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[Thomas Andresen]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

Honestly, I like Merrill because she's cute, naive and I have a thing for elven girls. Oh, and I was the very first non-BioWare staff member/family/friend to know that Merrill had been confirmed as a companion (by Chris Priestly). However, I never make threads about her, and I only ever defend her or talk about her in threads about her. I never preach about how good (I think) she is.

My point is, and really this is just a general throwing-it-out-there for all the "Why the hell is Cullen popular?" threads-  you like Merrill. Some people like Cullen. There's really no need to question why. People like things. 

This, and...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...


I have a question for Cullen fanboys and girls: what is it you like about Cullen, and can you even explain what his personality is, without bias?

I don't think it's possible to explain why you like someone or something without bias.

Preferences are subjective and irrational.

This.

[Orian Tabris]

Thomas Andresen wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...


I have a question for Cullen fanboys and girls: what is it you like about Cullen, and can you even explain what his personality is, without bias?

I don't think it's possible to explain why you like someone or something without bias.

Preferences are subjective and irrational.

This.

I would like to point this out to you:

Orian Tabris wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...


I
have a question for Cullen fanboys and girls: what is it you like about
Cullen, and can you even explain what his personality is, without
bias?

I don't think it's possible to explain why you like someone or something without bias.

Preferences are subjective and irrational.

Sorry, I meant explain what his personality is, without bias. Not what it is they like about him, without bias.

[Grieving Natashina]

Orian: I think you're asking people to describe Cullen's personality other than his PTSD.

Not why players may or may not like him.

[Chanda]

[Orian Tabris]

Starsyn wrote...

Orian: I think you're asking people to describe Cullen's personality other than his PTSD.

Not why players may or may not like him.

Well, his PTSD has defined part of his personality...

[Orian Tabris]

Chanda wrote...

Indeed!

The same could be said of Anders and Justice/vengeance.

[Grieving Natashina]

Well, I can safely say I have a decent idea of where the BSN is coming from.  For those that did not choose to flame me, thanks for taking the time to answer.

I'm content to let this thread die, since it served the purpose I needed it to. 

Modifié par Starsyn, 29 janvier 2014 - 05:48 .

[Thomas Andresen]

Sorry, I meant explain what his personality is, without bias. Not what it is they like about him, without bias.

Yes, that is exactly the same as what you said in the post Maria quoted. But I could rephrase Maria's statement for you. No one who has an opinion of a person, whether real or a fictional character, can really say anything about that person without bias. The only things that is ever without bias is law and mathematics.

[Orian Tabris]

Thomas Andresen wrote...

Sorry, I meant explain what his personality is, without bias. Not what it is they like about him, without bias.

Yes, that is exactly the same as what you said in the post Maria quoted. But I could rephrase Maria's statement for you. No one who has an opinion of a person, whether real or a fictional character, can really say anything about that person without bias. The only things that is ever without bias is law and mathematics.

Facts in general, aren't with bias. Though, I do not doubt it may be hard to explain facts without using your own bias.

The bias part was really to emphasis the fact that I wanted them to explain what they think his personality is.

[The Hierophant]

lulz

[The Elder King]

I don't care much if Cullen will be a companion or not. I'd have preferred an all-new cast, but that ship sailed with Varric.
Still, I'm interested in seeing Cullen's character development after Kirkwall, regardless if he's a companion or a NPC. He saw both mages and templars at their worst. I wonder if and how his stance is influenced by those events.
@Thomas Anderson: about Greg Ellis, he couldn't mean another character since he specifically said he was working on Cullen. Another project is theorically possible, but I doubt it. And the GI coverage hinted at Leliana and Cullen being in the game.

Modifié par hhh89, 29 janvier 2014 - 06:10 .

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Because if he becomes a companion in DA:I, it will be expressly due to his popularity, not any natural path branching from his character arc, because there's nothing important about him. And that is pretty much the definition of "fan service."

To be fair, fan service can sometimes be good. Cullen could turn out to be a great choice for companion, for all I know.

It would still be fan-service, though.

[spinachdiaper]

I think Cullen is a Horse's Arse, nope I don't like him at all, then again that is the same feeling i had towards DA2's squad, Heck they even turned the pre-existing characters that were interesting into annoying jerks in DA2, I did like Merrill though

[acid_rain82]

If Cullen returns, I want to use the murder knife on him.

[Chiantirose1982]

 
Cullen could end up in Orlais after the whole Templar Order goes down the drain. Maybe, just maybe he replaces Meredith in Kirkwall and so he is one of the Knight Commanders and would be confronted with Lamberts decision to go rogue. He could decide against it and choose to stay at Justinias side, which happens to be in Orlais .... voila.

We could also not meet him in Orlais at all and he his holed up somewhere with a few other Templars or we meet him as a drunk in a Tavern, ala Alistair; being betrayed by both sides and saying "Screw all of you!"

