I've seen a lot of comments about not liking to play w/ players who use Flamer and I'm not sure I understand why. It seems to be a legit power, I mean, Acolyte + Flamer is a quickfast way to deal w/ bosses for all factions. Is it hated on by snipers? I could see it interfering w/ their scopes I guess. Otherwise...what am I missing?
Why the Flamer hate?
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Teh_Ocelot
, janv. 29 2014 01:57
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 01:58
NuclearTech76
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Cause mah ****ing eyes!!!!!!!!!!
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:01
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Can't see a damn thing. Unless I'm using it. Then I still don't see, but I don't care cause it's always just dead bodies in front of me when the flame goes off.
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:01
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Because 99% of Flamer users will use you as a meatshield when they hit the button, meaning you won't be able to see chit regardless of what you do. Also, the activation/deactivation SFX always play at max volume regardless of how far away you are from them.
Oh, and it overrides Biotic explosions.
2/3 of the major problems fit under "Don't hate the game, hate the player", but it's still seriously annoying.
inb4megabreast
Oh, and it overrides Biotic explosions.
2/3 of the major problems fit under "Don't hate the game, hate the player", but it's still seriously annoying.
inb4megabreast
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:04
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it's one of the easiest powers to be used irresponsibly by players.
mostly by standing directly behind a teammate and spamming flamer, thus blinding the player in front of you.
there are those who'd debate it's ease of use/high damage output as "easy mode" as well.
I've been using it myself more, tbh. trying to give it a chance.
mostly by standing directly behind a teammate and spamming flamer, thus blinding the player in front of you.
there are those who'd debate it's ease of use/high damage output as "easy mode" as well.
I've been using it myself more, tbh. trying to give it a chance.
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:06
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Yes, mah ears as well.FatherOfPearl wrote...
Because 99% of Flamer users will use you as a meatshield when they hit the button, meaning you won't be able to see chit regardless of what you do. Also, the activation/deactivation SFX always play at max volume regardless of how far away you are from them.
Oh, and it overrides Biotic explosions.
2/3 of the major problems fit under "Don't hate the game, hate the player", but it's still seriously annoying.
inb4megabreast
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:08
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I never have the problems that other people seem to.
If a PuG is good enough to actually be at the spawn at the same time, they usually know how to use Flamer. If they're not... then I generally won't see much flame action, since they'll be lagging behind.
I typically ignore the silly anti-flamer comments and do my thing. If a flamer user is proving to be a problem... I move slightly. Then it's not a problem. Seems easy enough.
If a PuG is good enough to actually be at the spawn at the same time, they usually know how to use Flamer. If they're not... then I generally won't see much flame action, since they'll be lagging behind.
I typically ignore the silly anti-flamer comments and do my thing. If a flamer user is proving to be a problem... I move slightly. Then it's not a problem. Seems easy enough.
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:09
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Just use proper etiquette and there is no problem with the power.
-Stand at angles so not to interfere with other's view
-Don't Flamer someone as they're getting up because they can't see where to go when they do get up
-Do Flamer Banshee's when a teammate is being picked up... they'll thank you.
There's more but just use common sense and you'll be fine.
-Stand at angles so not to interfere with other's view
-Don't Flamer someone as they're getting up because they can't see where to go when they do get up
-Do Flamer Banshee's when a teammate is being picked up... they'll thank you.
There's more but just use common sense and you'll be fine.
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:09
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The real problem is in general gameplay habbits found in most pugs.
If I see a flamer frying a group or a choke point, I won't stand beside him and shoot blindly, but rather flank or cover his six while the fire's burning. I also do the same if I am the flamer guy. Ofc some situations can't be avoided, like certain hacks, ambushes...
If I see a flamer frying a group or a choke point, I won't stand beside him and shoot blindly, but rather flank or cover his six while the fire's burning. I also do the same if I am the flamer guy. Ofc some situations can't be avoided, like certain hacks, ambushes...
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:16
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@jere. Don't have a problem with you using it. But I can't count the time that I've been blinded and shield gated or killed by it. No matter where they stand they blind you, make it impossible to see enemies. It's less a problem on Vorcha Sent since you can flash it for FE. on Trooper its just "press a button to annoy your teammate".
Annoying as hell.
Annoying as hell.
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:18
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Get a better TV, but seriously its a scoreboard issue mainly
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:21
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I hate more recon mine spammers.
Said that, I often find flamer players annoying, as most of them have the bad habit of keeping flamer active for its entire duration regardless of the situation, leading to a lot of deaths in the middle of large open maps (hydra, condor, london...)
Said that, I often find flamer players annoying, as most of them have the bad habit of keeping flamer active for its entire duration regardless of the situation, leading to a lot of deaths in the middle of large open maps (hydra, condor, london...)
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:22
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Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...
I never have the problems that other people seem to.
If a PuG is good enough to actually be at the spawn at the same time, they usually know how to use Flamer. If they're not... then I generally won't see much flame action, since they'll be lagging behind.
