me and after spending YEARS with Hawke and not giving Hawke the time of day romantically, I have a hard time believing my Inquistor's golden "insert joke here" is enough for him to finally cheat on his crossbow for.

I felt pretty limited in DA2 and the whole ME series with male LI's, I hope that's not the case now. At least ME had Garrus I guess, and even though he was ass ugly, he's still badass, lol.

[keightdee]

David Gaider wrote...
There have been way more threads complaining about fans asking for Cullen than there have ever been threads asking for Cullen...and the threads asking for Cullen are generally the same sort of wistful "wouldn't it be nice if...?" discussions that come up about every other sort of thing that people talk about here in absence of real game info.

Quite frankly, if there ever was a group of fans who I (or anyone else on the DA team) would include something just to make them happy, I think we'd lean more towards the "polite but enthusiastic" than not. Just saying.

Speaking of "wouldn't it be nice if ..." characters, wouldn't it be nice if Sebastian returned?

Siiigh. So nice.

[Nefla]

keightdee wrote...

David Gaider wrote...
There have been way more threads complaining about fans asking for Cullen than there have ever been threads asking for Cullen...and the threads asking for Cullen are generally the same sort of wistful "wouldn't it be nice if...?" discussions that come up about every other sort of thing that people talk about here in absence of real game info.

Quite frankly, if there ever was a group of fans who I (or anyone else on the DA team) would include something just to make them happy, I think we'd lean more towards the "polite but enthusiastic" than not. Just saying.

Speaking of "wouldn't it be nice if ..." characters, wouldn't it be nice if Sebastian returned?

Siiigh. So nice.

Yes! Especially if he and Hawke decided to drop the "chaste" out of their marriage and had some babies