I'm sure there will be at least two groups of Templars, the red ones and the ones that do not go rogue and stay with the Chantry. Could he also end up being a psychotic Mage hunter and your Inquisitor will have to chop his head off, sure he could.  

Cullen is not perfect, he has his faults, but this also makes him human and relatable. He has seen the worst of both sides of Mages and Templars, in my opinion he would have a pretty good insight and like some other posters have written, it would be nice to get a Templar in the party for once (and no Alistair doesn't count)

Or like many believe he'll just be a important NPC ala Morrigan and take on some advisory role .. We will see!

[Magdalena11]

Starsyn wrote...

Orian: I think you're asking people to describe Cullen's personality other than his PTSD.

Not why players may or may not like him.

@Chanda - nice gif

OT, yes, lots of players who prefer mages like Cullen because his origin story is very romantic.  Part of the appeal for some players might be PTSD.  Nursing the wounded puppy back to health.  I thought it was pretty cool how as traumatized he's been and as much reason as he has personally to be afraid of mages, he won't kill pro-mage, mage Hawke because that's not in the templar's authority.

Modifié par Magdalena11, 29 janvier 2014 - 07:43 .

[Bail_Darilar]

I think he's as valid as anyone else you met in the previous games, even more so since they've established him to an extent of someone with mixed feelings towards mages who becomes disillusioned by the way the circle runs and eventually starts looking for another calling.

[KaiserShep]

spinachdiaper wrote...

I think Cullen is a Horse's Arse, nope I don't like him at all, then again that is the same feeling i had towards DA2's squad, Heck they even turned the pre-existing characters that were interesting into annoying jerks in DA2, I did like Merrill though

I have to say, at least DA2 had a better dwarf. I got Oghren's approval up because I felt charitable and like to get the maximum points for everything, but I was just a tad disappointed that he didn't die during the joining in Awakenings instead of Mhairi. Varric, Isabela and Merrill were definitely my favorite of the lot. Anders was such a sad sack, and I was glad that Isabela and Varric constantly pestered him about it in banter. Fenris was actually better than his first impression let on. Aveline, eh. She's definitely no Alistair, but Isabela was right when she said she's a woman-shaped battering ram. Nice to have at least one person on the team that's immune to being stunned.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 29 janvier 2014 - 07:53 .

[Maria Caliban]

Orian Tabris wrote...

Sorry, I meant explain what his personality is, without bias. Not what it is they like about him, without bias.

Understood.

I found DA 2 Cullen to be polite and dutiful. He was both willing to use lethal force when he thought a mage was dangerous, but also willing to compromise and listen to an alternative viewpoint.

He was extremely moderate. For most games, he'd have been boring, but in DA II, he and Sir Thrask were a nice change from evil blood mages, unreasonable templars, and ruthless qunari.

Actually, if Sir Thrask had survived, I'd see him as being far superior to Cullen.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 29 janvier 2014 - 07:55 .

[caradoc2000]

Personally, I'd rather have Emile de Launcet as a companion rather than Cullen.

[KaiserShep]

caradoc2000 wrote...

Personally, I'd rather have Emile de Launcet as a companion rather than Cullen.

His whiny mother needs to make a cameo if that were to happen.

[Lotion Soronarr]

To anyone reading this:

Any character you like is horrible, and I will murderknife him. DEVs including them do so only because they are stupid and pander to stupid fans.

Any character I like is great and DEEP.

SO STOP LIKING WHOMEVER YOU LIKE AND START LIKING WHOM I LIKE!!!!!

[WidePaul]

I don't think Cullen should be a companion, Varric returning as companion is enough for me, keep the others new. I wouldn't mind if Cullen turned up as an NPC though and we could get more info on the situation and what he's been up to since the events in Kirkwall. I'd like it if his appearance was something along the lines of our group enters an area and comes across 2 groups of Templars fighting, one group still loyal to the Chantry, led by Cullen, slowly being taken out by a superior force of red Templars and our timely intervention turns the tide of battle in the loyal Templars' favour. Cullen then could be a temporary ally, joining up with us to take out the red Templars' base in the area and we take it for our own. Ok, wow. went a bit over the top there maybe anyway, basically I think he could be brought into the game in such a way that it adds to the story and not just as "fan service", oh and I'm not a fanboy, I don't have strong feelings for him one way or the other, but I've seen potential and growth in his character over the previous games IMO, and it would be nice if we could see that expanded upon some more in inquisition.

[Mistress9Nine]

acid_rain82 wrote...

If Cullen returns, I want to use the murder knife on him.

If murder knife is slang for manparts, I agree!

[Laughing_Man]

Hmm...
I don't really have much *against* him (at least not more than against any other typical Templar), but I would prefer someone new and more interesting.

I mean, some may find the idea of such a character romanticaly appealing, but aside from that I doubt that anything about him is really interesting.