I typically ignore the silly anti-flamer comments and do my thing. If a flamer user is proving to be a problem... I move slightly. Then it's not a problem. Seems easy enough.
Totally with you on this. Can't remember the last time I got annoyed by a flamer user.
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:23
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Ok, so I'll give the sound effect is annoying, it annoys me even when I'm the one using it, and it is rather view-impairing, but I don't use it in a crowd of teammates.I usually wait until the *insert armored enemy here* are bunched up toward my teammates and then flank, so I'm hitting the enemies in the back instead of my teammates. But still, even given all that, I can't see why anyone would hate so much on something that shreds armor like that. I mean, it's a brutal attack.
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:23
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FuriousFelicia wrote...
The real problem is in general gameplay habbits found in most pugs.
If I see a flamer frying a group or a choke point, I won't stand beside him and shoot blindly, but rather flank or cover his six while the fire's burning. I also do the same if I am the flamer guy. Ofc some situations can't be avoided, like certain hacks, ambushes...
+1
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:24
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No idea op. Same goes for recon mine and snap freeze haters. Don't understand.
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:24
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It´s easy to use power with high damage output, which seems to provoke certain people. Others can´t stand its visual effects.
It´s also very trendy here on BSN since bad-mouthing EDI has gotten old.
Although I never had any problems with flamer users, outside of one instance where I had three flamers to shoot through with sniper rifle. But that was still fun
It´s also very trendy here on BSN since bad-mouthing EDI has gotten old.
Although I never had any problems with flamer users, outside of one instance where I had three flamers to shoot through with sniper rifle. But that was still fun
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:25
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People could just flame down, but no, they want to blind you and do that its full duration. Also flamer has a DoT duration after flaming, so you don't even need to just spam flamer, use your gun more.
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:26
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Because nobody likes the sound of a cheetah.
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:26
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FatherOfPearl wrote...
Because 99% of Flamer users will use you as a meatshield when they hit the button, meaning you won't be able to see chit regardless of what you do. Also, the activation/deactivation SFX always play at max volume regardless of how far away you are from them.
Oh, and it overrides Biotic explosions.
2/3 of the major problems fit under "Don't hate the game, hate the player", but it's still seriously annoying.
inb4megabreast
Right, I get it's vision-impairing and the sfx are annoying. I did not know it overrides biotic explosions, but then I usually run a Fury when there are biotics in the lobby with me, I tend to run Geth Trooper when it's 2 soldiers and an Infiltrator or something like that, where I feel like there won't be a lot of armor-shredding powers being thrown around.
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:29
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Nate_Assassin wrote...
Because nobody likes the sound of a cheetah.
+1 lol
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:30
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Aetika wrote...
It´s easy to use power with high damage output, which seems to provoke certain people. Others can´t stand its visual effects.
It´s also very trendy here on BSN since bad-mouthing EDI has gotten old.
Although I never had any problems with flamer users, outside of one instance where I had three flamers to shoot through with sniper rifle. But that was still fun
Forgive me, I'm still somewhat new to the ME3 party, but....why do people hate on EDI? AIU is a legit character...or is that why they hate on her, b/c it's a legit play?
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:37
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Teh_Ocel0t wrote...
Aetika wrote...
It´s easy to use power with high damage output, which seems to provoke certain people. Others can´t stand its visual effects.
It´s also very trendy here on BSN since bad-mouthing EDI has gotten old.
Although I never had any problems with flamer users, outside of one instance where I had three flamers to shoot through with sniper rifle. But that was still fun
Forgive me, I'm still somewhat new to the ME3 party, but....why do people hate on EDI? AIU is a legit character...or is that why they hate on her, b/c it's a legit play?
more or less
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:37
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Deerber wrote...
Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...
I never have the problems that other people seem to.
If a PuG is good enough to actually be at the spawn at the same time, they usually know how to use Flamer. If they're not... then I generally won't see much flame action, since they'll be lagging behind.
I typically ignore the silly anti-flamer comments and do my thing. If a flamer user is proving to be a problem... I move slightly. Then it's not a problem. Seems easy enough.
Totally with you on this. Can't remember the last time I got annoyed by a flamer user.
I can't remember the last time you played this game... Get your computer fixed so we can get back to business!
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Posté 29 janvier 2014 - 02:39
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Teh_Ocel0t wrote...
Forgive me, I'm still somewhat new to the ME3 party, but....why do people hate on EDI? AIU is a legit character...or is that why they hate on her, b/c it's a legit play?
Because she and TGI are an official EZ mode. High damage output with ridiculous survivability... seems legit.
Both allow poor players to play higher difficulties and make an illusion that they are gold-plat viable players.
Even worse, both kits consume grenades at ridiculous speed, I'm so happy when my clusternades, that can be turned into a massive AOE damage, are eated by some scrub so he can stay in the open and be shot.
