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[cap and gown]

Luke Estes wrote...

Thank's for all of Your Help, wish Me Luck with the "Suicide Mission" LOL

Those of us about to die salute you.

[Excella Gionne]

RedCaesar97 wrote...

johnnythao89 wrote...

After the crew gets captured, you cannot enter any HUB or it'll result in the death of half off your Normandy SR-2 crew. The only HUB you can enter is the Shadow Broker base which seems to be the only base you can enter and not affect anything else.

Incorrect. I have travelled to all hubs and still had all the crew survive. You just need to not get any Mission Complete screen and you will be fine.

Really, I've entered other HUBs before the entering the Omega 4 Relay, and that resulted in "wasting time", and so, half of the captrued crew were killed. 

[KrrKs]

johnnythao89 wrote...

RedCaesar97 wrote...

johnnythao89 wrote...

After the crew gets captured, you cannot enter any HUB or it'll result in the death of half off your Normandy SR-2 crew. The only HUB you can enter is the Shadow Broker base which seems to be the only base you can enter and not affect anything else.

Incorrect. I have travelled to all hubs and still had all the crew survive. You just need to not get any Mission Complete screen and you will be fine.

Really, I've entered other HUBs before the entering the Omega 4 Relay, and that resulted in "wasting time", and so, half of the captrued crew were killed. 

Then that wasn't because of visiting the hubs. I've visited all hub worlds for 'shopping sprees' after the kidnapping (severeral times) and never had killed crew because of that. You can even do the quest given to you by this one salarian on Omega in its entirety after the kidnapping and no face consequences.

What can happen is that certain 'chained' DLC Missions like Overloard and maybe Lair of the Shadow Broker interfere with the Timer though.
I know that overloard can screw it up -e.g.: the kidnapping should have happened after the first DLC mission (timer start here) but the Bit when it actually happened was after the complete DLC
(+3 mission complete screens later, when I first came back to the Normandy again).
So my Crew was already dead when the kidnapping occured.

[Luke Estes]

Ok, so I'm picking Who to do What in the "Suicide Mission" and I was wondering Who usually work's out the Best. I've completed all of the Squad LM's (Everybody's Loyal) and I've Upgraded all of the Normandy, and the Following is Who I planned to do What...

Vent's: Tali
2nd. Fire-Team: Garrus (Both Time's)
Escort for The Crew: Mordin
Biotic: Jack
Final Part Team: Miranda & Tali

[capn233]

It should only be mission complete screens that advance the timer for the crew abduction. The total time available dependent somewhat on how many crew members you have and how many loyalty missions have been made available.

Some non-mission timers also work on real time calendar dates, like the Shadow Broker delivery terminal, but this should not apply to the crew abduction timer or any other mission specific plot timers.

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For the Suicide Mission, I don't think there is one combination that is best. As long as qualified / loyal people are picked for the right jobs and you leave enough combat strength to hold the door, it all works out.

What you posted is similar to what I usually do though. I always use Garrus for fire team leader, Vent it depends on who I want in the first squad with me (I take Legion frequently so he is not in the Vents), escort I usually pick Mordin (rp due to his time in the Clinic on Omega), and for the Biotic I usually always take Samara. Final squad, usually just squad members I like.

[Excella Gionne]

Grunt would be a poor choice to choose as one of the final squad mates you choose to go and fight with you after departing from the team. As cool and tempting it may be to take him, it's not advised since there will be a higher chance of a weaker character dying. Mostly Tali. Picking Grunt and Garrus will most likely all of the time kill off a weaker character or two.

[mass effectman]

johnnythao89 wrote...

He will survive it regardless of either choices, but the choice you make here, you must consider Tali's loyalty mission as well. If the combination is not correct, you cannot achieve peace between Geth and Quarians regardless if both are loyal and alive for Mass Effect 3.

Outcomes:

1. Destroy Geth Heretics and have Tali exiled(Admirals cannot know of Tali's father's experiments, so you must lie). Conflict between Legion and Tali must be resolved, and both must survive the Suicide Mission.

2. Rewrite Geth Heretics and convinced Admirals that Tali is not guilty(Cannot present Tali's father's experiments). Conflict between Legion and Tali must resolved, and both must survive the Suicide Mission.

3+. You CANNOT mix these around, it must go in this order or else peace is not possible.

i made tali innocent before i got legion loyal. After i had the conflict bewteen tali and him, i used paragon and got them to like each other. will that affect anything in ME3 for me?

[themikefest]

This is what it says in the Colector's Edition Guide Book (page 263)

Save Tali from exile in ME2.(+2 points) Now I know if you turn over the evidence to the Admirals, Tali will be found innocent, but will not be loyal

Destroy the heretic geth in "A House Divided" during Legion's loyalty mission(+2 points)

Get peace between Tali and Legion in ME2(+1 point) I would suggest making a save before doing this in case you pick the wrong dialogue

Complete the Geth Fighter Squadron mission

Complete "Rannoch Admiral Koris" (+1 point)

Save Admiral Koris(+1 point)

You have to have at least 5 points to acheive peace and have at least 4 bars filled for your reputation..

[Excella Gionne]

mass effectman wrote...

johnnythao89 wrote...

He will survive it regardless of either choices, but the choice you make here, you must consider Tali's loyalty mission as well. If the combination is not correct, you cannot achieve peace between Geth and Quarians regardless if both are loyal and alive for Mass Effect 3.

Outcomes:

1. Destroy Geth Heretics and have Tali exiled(Admirals cannot know of Tali's father's experiments, so you must lie). Conflict between Legion and Tali must be resolved, and both must survive the Suicide Mission.

2. Rewrite Geth Heretics and convinced Admirals that Tali is not guilty(Cannot present Tali's father's experiments). Conflict between Legion and Tali must resolved, and both must survive the Suicide Mission.

3+. You CANNOT mix these around, it must go in this order or else peace is not possible.

i made tali innocent before i got legion loyal. After i had the conflict bewteen tali and him, i used paragon and got them to like each other. will that affect anything in ME3 for me?

Loyalt missions can be done in any order, it's just what happens in them that counts. The conflict needs te be resolved with either charm or intimidation, and clearly, you chose charm, and so, you resolved their conflict. It doesn't matter if you chose either charm or intimidation, as long as it was resolved. If you had to lose one loyalty but gain it back later, it doesn't count. 

If you did Tali's first, make sure that you choose what corresponds to Legion's mission as I mentioned in that post of mine. If you persuaded or rallied the crowd to prove Tali's innocence gaining her loyalty, but you destroyed the heretics, peace will not be possible. Same goes for the opposite version of this.

In ME3, you have to save Admiral Korris with charm or persuasion, and you have to shutdown geth servers(Both of them are Rannoch missions). Once you do that, make sure you have 4 bars of reputation or more.

[BurningBlood]

Vent's: Tali
2nd. Fire-Team: Garrus (Both Time's)
Escort for The Crew: Mordin
Biotic: Jack
Final Part Team: Miranda & Tali

That should work out just fine.

Grunt would be a poor choice to choose as one of the final squad mates you choose to go and fight with you after departing from the team. As cool and tempting it may be to take him, it's not advised since there will be a higher chance of a weaker character dying. Mostly Tali. Picking Grunt and Garrus will most likely all of the time kill off a weaker character or two.

Grunt, Garrus and Zaeed are are equally strong at holding the line (a bit ironic considering how squishy Garrus is in ME3), and I know I've taken Garrus with me to the final battle and had everyone survive, so as long as everyone is loyal Grunt could be taken along without any of the weaker characters dying. Probably not a good idea to bring two of those three, though, as you say.

Modifié par BurningBlood, 06 février 2014 - 12:52 .

[themikefest]

Yesterday I acheived peace between the Quarians and Geth.

In ME2 I turned over the evidence to Admirals which led to not having Tali loyal, but she was found innocent of all charges.

I destroyed the heretics gaining Legion's loyalty.

I never got the opportunity to get peace between Legion and Tali.becasue she wasn't loyal.

In ME3 I saved Koris, did the Geth consenus mission.

After the reaper was destroyed, I chose let the Geth die option(I'm playing as a renegade) than told Legion to upload the code(bottom left dialogue) which led to some cool dialogue from femshep and peace was obtained.

[Chocolina]

If you did Tali's first, make sure that you choose what corresponds to Legion's mission as I mentioned in that post of mine. If you persuaded or rallied the crowd to prove Tali's innocence gaining her loyalty, but you destroyed the heretics, peace will not be possible. Same goes for the opposite version of this.

 

Sorry for bumping, but I'm currently playing me2 as a paragon (again). I usually rewrite the heretics, but this time I had planned on destroying them (for a lot of reasons, mostly rp). But I have already completed Tali's loyalty mission, where I used the charm option to resolve the situation. What you are saying is, I need to rewrite them? I'm sorry, I have googled like crazy and not found anything to support this. It doesn't really make any sence why I shouldn't be able to do it this way, since I then would have 7 out of 7 points. Do you have first hand experience of this not working, or has someone else confirmed this?

 

Edit: I have asked around about this, and this does not seem to be true.

 

http://www.gamefaqs....ct-2/69158904#3

 

Edit 2: Hey, it's me again. I just finished Rannoch, and I managed to make peace (charm at trial/destroy heretics). Just wanted to update to avoid confusion.